When will DR open for International travel??????

[Lobo Tropical]

My "fein of surprise" was about Canada not letting some people in until now. Certainly not about the DR. Considering something to be wrong is not the same as being surprised with respect to the DR not letting legal residents back in. I am not surprised by that, but it is unfortunate.

My point was that you are incorrect.
All legal residents which are citizens or permanent residents were and are allowed to enter their country Canada.

In addition the country facilitated repatriation with airlines.
No unfortunate condition existed.
Also the EU repatriated their residents.

Indeed anyone with residency should be allowed into the DR, otherwise what's the point of the much touted Residencia?
Yeh I know, tax revenues and the ability to expel illegal Haitians without retributions of the IMF and other donators to the DR gov.

 

[scot_tosh]

Comparable countries:
The Dominican numbers are still better then those of Panama (23300 cases, but the population only 4 million) but 10 times worse then Cuba (2300 cases, similar population) and more then 20 times worse then Costa Rica (1900, 5 million).

Yeah Costa Rica did a real good job of getting it under control, something i can't say about my country Britain with the highest death rate in the world, 626 per million people, apart from San Marino with 42 deaths in a population of 33,344 making it the highest death rate in the world 1238 people per million( don't know why that happened)

 

[CaribeDigital]

It's a mess there, opening up to soon

Too soon... when it it too soon and when the right time is right?
There are news from Switzerland today, that they will open everything on Monday. But they do it not to win an election nor to please a business lobby. Guess what: they read the stats.
Please look at the graph below. The time to open comes when the horizontal pink bar is small compared to the gray one
(pink: people sick, gray: no more symptoms, black: dead):

 

[keepcoming]

As I have said in other posts, I am a DR citizen. We have been waiting for some type of update on flights.etc… Right now I am looking towards late Sept early Oct coming back. At that this point nothing is clear (government, etc..). IMHO why go from one bad situation (here in USA) to another (DR).

 

[TropicalPaul]

From Europe, the main way to get back in July, if DR opens the airports, seems to be via Madrid with Iberia. Spain is allowing other European countries to enter from 1st July and there's a big enough Dominican population in Spain to justify putting on the service again. If it runs, it will be Saturday and Monday ex Madrid, returning Sunday and Tuesday ex SDQ. The flight has been retimed to depart late afternoon 4.30pm from memory and this means you can connect from other European cities the same day. On the return, lands at 6am in Madrid so again it's an easy connection to other parts of Europe. For example, there is a 10.30am Iberia London Heathrow > Madrid, arriving 1pm, which gives plenty of time to change terminals and pass immigration. The London > Madrid flights have been operating throughout the lockdown, so they look pretty solid.

 

[austriaco]

The airlines will fly anywhere there is demand and there is always demand for SDQ. It's a matter of the Government opening the borders at this point.

Not true. Too many airlines, at least from Europe don't want to fly there. So far Iberia seems to be the best bet. I had hopes for Copa airlines which I have used before connecting via Panama, but does not seem to work out.

Maybe Edelweis from Switzerland wins the price as the only airline from the center of Europe coming after the main carrier Condor ditched RD - Condor I guess bringing up to 30% of the European tourists to DR with its connecting flight serving 10 European countries almost exclusively.

 

[austriaco]

What it has to do with Cuba? The same like all the country's which are tourist destination and are strugeling to find out how it will be posible to open for travel again!
Condor moving the flights to September (yes also Cuba, even acording to you they would open 1. of August) is in my opinion not "giving up on the DR"...
The bigger question anyway would be if Condor still is existing in September after LOT did cancel the takeover....
Just my 2 Pesos...

Well, it is if Condor =AGAIN= goes bankrupt. They did already last September without anyone really noticing as the tickets remain valid - till now and NOW they do not refund those tickets nor give vouchers...I know because I have one of those tickets...Bast****

However if they do this will be very bad for DR tourism as they almost exclusively were bringing the tourists from Central Europe to DR. I would guess on the amount of planes in Punta Cana 30% of the tourists.

 

[austriaco]

With this nasty virus lots of people are asymptomatic, showing no signs of infection, this risks reseeding the virus into the country. Also since the easing of restrictions in the Dominican Republic people seem to be ignoring the social distancing and wearing of masks. I would hate to see the Dominican Republic become the place you do not want to go on holiday because it is the epicentre of Covid19 in the caribbean. It has already gained this reputation and needs to do all it can to reverse this situation.

As far as comparing the case numbers and rate of increase US to DR: For the next 2 month it is very very unlikely DR will be the epicenter. This is not happening over night. The US is far ahead and it should be attractive to go on vacation to DR from the US as the risk in the DR is really lower then in the US. Is almost like vacation from the virus. (Island is using that slogan now...)

 

[austriaco]

Interesting point of view. That US of A infectious disease specialist Dr. Fartsi believes that a second round of this Kung Flu could be expected in October. That may throw severe modifications into person's/nation's planning moving forward.

Same specialist says that the first round is right now very well and alive and growing.

You could say this very discussion will continue till 2021 because before that year earliest there is no justification to open internernational travel between US and anywhere else. The jury is still out on the DR side.

However, I do not believe in any politician doing the logical thing, so they will ignore the facts.

By the way, at that moment most European countries are having the case numbers really under control and very little new cases. But I would not bet too much after all the opening that this is going to continue like that for more then 2 or 3 month.

 

[johne]

As far as comparing the case numbers and rate of increase US to DR: For the next 2 month it is very very unlikely DR will be the epicenter. This is not happening over night. The US is far ahead and it should be attractive to go on vacation to DR from the US as the risk in the DR is really lower then in the US. Is almost like vacation from the virus. (Island is using that slogan now...)

There's always a first time for everything. This is first time I agreed with 100% of your post.

 

[scot_tosh]

As far as comparing the case numbers and rate of increase US to DR: For the next 2 month it is very very unlikely DR will be the epicenter. This is not happening over night. The US is far ahead and it should be attractive to go on vacation to DR from the US as the risk in the DR is really lower then in the US. Is almost like vacation from the virus. (Island is using that slogan now...)

I wasn't comparing the DR to US, and when the DR gets it under control, would the DR want to be importing cases from the US. The international press are reporting that Dominican Republic is the epicentre of Covid19 in the Caribbean, I don't see that changing

 

[windeguy]

My point was that you are incorrect.
All legal residents which are citizens or permanent residents were and are allowed to enter their country Canada.

In addition the country facilitated repatriation with airlines.
No unfortunate condition existed.
Also the EU repatriated their residents.

Indeed anyone with residency should be allowed into the DR, otherwise what's the point of the much touted Residencia?
Yeh I know, tax revenues and the ability to expel illegal Haitians without retributions of the IMF and other donators to the DR gov.

That is good, I am glad about the nice Canadians always doing the right thing. Truly, I am.

 

[windeguy]

The "right time" to reopen? When is that?

Keep in mind the pandemic started when one person had CV-19. Then it spread.

A world wide pandemic caused by an aerial contagion has never been stopped by social distancing.

It could be years before an effective vaccines is developed, if ever.

When again is the "right time" to reopen?

 

[TropicalPaul]

When again is the "right time" to reopen?

I think that if they do not make a decision pretty soon, the answer will be November. This point about airlines being worried about repatriation flights during hurricane season will be a factor for all the long-haul airlines. If a hurricane comes, they have to send empty planes out to bring everyone back, and also cancel other vacations, all adding to costs, and they just don't have spare cash to do this right now. I just dread to think how many hotels, restaurants and support businesses will go under if they don't open until November. Most are hanging on a thread at the moment.

 

[aarhus]

I think that if they do not make a decision pretty soon, the answer will be November. This point about airlines being worried about repatriation flights during hurricane season will be a factor for all the long-haul airlines. If a hurricane comes, they have to send empty planes out to bring everyone back, and also cancel other vacations, all adding to costs, and they just don't have spare cash to do this right now. I just dread to think how many hotels, restaurants and support businesses will go under if they don't open until November. Most are hanging on a thread at the moment.

That was what Ranieri said. Its now or November.

 

[DR Solar]

Some have a very close interest regarding tourism and I understand that. We all want to open and be "normal" but in reality, normal has changed.

What I don't get is that many will not adapt to a different normal? It's not difficult other then your own state of mind demanding pre-virus life. It ain't gonna work for ya.

Pay you employees and support them. Forgive rent not paid to you. Provide support with free PPEs and education.

Really tired of post that are about.."ME..ME...MEEEE".

 

[william webster]

I think that if they do not make a decision pretty soon, the answer will be November. This point about airlines being worried about repatriation flights during hurricane season will be a factor for all the long-haul airlines. If a hurricane comes, they have to send empty planes out to bring everyone back, and also cancel other vacations, all adding to costs, and they just don't have spare cash to do this right now. I just dread to think how many hotels, restaurants and support businesses will go under if they don't open until November. Most are hanging on a thread at the moment.

I don't remember repatriation flights for hurricanes - must have missed that

As for 'getting on with life'

My good friend Sunny Solar has it right..... in his/her post

I am doing my best to return to normalcy while obeying the protocols... as much as possible

 

[CaribeDigital]

Some have a very close interest regarding tourism and I understand that. We all want to open and be "normal" but in reality, normal has changed.

What I don't get is that many will not adapt to a different normal? It's not difficult other then your own state of mind demanding pre-virus life. It ain't gonna work for ya.

Pay you employees and support them. Forgive rent not paid to you. Provide support with free PPEs and education.

Really tired of post that are about.."ME..ME...MEEEE".

I agree. Only a minority of "open now" people are misinformed or they don't like to read the stats.
The majority of them comes with an attitude problem ("ME"). I doubt I could blame them as they are a product of the toxic individualism imposed by the me-culture.

 

[windeguy]

I agree. Only a minority of "open now" people are misinformed or they don't like to read the stats.
The majority of them comes with an attitude problem ("ME"). I doubt I could blame them as they are a product of the toxic individualism imposed by the me-culture.

Do you think that most Dominicans are not interested in reopening today? That there is some minority of Dominicans interested in that?

 

[CaribeDigital]

Do you think that most Dominicans are not interested in reopening today? That there is some minority of Dominicans interested in that?

Apart from the passport office and the election slogans there is really no such thing as Dominicans (nor any other nation).
People are divided into classes and any serious question should specify what class do you mean?
From my limited experience poor people are 50/50 open now/no opinion and the majority of the educated class would prefer the limitations to stay.
I have no contacts to politicians or oligarchs.