Remember, and just as an example, the US and allies were not terrain-prepared for Indonesian jungles or Afghanistan. Maybe now, but not at that time.
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I was talking about the Afghan soldiers that we trained for 20 years. The army collapsed in just 11 days.
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El Salvador's government dealt with its violence problem very effectively... Haiti's government needs to take it as a pattern.Give Peace a Chance in Haiti
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Violence should be dealt with by force... And those who perpetrate violence must be dealt with according to related laws.
A violent person thinks they have the right to be violent, and that negates their value in a social-development-focused government.
In other words..."We have no idea why we are here and I'm not interested in taking a bullet even if I have no work back home and my family is starving". Something like that?
All I’ve heard from media sources so far, is the joint intervention forces have secured the port and airport areas. No mention of any resistance from the gangs. I see the establishment of law and order in the capitol as a necessary first step to allow the intervention forces to expand their operation into the suburban and rural areas. I’m amazed at how low key, media wise, the intervention has been since the arrival of the Kenyans. If they‘re smart, they will yield to the expertise of the Haitian police and function under their command.
The bravado of the gang leaders like Jimmy BBQ appears to be bluster at this point. Maybe the perceived bad ass reputation of the Kenyans had its desired effect without the need for excessive violence.
Nope... Not in the slightest.
Do you have children, johne?
If so... When your baby's mother first got pregnant, did you have a plan all worked out for your experience as a parent that was to come?
Or how about business... Are you a business person... Have you ever started your own business... Did things always work out as planned?
The recovery of Haiti can take many different ways... But all the acceptable ways require the violence to be subdued and brought under control, and the Kenyan force is a part of this first requirement... As is the emplacement of Haiti's interim presidential council and prime minister.
As the old saying goes... You eat an elephant one bite at a time.
The Kenyan force is an armed personnel force service to the Kenyan government that has chosen to carry out a service that it is being paid to carry out. It is not for the service men/women to question why they are in Haiti, but to do what they are instructed to do... And contrary to your glib take, I'm going to give the grown-ass, well-experienced men and women of the Kenyan force the benefit of the doubt in their being very clear as to what's what with their personal lives/livelihood.
So, no... Absolutely not "...something like that...".
I've seen a couple of articles about them retaking police stations controlled by gangs. Sounds like they are eating an elephant one bite at a time.
Glib? Mi amigo, it was a question and it took you a page to try and state your opinion. Unsuccessfully. Can you post at least one link that indicates they have a detailed agenda? And that the agenda is being followed to some degree.
The $300 million from the US is a "pledge". Your pals in Jamaica pledged chump change. Recent events that are unfolding in the US suggest that you might want to tell Haiti to "eat the elephant" faster bc a little birdie told me things might change regarding funding starting in Jan. 2025.
Glib, in that it sounds sensible, but not an honest take.
And don't get your knickers all twisted by how long I take to state whatever I want to state... Read it, don't read it, it's how I choose to express myself... And if you are having trouble understanding what I have said, then ask me to further explain.
Anyone who properly understands planning will know that plans always leave room for contingencies. Those who are trying to help Haiti, I hope, are clear on the long-term vision/goal — getting the country back on track to becoming a self-sufficient economy/nation. Working back from this vision/goal brings us to the need to end the violence that is taking place, and develop a proper government, both of which have already begun to be addressed.
Can I post a link that indicates they have a detailed agenda that is being followed?
Do a Google search for Kenyan forces in Haiti... You will see they have actually arrived in Haiti... Thus confirming an agenda is being implemented.
Or perhaps you think the Kenyans just woke up one morning and found themselves magically in Haiti.
Simply found themselves there bc some "world leaders" found a 500 million opportunity to enrich themselves. Get real amigo, take off the rose colored glasses and think about (use history as your guide) as to WHO will get those bucks.
BTW please stop directing the way in which i read, interpet, understand your posts. I know exactly where your coming from.
Have a blessed day.
I will receive your "...Have a blessed day...", as, in the Lord it is my goal every day.
Yet, if one properly understands this matter you would know that it's not about "...Get real amigo...", but about the will that is the source of the "...blessed day..." that all things depend on and are out of.
Being clear on this... I have no "...rose colored glasses..." in looking at this or any other matter... To be blessed is to see out of blessed eyes.
Life isn't about who gets the bucks... Life is about the will of the One directing where the bucks go.
And be clear... If I think someone is misrepresenting what I have said, I will endeavor to correct them.
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