When will DR open for International travel??????

[CaribeDigital]

China was successful in controlling this pandemic?
I do have to agree with an earlier opening statement of yours "From my limited experience". It is indeed telling indeed, across several thread lines.

Extremely successful. An exemplary management. Please compare the numbers: https://tmsnrt.rs/3aIRuz7
And if the DR ever receives the vaccine guess where it will come from?

 

[CaribeDigital]

Are you sure about the lack of medical expertise in Cuba? They have helped Haiti many times with docs and nurses.

Sorry, I said "missing here" meaning the DR. Cuba is traditionally exporting medical services to other countries.

 

[Caonabo]

Extremely successful, and an exemplary management on behalf of the nation that created this virus that affects already sick people.
Perhaps you and I can switch this conversation over to one of the other Covid19 thread lines for debate of the particulars, as opposed to deviating from this one geared towards currently unavailable international travel to the RD.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

Which hospitals, and where? Can you specifically cite what you have witnessed with your own eyes.
For the record, most public hospitals within RD are always at "near to capacity" amounts, because they are public hospitals.

Mr AE’s oldest brother had some breathing difficulties two days ago. He was taken to three different hospitals in Santo Domingo, and all three turned him away saying they were full and had no beds available. No testing offered, nothing. He ended up going home.

Were those public or private?.

Private, I didn’t ask which, but I know when my mother-in-law was ill they took her to Clinica Abreu.

 

[Caonabo]

Reading is fundamental. Thank you. Try it some time. Now to you as well......
Which hospitals, and where? Can you specifically cite what you have witnessed with your own eyes?

 

[aarhus]

Some of those last posts belong in other threads. This was info on international travel in and out of the DR. Border still closed. Only citizens can travel in and only ferry flights leave the DR. Will the DR open for visitors in July ?

 

[Caonabo]

Some of those last posts belong in other threads. This was info on international travel in and out of the DR. Border still closed. Only citizens can travel in and only ferry flights leave the DR. Will the DR open for visitors in July ?

Yes Mr. John, you are correct.
Yes, the border is still closed.
Yes, only citizens can travel in.
Yes, only ferry flights can leave RD.
Yes, the RD will be open for visitors in July, but at this time it will only be the international observers for the Presidential election.
No, not one person on this web forum has any other available information at this point in time.

 

[aarhus]

Yes Mr. John, you are correct.
Yes, the border is still closed.
Yes, only citizens can travel in.
Yes, only ferry flights can leave RD.
Yes, the RD will be open for visitors in July, but at this time it will only be the international observers for the Presidential election.
No, not one person on this web forum has any other available information at this point in time.

Ok but let’s stick to that. It was getting political and bickering about the virus. I don’t agree on the lack of valuable information. There has been info on flights in and out of the DR during the national emergency. But very limited.

 

[johne]

No, not one person on this web forum has any other available information at this point in time.

Gets my vote for most informative posting of the week!!

 

[GusFring]

I like your reply, it shows how well educated you are. Your metion of "big words" was a clear indicator of your academic acumen. unforgivable however is your reduction of my argument to nothing more than a couple of spelling error, or if you prefer grammatical and an alleged math error of which you offer no proof. I hope at some point you'll grace us with your mathematical skills and enlighten us with the proper percentage of mortality for the kung flu with regards to current world population.

I didn't know that a plublic forum post would be scrutinize as if it were a PhD dissertation. I'll try to be more careful with spelling as not to offend the spelling or grammar police but I can't promise you anything. As to the your alleged math error, I'm not sure what to do, you didn't offer any help, only ridecule - not particularly helpful. I suppose I'll have to content with this error until someone is kind enough to help.

Have you ever heard the adage, if you have nothing constructive to say it's best to say nothing at all or some variant of it? I think you could appreciate its wisdom. Have great rest of your day.

Your big words are really a disguise for your lack of any acumen. That is the tell.

Incorrect conclusions, typos everywhere and now defense of the same.

Sorry.

Give it up already.

 

[scot_tosh]

I did not read that in the press, where I live it tells the continent america is the hotspot of the world.

now within that continent the carribean is the less affected part, certainly not a hotspot.

Within the carribean puerto rico is per head about the same And as I understand they opened early that will result in having the higher numbers. Cuba is either very good or maybe counts the north corean way.

saying RD is a hotspot is exaggerated.

The press and media in the UK are calling the Dominican Republic the epicentre of the Caribbean. I never said the epicentre of the Americas.

 

[scot_tosh]

I did not read that in the press, where I live it tells the continent america is the hotspot of the world.

now within that continent the carribean is the less affected part, certainly not a hotspot.

Within the carribean puerto rico is per head about the same And as I understand they opened early that will result in having the higher numbers. Cuba is either very good or maybe counts the north corean way.

saying RD is a hotspot is exaggerated.

Maybe they are looking at the figures Puerto Rico has 5536 cases and 146 deaths. Republica Dominicana has 25086 cases and 647 deaths. I don't know what that works out at per million of population.

 

[GusFring]

Maybe they just did more test. You have to look at the positivity rate of the tests. Only if that goes up its really more. If its the same nothing changed except the number of tests.

They never tested enough, case number estimate is more then 100000 because of that for quite some time.

I do agree with this. The percentage of total tests that return positive would be a great indicator. The problem with this in the DR is it adds another layer to formulate data. It also adds in a test accuracy/inaccuracy factor. The gathering of this specific data here is impossible.

Daily new cases and hospital saturation % is a pretty good indicator.

 

[GusFring]

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So are you saying here to open up the country?

Is sarcastic slop really the most cogent way to address the epidemic or are you just that elemental?

 

[william webster]

I do agree with this. The percentage of total tests that return positive would be a great indicator. The problem with this in the DR is it adds another layer to formulate data. It also adds in a test accuracy/inaccuracy factor. The gathering of this specific data here is impossible.

Daily new cases and hospital saturation % is a pretty good indicator.

recent % pushes 30%... up from low 20's

 

[brickwasher]

So I just talk to a friend of mine who is a United States citizen and a legal resident of the Dominican. Him and his wife have been stuck in the states for the past couple months and have been waiting for a chance to fly back. They were just allowed back in a few days ago through a chartered plane service the Dominican government has arranged with Spirit Airlines. They had to submit their information to the local Consulate office and then when they got the call to buy their ticket they had to do it immediately and fly out of Miami. They also had to be tested for Covid before they left and to bring the results with them. Once they arrived in the Dominican they were checked physically and then they had to sign an agreement to be in quarantine for two weeks in their home in Jarabacoa. He told me when he arrived down there he asked about future flights with residents and he was told July 1 would be the date Others can fly in without all the hassle he had to go through

 

[william webster]

Perhaps there is a light at the end of the tunnel....
let's hope so

 

[TropicalPaul]

I don't remember repatriation flights for hurricanes - must have missed that

As for 'getting on with life'

My good friend Sunny Solar has it right..... in his/her post

I am doing my best to return to normalcy while obeying the protocols... as much as possible

There were definitely repatriation flights for Irma and Maria. I remember there was a scandal as a planeload of passengers was flown out and on the same flight were staff who were going to co-ordinate the repatriation flights. Some folks got one single night and had to come home.

 

[CaribeDigital]

You know to know when? Spain has just opened for international travel.

With 334 new cases yesterday, against 889 in the DR. With population 4 times as big.
Spain has 7 new cases per 1 000 000 inhabitants. DR has 84.
And Spain is not stupid. They needed badly those tourists. But were prudent enough to wait until the graph started to show a clear slide.

 

[DR Solar]

You know to know when? Spain has just opened for international travel.

With 334 new cases yesterday, against 889 in the DR. With population 4 times as big.
Spain has 7 new cases per 1 000 000 inhabitants. DR has 84.
And Spain is not stupid. They needed badly those tourists. But were prudent enough to wait until the graph started to show a clear slide.

"Badly needed tourists."