Why do the Dominican people have one of the highest amount of single -mother families

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donP

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Your logical connection fails. In Europe and the US almost 10 million children are killed every year in the womb. Not only that contraceptives are given to grade school children.

You are in the wrong thread.

Here we are neither talking about abortion nor about Europe.

The extremely high promiscuity and resulting pregnancies in adolescent Dominican females is a fact.

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Yes Americans are smarter and use Birth control!!

Nope, they just off the kids in before they are born. If you counted the abortions as part of the pregnancy rate they aren't very successful with the birth Control methods. Abortion is what is supposed to happen if your birth control didn't work.
 

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Googling stats aside, I am from Toronto and can accurately claim there are WAY more teens with an infant on their hip in the DR, compared to Canada.

Seems around 50% of females 15-19 have a kid already.

Shocking ...

Like Toronto is all of Canada. Canada has plenty of teen mothers. Certainly the rate isn't as high as either the DR or USA. We have better education systems and easier access than either country.
We have several hundred girls in the school from ages 12-18 and none of them are or have been pregnant. In 20 years of the school operating you can count on one hand how many of them have been teen mothers ( under the age of 18)
 
Like Toronto is all of Canada. Canada has plenty of teen mothers. Certainly the rate isn't as high as either the DR or USA. We have better education systems and easier access than either country.
We have several hundred girls in the school from ages 12-18 and none of them are or have been pregnant. In 20 years of the school operating you can count on one hand how many of them have been teen mothers ( under the age of 18)

Very surprised by this, since within 2 blocks of me I don't have enough digits to count all the teen moms. What is the class type that goes to your school? Sorry I don't know anything about your school is it private?
 

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Very surprised by this, since within 2 blocks of me I don't have enough digits to count all the teen moms. What is the class type that goes to your school? Sorry I don't know anything about your school is it private?

Private , but our cliental is the working poor and some middle class. Do you not live beside a very poor barrio. What you think is a teen mom may not be either a teen or the mom. Most of our teaching assistants are student teachers , attending night school....etc. Most of them are between 18-20 years old, and some are extremely attractive girls with regular boyfriends or husbands- they only get pregnant if they want to so that tells me that Birth Control is both known about and used.
 
Private , but our cliental is the working poor and some middle class. Do you not live beside a very poor barrio. What you think is a teen mom may not be either a teen or the mom. Most of our teaching assistants are student teachers , attending night school....etc. Most of them are between 18-20 years old, and some are extremely attractive girls with regular boyfriends or husbands- they only get pregnant if they want to so that tells me that Birth Control is both known about and used.

Yes I live next to poor barrio, very great people. I meant they are either teen moms now or were, not that they are all teen moms now kinda thing.

That is good to hear about your school and pregnancy numbers!!
 
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You are in the wrong thread.

Here we are neither talking about abortion nor about Europe.

The extremely high promiscuity and resulting pregnancies in adolescent Dominican females is a fact.

donP

Pointing out the real reasons why teen pregancy is lower in Europe and the US is relevant, sorry.

Furthemore, you have absolutely zero references to back up you claim that the teen promiscuity rate in the DR is higher than anywhere else. Next.
 

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Nope, they just off the kids in before they are born. If you counted the abortions as part of the pregnancy rate they aren't very successful with the birth Control methods. Abortion is what is supposed to happen if your birth control didn't work.

Abortion isn't separate from birth control. It is birth control and nobody is "offing kids" for crying out loud, they're performing medical procedures at the request of female patients to remove unwanted parts of their bodies just like with a polyp, a mole or a cyst. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no more logic in calling a fetus "unborn" than calling it "undead". They aren't babies. Babies have birthdays.
 

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Certainly the rate isn't as high as either the DR or USA. We have better education systems and easier access to health carethan either country.

fixed it for 'ya

BTW on that "better education system" thingy....there are many more Canadians attending universities in the USA than the other way around so we'll be needing a little more than your say so on that one.
 

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As father of a teenager I sometimes have casual contact with other parents. Recently on two separate occasions I was drawn into a conversation with two Dominican gentlemen who I had never met before. One proudly told me that he had 10
children with 10 different women, the other told me that he had 6 children with 6 different women. Both men appeared to be of very modest means but extremely proud of their accomplishments respecting fatherhood. In a country where masculine pride requires in impregnating as many women as is humanly possible do you really wonder why there are so many single mothers?
 

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As father of a teenager I sometimes have casual contact with other parents. Recently on two separate occasions I was drawn into a conversation with two Dominican gentlemen who I had never met before. One proudly told me that he had 10
children with 10 different women, the other told me that he had 6 children with 6 different women. Both men appeared to be of very modest means but extremely proud of their accomplishments respecting fatherhood. In a country where masculine pride requires in impregnating as many women as is humanly possible do you really wonder why there are so many single mothers?

Those were no gentlemen. Gentlemen take pride in their sacrifices without mentioning them.
 
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Abortion isn't separate from birth control. It is birth control and nobody is "offing kids" for crying out loud, they're performing medical procedures at the request of female patients to remove unwanted parts of their bodies just like with a polyp, a mole or a cyst. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no more logic in calling a fetus "unborn" than calling it "undead". They aren't babies. Babies have birthdays.

I disagree with alot of this because I think it is perverse feminist wack-job logic that allows abortion to be sold the way it is. Unborn, undead are polite indescript euphemisms. No one thinks twice about the word "alive" though. Once you use the word alive or living those arguments fall apart. Then we start to sparse language on what does it mean to be alive. And to add bearing to this we use legal definitions instead of scientific definitions. You hair isnt alive but it grows out your head, in your nose and off your balls every month like clockwork. Your fingernails, toenails and teeth arent alive but they are created from your body every month. So if nails, nosehair, boogers are all produced by a living specimen but in and of themselves have no life why wouldnt the egg and the sperm be alive? The sperm must be alive for it to swim to the egg and punch it, causing fertiliziation. The egg must be alive for it to initiate meiosis, cell division and replication. Anything which contains half the genetic material of the future article MUST be alive to do so because the genetic combination and expression of genes will not be known until birth. And this is easiest expressed in a country full of mulatto people because you NEVER know who the child is going to look like.

In the Matrix itt is easy to sell obscure, confusing concepts and Very hard to sell concrete, absolute ones. So we change the core words, code words and phraseology and it becomes very hard to see what they are doing. And killing your living unborn child is what it is, sho nuff. They want you to concentrate on unborn and not living because it is a nebulous concept. Everything in the body is alive, as a test, take yourself out and drink some rot-gut moonshine mixed with antifreeze. It will destroy your liver and kidneys and may make you blind, but you ll get a smooth high from it.

Muthfafker told me yesterday that people are no longer considered straight, if they are heterosexual. You are supposed to call them Cis-normative or some sht like that. Cis-gender. I see these weirdos out here...I m watching you with my "Wallking Dead" beady eyes.

Why is single motherhood so high? Because women expect nothing from the men, so they get nothing at all. Well, they expect nothing concrete only confabulations of fantasy and feeling. The men stay tuned as long as "the P is free" and there are no responsibilities being laid upon them. The women expect a greater outcome than any party had invested, even carnally. So they get stuck with the children and he can leave at any moment to go and do it again. Until she meets you, foreign guy, where none of this sht is supposed to matter to you, in fact you should be honored to jump through hoops for a hoodrat with 17 kids, and some of these guys do it, willingly, writing their own verses in the Simp National Anthem.

In the past 6 years, I realized this morning, since 2009, that at least 3 of the women I was involved with who didnt like the deal I was doling out got up with a dude immediately after me who got them pregnant and then subsequently bounced like a Acme Super Ball. And in hindsight when I talk to them about this stuff it was basically he told them what they wanted to hear. And they ate it up, "he said he wanted a family, a relationship, a home, yada yada yada" and thats how it went down. You want single motherhood to go down, tell these women to wake up, and expect real accomplishments not fantasy proclamations, but it wont work. Puerto Rico used to be the same way now it is a social mess.

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As father of a teenager I sometimes have casual contact with other parents. Recently on two separate occasions I was drawn into a conversation with two Dominican gentlemen who I had never met before. One proudly told me that he had 10
children with 10 different women, the other told me that he had 6 children with 6 different women. Both men appeared to be of very modest means but extremely proud of their accomplishments respecting fatherhood. In a country where masculine pride requires in impregnating as many women as is humanly possible do you really wonder why there are so many single mothers?


Is this a cultural norm in the D.R? Where men run around like he-goats on heat, impregnating every young female in site without any sense of responsibility, then gather round to boast about these 'accomplishments'?
I have a Dominican 'friend' who has frequently boasted to me about how he has seven children from seven different women. His new 'wife' just gave birth to his eight child and he wants me to be the God father!!
Two days before Christmas last year, I was with him in his mothers house, and he proudly and gleefully showed me Christmas pictures sent to him from mothers of all his children. Picture of child and mother in Christmas red. They were of all colors in the Dominican spectrum, and he was very proud of this.
I am figuring that he will probably have over 30 children when he is done, since he is just 29 years old.
Is this a thing of great pride among Dominican men? How about marrying one wife and raising children with her as the Catholic Church teaches?
 
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Is this a cultural norm in the D.R? Where men run around like he-goats on heat, impregnating every young female in site without any sense of responsibility, then gather round to boast about these 'accomplishments'?
I have a Dominican 'friend' who has frequently boasted to me about how he has seven children from seven different women. His new 'wife' just gave birth to his eight child and he wants me to be the God father!!
Two days before Christmas last year, I was with him in his mothers house, and he proudly and gleefully showed me Christmas pictures sent to him from mothers of all his children. Picture of child and mother in Christmas red. They were of all colors in the Dominican spectrum, and he was very proud of this.
I am figuring that he will probably have over 30 children when he is done, since he is just 29 years old.
Is this a thing of great pride among Dominican men? How about marrying one wife and raising children with her as the Catholic Church teaches?

you re fooling yourself homey if you are waiting for this to happen. Listen, last year I made a reservation at Playa Dorada, Blue Bayou to spend some time with my female friend. I had seeing this babe off and on since 2011. I told her I made the reservation in May for September. She tells me at the end of August that she cant go. I press her on that and she just says she cant go. 2 weeks later she says she cant go because she was pregnant. Whoa! I m a super duper dude but I aint that good. So As it is explained she fell for the Svengali Game from an old high school boyfriend. He got to rub-a dub dub, got her pregnant and married her. She told me not to pass through because it "cause problems".

OK, I was curious to know how things were going a couple of months ago in March. Whoa! Great time, she was about to deliver in a few days. I asked about "my nemesis". Hahahaha! predictable. As it is the relationship failed in close proximity to "Im pregnant". She said he lives with another women in another town. He came through when she gave birth, took fotos and declared himself and named the child. And then returned back to wherever he lived with whomever he now lives with. So with no penalty and even less a regard for child support he can do this FOREVER.

The worse part for me, in not some other dude scooped the chick I was kicking it with and boned her to Babytown. It is that this woman worked as a lawyer for the Oficina de la Manutension por la Direccion de la Procuradora de la Provincia del Santiago, so she should have seen this shtt coming. I was talking to her 3 days before she gave birth and she said "Men are liars. They just lie. It is all great in the beginning, then they change." I responded "Are you sure? Are you sure you just didnt hear what you wanted to hear? And that in any event, if I tell you whatever you want to hear then I can have my way with you as long as I want to?"
 

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I disagree with alot of this because I think it is perverse feminist wack-job logic that allows abortion to be sold the way it is. Unborn, undead are polite indescript euphemisms. No one thinks twice about the word "alive" though. Once you use the word alive or living those arguments fall apart. Then we start to sparse language on what does it mean to be alive. And to add bearing to this we use legal definitions instead of scientific definitions. You hair isnt alive but it grows out your head, in your nose and off your balls every month like clockwork. Your fingernails, toenails and teeth arent alive but they are created from your body every month. So if nails, nosehair, boogers are all produced by a living specimen but in and of themselves have no life why wouldnt the egg and the sperm be alive? The sperm must be alive for it to swim to the egg and punch it, causing fertiliziation. The egg must be alive for it to initiate meiosis, cell division and replication. Anything which contains half the genetic material of the future article MUST be alive to do so because the genetic combination and expression of genes will not be known until birth. And this is easiest expressed in a country full of mulatto people because you NEVER know who the child is going to look like.

Okay, this is as good a place to begin as any. Please notice that I specifically compared the fetus, which cannot survive on its own and it as much a part of the Woman's body as her tonsils or appendix to a polyp, a mole or a cyst and not a booger or anything off her balls.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend ending a pregnancy if it is viable and not a danger to the Mothers health but I don't have a womb and just like you, I'm stuck with just an opinion. I had a high school sweetie who gave me the old "I think that we should see other people" in college when she found the BBD and about a year later when I came back East (NJ) for tech school I'd found pretty much the same scenario as she now had a Daughter and no Man and a few months later I met the Woman I was to marry and have my Children with (in that order) and I regret having never thanked my ex GF for getting the Hell out of the way of my future. Stuff doesn't happen to us, it happens around us. We shouldn't feel compelled to step in it.

I can't blame the single parent phenomenon on the Fathers any more than the Mothers because society has made single parenting almost a badge of honor which in some cases it actually proves to be. I have a Cuz' who dropped out of college as her 5th semester coincided with her 1st trimester. The guy stuck around and they had another but they couldn't get along so they split and his interest in his Daughters split as well. A couple years later she met and married a guy and moved down South and had two more Daughters. That marriage didn't stand the test of time and she raised all 4 through college and went back and finished college herself and they are all grown up and have Families of their own and bore her grandbabies and great grandbabies and she's been remarried for the past 20 years, happily to a guy she's known all her adult life but had never dated.

I said that to say this, having to raise a Child by one's self is no picnic but it's no automatic disaster either. We find a way, even with no help coming from nowhere we make it happen because we've got no other choice.
 

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Abortion isn't separate from birth control. It is birth control and nobody is "offing kids" for crying out loud, they're performing medical procedures at the request of female patients to remove unwanted parts of their bodies just like with a polyp, a mole or a cyst. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no more logic in calling a fetus "unborn" than calling it "undead". They aren't babies. Babies have birthdays.

A fetus is not the same as a cyst or cancerous polyp. The end result of a fetus is a child if left to fruition, at least the majority of time. The host usually doesn't die from being pregnant or giving birth. Perhaps you can think of a better comparison. Abortion is birth control the same way as extermination camps were.
 

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Is this a cultural norm in the D.R? Where men run around like he-goats on heat, impregnating every young female in site without any sense of responsibility, then gather round to boast about these 'accomplishments'?
I have a Dominican 'friend' who has frequently boasted to me about how he has seven children from seven different women. His new 'wife' just gave birth to his eight child and he wants me to be the God father!!
Two days before Christmas last year, I was with him in his mothers house, and he proudly and gleefully showed me Christmas pictures sent to him from mothers of all his children. Picture of child and mother in Christmas red. They were of all colors in the Dominican spectrum, and he was very proud of this.
I am figuring that he will probably have over 30 children when he is done, since he is just 29 years old.
Is this a thing of great pride among Dominican men? How about marrying one wife and raising children with her as the Catholic Church teaches?

it is a cultural norm because the women allow it to work like that. they all know that Fausto has seven other kids with as many women, that he drives a motoconcho, and he is not worth a darn. they still get down to the horizontal mambo with him. so, there you have it. women with kids that have no male presence in their lives, and who get no financial support. daddy sets the fine example, and sonny boy starts doing his part as soon as he reaches puberty. that is life.
 

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Abortion is birth control the same way as extermination camps were.

Nope.

The People who died in extermination camps had birthdays. The birthday is the difference between a fetus (part of the host body) and a Human being. That's what the law says, that's what science says and that's the way it is. Get over it.
 

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Nope.

The People who died in extermination camps had birthdays. The birthday is the difference between a fetus (part of the host body) and a Human being. That's what the law says, that's what science says and that's the way it is. Get over it.

Science has never said that human life does not begin at conception.

Law does not say life begins at birth. In fact no Federal Law makes this claim. The issue is fetal viability that if remains will eventually allow humans to have the constitutional right to not be killed before they are recognized. Educate yourself.
 
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