What status, documentation , ID, or other, allows a "Haitian" to reside in the DR

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Accents are hard to lose. I left NY in 1980, but I still sound like one. My kids were born in southern NJ, I passed on some pronunciations and telltale words to them, especially my daughter. Coffee, water, chocolate. Dropped r’s. My son still puts out the garbage, which amuses his wife, because they only have trash down here.

Mr AE will never lose his accent, he’s been in USA 47 years. I will never sound like a Dominican.
Me either. No matter how hard I try, I just can't mimic the Dominican accent. This is very common. There are actually special courses(I don't think there are any in the DR but in the US to speak unaccented English) for non-native speakers to help them lose their accent.
 

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yea,sure, like this is such a huge problem. People getting rounded up with a Dominican I.D The odds are better winning the lottery. I have seen the immigration transport vehicles. They are filled with Haitians! There is no incentive for the P.D to arrest an older woman with a cedula.
I believe it was you who said I was lying when I mentioned my Haitian looking friend with a Dominican cedula before. You should get to know what you are talking about before calling people liars. The Immigration trucks you see are full of people who look Haitian. When you see them, you have no idea whether they are actual Haitians or people who look like Haitians. They just arrest people who look likely suspects and then let them go later when they have verified the documentation and the incentive is that even then they ask for a propina in most cases.

Here is a copy of my friend's cedula so that you can stop accusing me of lying:
Kenia cedula.jpg
 

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I believe it was you who said I was lying when I mentioned my Haitian looking friend with a Dominican cedula before. You should get to know what you are talking about before calling people liars. The Immigration trucks you see are full of people who look Haitian. When you see them, you have no idea whether they are actual Haitians or people who look like Haitians. They just arrest people who look likely suspects and then let them go later when they have verified the documentation and the incentive is that even then they ask for a propina in most cases.

Here is a copy of my friend's cedula so that you can stop accusing me of lying:View attachment 8337
You acknowledged that she is of Haitian heritage, did you not.
 

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Very pretty girl, but she does look Haitian to me. There are some noticeable general and somewhat common physical differences though. Take the chicas on PC for example. Most of the Haitian girls are pretty slender whereas the Dominican ones kind of remind me of migrating whales.
 
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As I have said before, a friend of mine has been arrested more than once for looking Haitian, despite being Dominican with a valid cedula and speaking Dominican Spanish. She is of Haitian descent, but far enough back that she is completely legal. After spending some time in a cell, the police boss comes and checks her cedula and she is released - after paying a propina (for no good reason). She has never been deported but spending any time in a police cell is a horrible experience.

I have been accused of lying when I mentioned this before, but I know it is absolutely true.
I know a woman in the same situation,I posted this when you last posted it,Born in the DR,has a Dominican cedula that I have held in my hand,doesn't know a single word of creole and has never been to Haiti but she is black as the ace of spades. Has spent several nights in jail in Sosua and has paid bribes to be released,I paid it once,directly to the chief a$$hole in charge.
 
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Very pretty girl, but she does look Haitian to me. There are some noticeable general and somewhat common physical differences though. Take the chicas on PC for example. Most of the Haitian girls are pretty slender whereas the Dominican ones kind of remind me of migrating whales.
Beauty is an inside job!
 

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There you go. I did except Dominicans of Haitian ancestry because many will obviously look at least somewhat Haitian,. It's pathetic that the police don't have a way to check a valid cedula with an app on their smartphones.

Again, if you know anything about learning a new language, the accent is always the hardest thing to lose. I spoke Spanish when I came here. I've been here for 17 years. I still speak Spanish with an American accent. Your friend's Spanish may be somewhat fluent and sound good to you, but a Dominican will hear the Creole accent and will know.

I lived in Miami for a long time. There were many 2nd and even 3rd generation Cubans that went to school and grew up in Miami and were 100% fluent in English, but they still had a slight Spanish accent. The accent is very hard to lose.
They may be picked up on suspicion of being an illegal Haitian but they aren't held in jail on suspicion of being an illegal Haitian,they are held in order to extract money from them.
 

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A person's heritage is NO reason to hold a person that is a Dominican citizen with proper ID,period. But you know that,you just hate Haitians.
I do not see at all where Bob has ever indicated he hates Haitians, so that statement is very unjust. I will add that while she has papers, etc.,.having Haitian heritage may be the reason she continues to have this issue. Not saying it is fair, but it could be a reason. My in-laws experienced this several times with their former housekeeper. She was legal and had her papers but continued to be stopped.
 
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A person's heritage is NO reason to hold a person that is a Dominican citizen with proper ID,period. But you know that,you just hate Haitians.
You must have taken your "woke is me pill" today. No, I don't hate Haitians or anyone else for that matter. He was talking about his friend being profiled as a Haitian when she has a cedula (and is Dominican). In the original discussion about his friend being arrested several times and let go later, he mentioned that she was of Haitian descent, thus looking like a Haitian. Put on your thinking cap and engage your synapsis. One of our Haitian clients just got stopped this morning while bring her son to the school. She thankfully has a current work visa and always carries her passport with her.
 

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I know a woman in the same situation,I posted this when you last posted it,Born in the DR,has a Dominican cedula that I have held in my hand,doesn't know a single word of creole and has never been to Haiti but she is black as the ace of spades. Has spent several nights in jail in Sosua and has paid bribes to be released,I paid it once,directly to the chief a$$hole in charge.
It seems like there is more to the story(?). A lot of the chicas, Dominican and Haitian, get picked up and thrown in jail, but they're all usually out the very next day after paying a small "fine".
 

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It seems like there is more to the story(?). A lot of the chicas, Dominican and Haitian, get picked up and thrown in jail, but they're all usually out the very next day after paying a small "fine".
P.S. I'm not in any way suggesting that the woman mentioned was one of the "chicas" I was referring to.
 
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