Where is the Love?

[AZB]

Blind love is for the blinds. True love will most likely will evolve into eternal love if you have good compatibility between you and your mate. Even then its difficult because we are dealing with a specie called woman. Women are truly from another planet and when it comes to dominican women, their planet is even further from the male planet. So you better find the best deal for yourself or you will have nothing but pain and suffering in your relationship; not to mention, high blood pressure issues.
My example:
I could have found blind love in some "barrio" , with a girl who is from a tin roof shack with 5 hr black-outs everyday, where 10 people live in one hut. Then good luck to me if I want to make a miss universe out of a cave-woman.
Since I broke my buns going to school, getting the education which would make my parents proud of me. Now I have a life I could feel a bit proud of, you think I will just throw it all away in exchange for some girl who will bring nothing but headaches and pain? No sir, this is not the love I want in my life.
Now I also have a dominican girlfriend. She is from a decent family. She already has her visa to usa for the past 10 yrs. She goes to europe for vacation with her family like we take a trip to NY. I just took her to arizona, california and las vegas with me. Guess what? she paid for her own plane ticket and for her own shopping. There was no worry for her visa as she already had it and no worries about defending her in public when we among educated americans. My girl impressed everyone.
So guys, if I can do this, why are so many other people having problems in life? There are so many girls in this island who are dying to meet decent, responsible men. What are you guys doing, looking for jungle fever in ghetto landia?
wake up.
AZB

 

[Mr_DR]

Yah because religious people don't lie and cheat on their wives/husbands.

If you go hunting in lions' dens you will most likely catch lions,
if you try to pick up somebody at a bar you will most likely
pick up a drinker.

You can't go to the bunny ranch in Vegas
and not expect to pick up an escort.

I think chances are much higher to meet someone that will
not try to scam you at a church than in a place known for it
such as a resort. At least in church these people are not
waiting on you while in a resort they are.

 

[Mr_DR]

Blind love is for the blinds. True love will most likely will evolve into eternal love if you have good compatibility between you and your mate. Even then its difficult because we are dealing with a specie called woman. Women are truly from another planet and when it comes to dominican women, their planet is even further from the male planet. So you better find the best deal for yourself or you will have nothing but pain and suffering in your relationship; not to mention, high blood pressure issues.
My example:
I could have found blind love in some "barrio" , with a girl who is from a tin roof shack with 5 hr black-outs everyday, where 10 people live in one hut. Then good luck to me if I want to make a miss universe out of a cave-woman.
Since I broke my buns going to school, getting the education which would make my parents proud of me. Now I have a life I could feel a bit proud of, you think I will just throw it all away in exchange for some girl who will bring nothing but headaches and pain? No sir, this is not the love I want in my life.
Now I also have a dominican girlfriend. She is from a decent family. She already has her visa to usa for the past 10 yrs. She goes to europe for vacation with her family like we take a trip to NY. I just took her to arizona, california and las vegas with me. Guess what? she paid for her own plane ticket and for her own shopping. There was no worry for her visa as she already had it and no worries about defending her in public when we among educated americans. My girl impressed everyone.
So guys, if I can do this, why are so many other people having problems in life? There are so many girls in this island who are dying to meet decent, responsible men. What are you guys doing, looking for jungle fever in ghetto landia?
wake up.
AZB

I think it is funny how they say "Dominicans 99 percent of the time are trying to scam in relationships" FYI, not all dominicans see a tourist as dollars or a visa.

They think that they already know all dominicans because they get scammed at Scamlandia barrios around resorts.

 

[AZB]

I think it is funny how they say "Dominicans 99 percent of the time are trying to scam in relationships" FYI, not all dominicans see a tourist as dollars or a visa.

They think that they already know all dominicans because they get scammed at Scamlandia barrios around resorts.

hahaha, so true. Now look at dominican point of view. Most dominicans thinks foreigners come to this island to sleep with black hookers. The white women come here for black "jack" action.
can you blame the dominicans for thinking this way?
AZB

 

[Mr_DR]

hahaha, so true. Now look at dominican point of view. Most dominicans thinks foreigners come to this island to sleep with black hookers. The white women come here for black "jack" action.
can you blame the dominicans for thinking this way?
AZB

Haha, I don't blame them, I guess most of them have to do what is easier for them and these tourists fall hard for them like under a spell for these women and men, and then when they get scammed or their heart broken then they crying, Dominicans are scammers, Dominicans are cheaters, Dominicans prey on tourists, etc, as if these people that they get scam by represent the whole population.

Little do they know that many dominicans would be the first ones to tell them not to go there, and no, it has nothing to do with racism either.

 

[CaptnGlenn]

I haven't been on the site much in the past few days, and obviously this thread is very popular. EVERYONE has an opinion. First page or two, I read through every post. Next couple of pages, I read over quickly, last page, just skimmed. It's all the same.

In the end, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE... the same everywhere. Some good, some not so much so, and some just really bad. In the first and last category, it is hard wired in the person, and in the middle group, (the not so nice, but not truly bad), it has a lot to do with situations. It doesn't matter ... D.R., U.S., or anywhere in the world, it's all the same. One could find individual examples to illustrate any point of view, but if you look at the big picture, it comes down to the same thing.... on the whole, PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.

 

[jackcrew]

True, people are people. I 100% agree that there are good and bad people in every country on Earth. But here's the problem I have. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic 4 times. During those visits, I have been mugged, in a fist-fight, had a camera stolen out of my hand, been cheated out of money, asked to pay more for a hotel room (after showing them my rate-confirmation sheet), had a credit card stolen, had a knife pulled on me, and had a friend's life threatened.

I have lived in the US all my life and only had one of the above happen (a fist-fight). I have traveled to other countries and never had any of the above happen (regardless of the destination but includes Mexico, Belize, and Columbia). Some of the time I was in the tourist areas, sometimes I was in the "real" areas of those nations.

This leads me to think that the people of the Dominican Republic are different. Why would I have much more crime befall me in the DR than other places. I have read all the above responses about personal responsibility and hanging in the right areas and with the right people. But even the greatest defenders of the DR, which I would be one, should agree that things/culture/people are different here.

 

[DMV123]

True, people are people. I 100% agree that there are good and bad people in every country on Earth. But here's the problem I have. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic 4 times. During those visits, I have been mugged, in a fist-fight, had a camera stolen out of my hand, been cheated out of money, asked to pay more for a hotel room (after showing them my rate-confirmation sheet), had a credit card stolen, had a knife pulled on me, and had a friend's life threatened.

I have lived in the US all my life and only had one of the above happen (a fist-fight). I have traveled to other countries and never had any of the above happen (regardless of the destination but includes Mexico, Belize, and Columbia). Some of the time I was in the tourist areas, sometimes I was in the "real" areas of those nations.

This leads me to think that the people of the Dominican Republic are different. Why would I have much more crime befall me in the DR than other places. I have read all the above responses about personal responsibility and hanging in the right areas and with the right people. But even the greatest defenders of the DR, which I would be one, should agree that things/culture/people are different here.

I have been here close to 10 years and had NONE of these problems. MAYBE the problem is YOU ??????? Maybe it is YOUR behavior while on vacation that leads to the problems!!!!!

 

[bob saunders]

True, people are people. I 100% agree that there are good and bad people in every country on Earth. But here's the problem I have. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic 4 times. During those visits, I have been mugged, in a fist-fight, had a camera stolen out of my hand, been cheated out of money, asked to pay more for a hotel room (after showing them my rate-confirmation sheet), had a credit card stolen, had a knife pulled on me, and had a friend's life threatened.

I have lived in the US all my life and only had one of the above happen (a fist-fight). I have traveled to other countries and never had any of the above happen (regardless of the destination but includes Mexico, Belize, and Columbia). Some of the time I was in the tourist areas, sometimes I was in the "real" areas of those nations.

This leads me to think that the people of the Dominican Republic are different. Why would I have much more crime befall me in the DR than other places. I have read all the above responses about personal responsibility and hanging in the right areas and with the right people. But even the greatest defenders of the DR, which I would be one, should agree that things/culture/people are different here.

Wow, you must not follow the time honored advice of not going to places you shouldn't, at times when you shouldn't, and hanging with people you shouldn't, while drinking too much at the same time. Either that or you have incredibly bad luck.

 

[Chip]

In the first and last category, it is hard wired in the person, and in the middle group, (the not so nice, but not truly bad), it has a lot to do with situations.

With one fell swoop free will is no more.

 

[Chip]

But even the greatest defenders of the DR, which I would be one, should agree that things/culture/people are different here.

I would have to assume by this statement that you spend a lot of time in the tourist areas and probably don't understand half of what the locals are saying too you. It's also easy and normal for people to assume the worse when they don't understand.

People aren't really any different here, the difference is the police here is weak. If the US had the same type of police force it would be a bloodbath. Dominicans are much less confrontational than Americans. Of course if you running around at 2 am in the morning at the bars here you are going to run into the dreggs of society bud.

 

[mountainannie]

True, people are people. I 100% agree that there are good and bad people in every country on Earth. But here's the problem I have. I have traveled to the Dominican Republic 4 times. During those visits, I have been mugged, in a fist-fight, had a camera stolen out of my hand, been cheated out of money, asked to pay more for a hotel room (after showing them my rate-confirmation sheet), had a credit card stolen, had a knife pulled on me, and had a friend's life threatened.

I have lived in the US all my life and only had one of the above happen (a fist-fight). I have traveled to other countries and never had any of the above happen (regardless of the destination but includes Mexico, Belize, and Columbia). Some of the time I was in the tourist areas, sometimes I was in the "real" areas of those nations.

This leads me to think that the people of the Dominican Republic are different. Why would I have much more crime befall me in the DR than other places. I have read all the above responses about personal responsibility and hanging in the right areas and with the right people. But even the greatest defenders of the DR, which I would be one, should agree that things/culture/people are different here.

I have lived here for 7 years. During that time I have traveled about alone on public transport, to lots of remote places. Like DMV, I have never had any of those things happen.. except the camera..which I left on my porch.. and which could happen any where,

UNDERSTAND that people here are much poorer than any area that you have been to in the US. AND they do, indeed, many will steal from one another..despite years of moral teachings of the Church They also LOAN to one another, help one another, and somehow manage to stay afloat.

Where were you? What were you doing?

I think that DR has sadly been a low down sex tourist destination for the last twenty years...and many of the folks who came here built some pretty low down places to hang out in... and I think that you were hanging out there, with the Dominicans who are attracted to that sort of game.

Now there are a lot of us expats who have settled here in the last 20 years who are not part of the "scene" that most tourists experience. We live here quite safely, quite happily,,, do not get into fist fights

do not get robbed regularly.. do not live in fear.

I am philosophically opposed to folks going to church to hook up... that would be a con

but I agree that there are some very wonderful people there.

As for the folks that you encountered.. they were the same types which would collect around any dive .../ anywhere in the world.....

If you want a relationship with a decent Dominican,, then you will have to demonstrate that YOU are a decent person. You will have to come here, behave properly, develop friends, prove yourself trustworthy,.....

After all, they have no way of knowing who you are, right? There are thousands of very very shady expats here... running from various law enforcement agencies.. exhibiting all sorts of shady and perverse characteristics.... It is reasonable for Dominicans to assume that you are just trash.... unless you do something spectacular to prove that you are not....


simple enough, right?

 

[Chip]

I don't know where people get the idea that most or even a considerable number of Dominicans any more than any other people. Among all of my wife's family we have never had anything stolen in our house or any posessions. the only thing I ever had stolen was my shoes on my wedding day, but we had tons on people entering the house.

Funny how so many Westerners don't think it's stealing downloading movies and music when it has already been proven to be illegal. I admit I've done it myself too. I guess we are really not that different, just kept in check by laws.

 

[Anastacio]

It has to be accepted that the Republic is generally more dangerous for most, depending where we have come from. But it is not renowned for being a safe country, let's put it that way. I do think if you open yourself up to it you are more likely to be set upon here than elsewhere, it just is how it is, in general.
I would be interested to know exactly where this guy who seems to have had serial bad luck had all of these experiences. Seems you must have a big idiot sign flashing above you or you go out and get uncontrollably drunk and expect not to draw attention, which seems to be the norm when people end up continuously in the sh1t. I'd start looking at yourself rather than what is around you.
As far a fist fighting goes, well I've seen a handful, always between dregs of society, drunks and begging folk. Never have I witnessed a fist fight I volving respectable folk, I've seen shouting and screaming, guns drawn and family dramatics, but rarely do fists fly. Again look at yourself before what is around you if you attract these people.

 

[Anastacio]

Funny how so many Westerners don't think it's stealing downloading movies and music when it has already been proven to be illegal. I admit I've done it myself too. I guess we are really not that different, just kept in check by laws.

you can't really compare stealing someones personal possessions to downloading free music and films. I agree it all happens everywhere, just the ratio is different in the republic.
Me and my family were held up at gunpoint, Yards from our home, a gun pointed at my daughters head to make me hand over. That is not the same as downloading films or music, simply not comparable just because they are both illegal. I agree with most of what you say, but that example is weak.

 

[Chip]

you can't really compare stealing someones personal possessions to downloading free music and films. I agree it all happens everywhere, just the ratio is different in the republic.
Me and my family were held up at gunpoint, Yards from our home, a gun pointed at my daughters head to make me hand over. That is not the same as downloading films or music, simply not comparable just because they are both illegal. I agree with most of what you say, but that example is weak.

And attacks never happen anywhere else? Where we lived in Metrowest in Orlando, we had a drive by killing, murders of multiple people in some condos close by and three car jackings at the local Wal-Mart.

With regard to downloading "free" music and movies it has already been proven that it is illegal in the US. Certainly here in the DR it may seem a weak comparison because it is not enforced.

 

[aguas]

Why such broad generalizations? If I understood the original poster correctly, he found love because she already had a visa and paid for her own plane ticket? So people are only "good" or worth falling in love with, if they are educated and have alot of money. So every girl in the barrio should be avoided because "poor" means bad? Wow, where is the logic in this? It is very unfortunate that a persons character, morals, and most everything else about them is based on how much education and money they have. Although I'm sure you can find some people anywhere in the world with this worldview, it seems to be really widespread in the DR. Eventually I think they will figure it out that everybody's s..t stinks, not just the poor and uneducated.

 

[SantiagoDR]

Among all of my wife's family we have never had anything stolen in our house or any posessions. the only thing I ever had stolen was my shoes on my wedding day, but we had tons on people entering the house.

O' propane tanky, propane tanky, wherefore art thou propane tanky?

Alas, the last I seen of thee, thou was in my back yard?​

 

[Anastacio]

And attacks never happen anywhere else? Where we lived in Metrowest in Orlando, we had a drive by killing, murders of multiple people in some condos close by and three car jackings at the local Wal-Mart.

With regard to downloading "free" music and movies it has already been proven that it is illegal in the US. Certainly here in the DR it may seem a weak comparison because it is not enforced.

I am not claiming these things do not happen elsewhere, I am claiming the ratio is higher in the Republic. We all know the states is full of fruit cakes running around shooting up kids in schools and such like. We expect nothing less of the US these days, but that is another topic altogether.
And we all know it is illegal to download certain films and music, but don't try to compare that with direct personal crime, you know it can not be compared, under any circumstances.
I'm not speaking against what you say, I think I agree for the most part, but downloading films is a different area of crime to breaking into homes and robbing at gunpoint.

 

[Chip]

O' propane tanky, propane tanky, wherefore art thou propane tanky?

Alas, the last I seen of thee, thou was in my back yard?​

Oh Don you are ever so smart and witty. A Haitian stole my tank.