What is the actual location for the new Ritz Carlton Cabarete?

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The only thing that will spike tourism in Cab is when Elvis gets out of jail
 

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In looking at the map it looks longer. Confused...The developers access point and road improvement had to have been dictated by local people and governing bodies and politicians for "all kinds of reasons" like who owns land along the road.

Perhaps a new "short cut" will be put in. Time will tell.
 

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Is Villa Tropicale and Oasis del Sol dead in the water? Are these properties abandoned? (See Google Map pic below)

I drove into the "Miracle Mile" from this Western side past Villa Tropicale and the caliche road is littered with fairly deep potholes. I was in a large truck with AWD.

I pulled up into one of the dunes side shoots and looked at the beach.

No work is being done on this road for sure.
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I'm pretty sure Oasis del Sol is still at least partially occupied.

There's no work being done on that road. It appears to be done on the road coming in from the main highway.
 

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You are right. Comparing a potential Ritz to these monolithic past years failed AI's is meaningless.

Any developer has to look around the neighboring area and think huh...what happened here. Scary. Buyers of a Ritz unit will most likely think the same thing......

People could either buy or just use Ritz Carlton Reserve units like a hotel. Only time will tell how it all turns out.

Perhaps a new and more direct access road will be completed which avoids the "night of the living dead" location one must pass through now to reach La Boca.

Save up your pennies now to get one, they might be around the price of this on in PR:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...PR_00646_M98251-75403?ex=PR2869277436&view=qv


Is it time yet to start a new thread on the Marriott W that was announced for Cabarete Beach itself?
 

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The only thing that will spike tourism in Cab is when Elvis gets out of jail

I don't think many tourists to Cabarete knew about Elvis' bar in Cabarete when it was there. Hardly a major contributor to tourist numbers.
 

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I don't think many tourists to Cabarete knew about Elvis' bar in Cabarete when it was there. Hardly a major contributor to tourist numbers.

well I guess if you consider hundreds of chicas and their clients a drop in the bucket. Gentleman came from all over the north coast to his old place in Cab
 

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well I guess if you consider hundreds of chicas and their clients a drop in the bucket. Gentleman came from all over the north coast to his old place in Cab

Hundreds are indeed a drop in the bucket when you consider the DR gets tourists in the several millions each year. I have been in Cabarete for 16 years and never heard of Elvis, unless it was the place down the road from Janet's that got told to vacate, or else well before the recent discussions and subsequent changes in Sosua.
 

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Hundreds are indeed a drop in the bucket when you consider the DR gets tourists in the several millions each year. I have been in Cabarete for 16 years and never heard of Elvis, unless it was the place down the road from Janet's that got told to vacate, or else well before the recent discussions and subsequent changes in Sosua.

Thats the place! Cab never got "millions" of tourists. Elvis employed many many people. Guess thats what landed him in jail.
 

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I don't think many tourists to Cabarete knew about Elvis' bar in Cabarete when it was there. Hardly a major contributor to tourist numbers.

I agree. It was a rather inconspicuous little bar down the side street beside Janet's. Between chairs at the bar and tables, 20 people would be a crowd. Elvis' biggest clients were owners and renters at Valero.
 

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I agree. It was a rather inconspicuous little bar down the side street beside Janet's. Between chairs at the bar and tables, 20 people would be a crowd. Elvis' biggest clients were owners and renters at Valero.

you sir are clearly unfamiliar with Elvis's operation. To the rear of his bar were living quarters for upwards of 30 chicas. On busy weekends he would rent many hotel rooms for the chicas from Santiago and Santo Domingo. There is probably 10 hotels within walking distance of his bar and the gentleman would stay there especially for its proximity to Elvis's bar. He got so big he was told to move to Sosua. Guess he got too too big and it landed him in jail
 

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Thats the place! Cab never got "millions" of tourists. Elvis employed many many people. Guess thats what landed him in jail.

Promoting prostitution is what would have landed him in jail.

Cabarete used to get a LOT of tourists. Not so much any more. Little of that has to do with how many Elvis had down that side road, but some like to exaggerate the importance of such places as they impact tourist areas.

Now back to the Ritz Carlton Reserve and what is going on at La Boca. Condos like those sell in the millions of dollars. Who is going to buy them here? Sir Richard might. He also likes to kite surf.
 

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you sir are clearly unfamiliar with Elvis's operation. To the rear of his bar were living quarters for upwards of 30 chicas. On busy weekends he would rent many hotel rooms for the chicas from Santiago and Santo Domingo. There is probably 10 hotels within walking distance of his bar and the gentleman would stay there especially for its proximity to Elvis's bar. He got so big he was told to move to Sosua. Guess he got too too big and it landed him in jail

Au contraire mon frere. I've personally met Elvis and several friends of mine are his clients. Yes, there was a small apartment building behind his bar, but that was for chicas only and there were up to 4 of them in a room when full. That's directly from some of the girls that "worked" for him.

Not all his clients were in Valero, that's for sure, but 10 hotels in Cabarete within walking distance(?) - not 10 that you'd want to stay in anyway, and Elvis' girls were not cheap. I doubt many of his clients stayed in any of the cheapo hotels. Most of his clients were not like the typical monger in Sosua.
 

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Some people forget why they came to the North Coast. For many it was because it is affordable. I personally would like new expensive development and such for my own personal benefit, but if that happens, prices, traffic, waiting in lines and snobby rich people will be our experience. Meanwhile the everyday annoyances of living here are unlikely to go away. Imho... lol
 

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The DR (and many other countries) have a very large assortment of luxury villas for rent for weddings, vacations, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if places like this new Ritz are trying to go after the demographic that tend to utilize those luxury villas.

The Ritz Carlton Reserve seems to be more super high end condo than villa.
 

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Some people forget why they came to the North Coast. For many it was because it is affordable. I personally would like new expensive development and such for my own personal benefit, but if that happens, prices, traffic, waiting in lines and snobby rich people will be our experience. Meanwhile the everyday annoyances of living here are unlikely to go away. Imho... lol

I have not forgotten why I came here. I have also not forgotten that things change over time and that nothing is certain but change. Far fewer tourists are coming than before and that is a huge change. I don't expect that level of tourism to return. Not ever.

A few hundred super rich tourists are not going to make the lines at Janet's (or Playero, or Super Pola) significantly longer.
 

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So, is it a condo and not a hotel?

From what I can see Ritz Carlton Reserve rooms can be sold at condos. Or rented out per night.

Here is one in Puerto Rico for sale for $6.5 Million US.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...PR_00646_M98251-75403?ex=PR2869277436&view=qv

Here is one you can rent per night for $1,300 US in Cabo, Mexico:

https://www.booking.com/hotel/mx/za...=0&req_adults=2&hp_refreshed_with_new_dates=1

So, you can own or use them as a hotel. Time will tell how sales versus rentals go in Cabarete.
 

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Au contraire mon frere. I've personally met Elvis and several friends of mine are his clients. Yes, there was a small apartment building behind his bar, but that was for chicas only and there were up to 4 of them in a room when full. That's directly from some of the girls that "worked" for him.

Not all his clients were in Valero, that's for sure, but 10 hotels in Cabarete within walking distance(?) - not 10 that you'd want to stay in anyway, and Elvis' girls were not cheap. I doubt many of his clients stayed in any of the cheapo hotels. Most of his clients were not like the typical monger in Sosua.

ok, sounds like you agree with me a little. Those gentleman did spend a considerable amount in the Cab area and dined at the nicer restaurants. They did not support the whole Cab economy certainly like a Sosua but their business will be missed. During his larger events the the 'action" spilled out into the street. As far as nice places to stay near Elvis's, just to the east are some of the nicest places to stay in Cab., and like all places in Cab and Sosua they are chica friendly.