Has Hippo fooled the IMF or Are They Fooling Us

Golo100

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The agreement between the IMF and Hippo is so weak that it appears to be a smokescreen for something sinister. I just dont believe that this is the real deal. There is no way the country can recover with such minutia.

Take a look at it. A fiscal reduction of 1% against the GNP. That means no reduction in the government payroll. No salary increases? So what? Did you expect that salaries would increase anyway? A $10 dollar increase to travellers(Now US$20) In my book that doesnt bring you more than US$30,000,000(Can anybody argue that?) Then an increase of the import tax across the board of 2%. That will not bring much because there will be a drastic reduction on imports, so the tax will only increase the tax level, but will reduce the tax receipts. How can this reduce the dollar exchange? I dont see it. On the contrary it will increase the devaluation instantly. I believe the IMF wants to hold this at at $40 to 1, not reduce it to $30 to $1. The dissolution of Baninter was not an innovation. That had to be done anyway. The increased supervision of banks was a given. We had to do it anyway. Subsidies eliminated? What subsidies? In the last 8 years the government has eliminated most. The check tax? That is just laughable. There is an incredible reduction in the amount of checks written today.

So Hippo has either fooled this people or the IMF has a hidden agenda. I bet there are hundreds of taxes coming up soon.

But where Hippo is fooling this people is with his hidden expenses. Take for instance what Hippo is doing in his little red neck neighborhood of Gurabo. He just bought with government funds a huge mansion which can be measured in acres, not meters. In my observation of the neighborhood this mansion is in, the average price of homes is about $25,000,000. So assuming he got a bargain he paid that much. The mansion is in dire need for repairs and redecoration is a necessity. I figure another $50,000,000 conservatively, since some of the materials will be hijacked from drug confiscations, and lumber from the enviromental agency again.

So while the IMF is preaching austerity to us, Hippo is now building a third mansion, after the Jarabacoa Taj Mahal and the San Cristobal Tahiti Dream. The Gurabo castle will be the real Camp David. He calls it the Cibao National Palace. He now will live in five mansions, including his house in Gurabo and the Juan Dolio beach house. How much room does this man need?

Just in security technology this mansion should require about US$250,000. The landscaping alone could go as high as $5,000,000 pesos.

What else Hippo? How about another mansion at El Morro de Montecristi, another one a Los Haitises, another one at Uvero Alto, an oriental beach house at Bahia de Las Aguilas, and another one at Las Terrenas. That should complete the whole cycle and you would have a mansion in every pole of the island.

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Golo100

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The US$10 is the airport departure tax for everyone, which could have been paid in the equivalent in pesos. However with the crazy fluctuation of the dollar I believe the peso payment will be eliminated.

TW
 

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Would you guarantee loans to this man?

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Chirimoya

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arturo, your picture doesn't appear - on my screen anyway.

Could it be that the measures will be phased to favour Hippo's re-election ambitions, as suggested last week?

Chiri
 

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Well, the numbers don't add up. When the government spending has increased 25% and revenues only by 7% , and when the Baniner hole =80% of the government's yearly budget, you need more than a freeze-- you need deep cuts! I would be surprised if that proposal flyes with the IMF.
 

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From El Caribe:

La tasa de cambio sigue hacia arriba, y ayer la moneda norteamericana era vendida entre RD$38.20 y RD$39.00 por uno en el mercado

Well, sounds like my Wolrd Bank contact may be correct when she said the peso may go to 100 to 1.:confused:
 

mondongo

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From what I read in the newspapers, this deal is not yet done. These are the terms proposed by Mejia and his charlatans. I hope that the IMF does not accept them. As Golo says, this means no reduction in govt emplyoees. The deficit will be reduced by increased taxes and lowering investment......I want to repeat that last part.....lower invesment....This means that the money the govt spends is not going to productive resources....and thus future ability to pay it back is diminished....wow....this is more entertaining than going to a comedy show.
 

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These are onlt the proposals of the government

In fact. These are some of the proposals of the government to the IMF contained in the letter of intent which is the governmental request to the IMF for financial support.
It has to be approved by the board of executive directors of the institution. Only in case of their approval an agreement with these termis may be signed.
But since the experts of the IMF participated in elaborating the letter of intent it is likely that it will be approved.
 

Keith R

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If the IMF accepts any terms anywhere near these proposals, then the Fund is more stupid and careless than I thought and I will personally actively lobby the US Congress not to approve the next replenishment of the Fund, because these terms are a bad joke and any agreement based on them would be unsound and ineffective.:mad:

What I want to know is why the heck Iglesias is going out of his way to help this package, and why it is he, the President of the Inter-American Development Bank, and not some rep from the IMF, that is "explaining" IMF terms to the Dominican Congress. Something's way too fishy about that. Why is he putting his personal rep on the line? What has Hippo done to make him become the PRD's salesman? It doesn't add up.
 
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Golo100

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Thats not all

Get this....Hippo already started making exemptions to specific groups. For instance, he says that The Free Trade Zones will not have to pay the 2% import tax for the raw materials they use.

What a dandy!!! Here is a group that is the #1 "beneficiary" of the peso fall, making great profits at our expense and on top of that Hippo now gives them a 2% gift. Just think. The Free Traders are saving more than 50% in empoyee salaries with the dollars they get from income abroad for their goods. If they were paying and employee the equivalent of $200 dollars a month before, they can do it now with $100 dollars, because their employees get paid in pesos with miserable salaries. They were also selling their dollars without restrictions and buying them again at the next Hippo-induced dollar fall.

But thats not all. The IMF calls for no subsidies. Hippo told them and us that all subsidies were happily eliminated and that this would not be a roadblock for the agreement. FAT CHANCE!!! There is a Gasoil and Fuel Oil subsidy for the usage by the power companies, who are also sending all their dollars abroad and increasing their profits!!

Like someone said here, if the IMF are such idiots they can be fooled by this hare-brain Gurabo burro, then we deserve everything we get. This is all so obvious, it does not take an economist to find out about it.

To top it off, Hippo is using the few little value of the Baninter assets for his reelection campaign right under their noses. I dont know of you noticed, but ASTER, the cable company owned by Baninter has now ads promoting the Pan Am Games. How can a company in such trouble and seeking a buyer be wasting money in advertising? Very simple...by orders of Hippo to look good with the games, since their is no money to advertise them.

Hippo is replacing all the valuable and ratings-producing talent in the TV stations taken over from Baninter, thus bringing down their value in the market. Just today, they told two of the best marketable figures in TV news and commentaries to go home from Telecentro and were replaced with a Hippo lambon. Another Hippo lambon Ex-senator Rijo, a guy who had to be in RadioTelevision Dominicana to have a chance at a TV program, has now been given a spot in RNN News(his own program). The ratings for this guy are practicly ZERO. He is a walking PPH ad-mouth. This guy produces cheapo powerpoint charts that only lead to Hippos reelection. He doesnt see the light. But the Baninter assets are falling deeper into a wormhole.

I am waiting for the icing on the cake.....TURNING BAEZ FIGUEROA YACHT INTO THE" PRESIDENTIAL YACHT". Believe me. This is in the works. It seems a well known lambon who spends more time campaigning than handling his agricultural chair has already suggested not selling the yacht and using it for his next inauguration!!!

TW
 

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The position that Iglesias has taken in this whole situation has got me really worried. If you rememer, when he arrived in the country all of his comments were about how not-so-bad our situation was, and how our economy was doing just fine. It sounds to me like something fishy is being worked up, that might include a possible rejection of the IMF of the proposed plan.
 
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Similar talk from Hanz Hertell, the US Ambassador. Does anyone know if the US Ambassador, often referred to as a "wealthy businessman" and "political contributor" from Puerto Rico is a Hipp0-like tiguere?
 

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Re: Thats not all

golo said:
Get this....Hippo already started making exemptions to specific groups. For instance, he says that The Free Trade Zones will not have to pay the 2% import tax for the raw materials they use.

What a dandy!!! Here is a group that is the #1 "beneficiary" of the peso fall, making great profits at our expense and on top of that Hippo now gives them a 2% gift. Just think. The Free Traders are saving more than 50% in empoyee salaries with the dollars they get from income abroad for their goods. If they were paying and employee the equivalent of $200 dollars a month before, they can do it now with $100 dollars, because their employees get paid in pesos with miserable salaries. They were also selling their dollars without restrictions and buying them again at the next Hippo-induced dollar fall.TW

Two points that I'd like to respond to - and one piece of gossip - The Free Zone Companies are taking a hell of a risk in these conditions. Salary increases for employees are a 'must do' and on the agenda for most companies - no-one can run a business with hungry employees. The 'free traders' pay dearly for what they get. I get a bill once a week for 'services' that aduana performs for me. We all pay it. The new environmental regulations are going to cost everyone in the free zones. Now, the free zones fall within the bill - Ah jeez, I forget the number now. I talk to 'free-zoners's daily... few of them want to exploit people and are wrestling with the issue of what the right thing is to do. Business out of a free zone is not quite the doubling up of profits as you suggest here Golo. It is tough in the business world. Just think of what we have to face in terms of transportation. I have to convince my customers that I'm so 'cool', and so 'good' to do business with, and my products are so 'superior' that they'll pay double in transportation and shipping - same products can be bought from the US at cheaper transportation.

Second point - my free zone company's regulations stipulate that I can bring in stuff for raw materials without being penalized. If not for this, few businesses would be here and doing business. This is not a 'gift' that we are handed. This is just a piece of shrewd manipulation of the facts - I cannot be compelled to pay it, so Hippo is just making it sound good for the free zone companies. Usual politics... just a different 'spin'.

One piece of gossip - Spoke today with someone who deals with new businesses 'applying' for free zone permission. We have a little more space than what we can use at this moment in our premise. Story goes that they are begging us to take a smaller premise as "we don't understand what is happening in America, but our free zone is inundated with American companies applying for free zone permission."

One final point - if Free Zones companies did not partake fully in the dollar economy, the DR would have no takers for free zone space. I don't know if there are numbers for this, but 'remittances' sent from Dominican's abroad, is a small number compared to 'remittances' to the country from Free Zone companies.

Free zones are a good thing for the DR. They should declare the whole country on big 'free zone'.
 

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One sided deal!!

Recently I work for Industrial Free Zone in San Pedro de Macoris, I believe that Hippo had made a one sided deal!! This deal will make the riches richer and the poor poorer!! Does the deal with IMF help this country's economy?? I don't think so!! What I believe is that Dominican Republic, no matter which government comes later and specially to Hippo if he wants to reelect, must let the dollars flow by it's offer and demand law!! Once it's not intervened with any (absolutely NONE) governmental measures the economy will begin to stabilize!! For the moment... I highly recommend to anyone who has a farm... START FARMING!! That's the basic of a country's economy. NO FARMING NO FOOD!!! Once we don't have to depend on IMPORTS goods, we are GOOD TO GO ON!! And just be then we can start to control the PESOS!!

THAT SURE WILL TAKE A LOOOOOOOOOONG time... However it's possible!! A good example is Taiwan!!
 

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Re: One sided deal!!

Happyhare said:
Recently I work for Industrial Free Zone in San Pedro de Macoris, I believe that Hippo had made a one sided deal!! This deal will make the riches richer and the poor poorer!! Does the deal with IMF help this country's economy?? I don't think so!! What I believe is that Dominican Republic, no matter which government comes later and specially to Hippo if he wants to reelect, must let the dollars flow by it's offer and demand law!! Once it's not intervened with any (absolutely NONE) governmental measures the economy will begin to stabilize!! For the moment... I highly recommend to anyone who has a farm... START FARMING!! That's the basic of a country's economy. NO FARMING NO FOOD!!! Once we don't have to depend on IMPORTS goods, we are GOOD TO GO ON!! And just be then we can start to control the PESOS!!

THAT SURE WILL TAKE A LOOOOOOOOOONG time... However it's possible!! A good example is Taiwan!!

Hmmmmm..Your first post and you managed to attack the IMF and the rich while at the same time advocate a free market. After that you propose a return to an agrarian economy.

I can hardly wait for your 2nd post!
 

bochinche

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i, too work in a free zone in santo domingo and whilst some of chris'es points are valid, i still have to agree with golo.
the company, i work for, pays me and 95% of their employees in pesos. it is a big company and the directors and their ring decided to pay themselves in dollars about five months ago. at the same time they decided to give us a pay hike of 8% due to "inflation". this was the first and so far only time they have done this. how they figured out the 8% is anybody's guess.
it was gratefully received, but remember, this 8% was given a long time after the current bout of "inflation" set in, plus we have not had anything else in the last five, probably the most difficult, months.

i am very worried because the directors and their ring are all dominicans and now that they have their salaries "dollarised" they can easily forget about the rest of us.
the emphasis as with most companies in the last couple of years is to cut costs and by cut, in our case, i mean drastically reduce.
the fact that the exchange rate has fallen so much has helped these directors make it appear to their american "parents" that these costs have been cut by as much as they wanted to see. unfortunately, it is the labour accounts that are helping with this, because as with other free zone companies, raw materials are usually bought in dollars.
the fact that the top dogs are taking dollars for themselves hardly shows up in the final numbers. they also know that their employees are hardly likely to strike or in fact walk out. these people have families to feed and jobs are not easy to come by.
so, as golo implies, this company at least is benefitting a lot on (....i could say the devaluation of the peso, but i prefer to say....) our sufferring.

i honestly believe that the best chance is that the peso falls so much that we can then shame the company (a famous us brand name) by having them sued for running one of those 'third world sweat shops'.
 

Tony C

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The best thing my father ever showed me was not to ever work for some SOB boss. Be that SOB Boss!

Bochinche,
Let me explain something to you. That US company you work for exists for one thing and one thing only! To Make money! So you have a choice...Quit or shut up and get to work! Nobody forced you to take the job and the devaluation of the Peso is not the fault of the Company. The fault lies in the majority of Dominicans that voted PRD!
Tell us what is the company you work for. I want to know if I own stock in it that way I can complain that their workers don't work hard enough and are overpaid.
 

bochinche

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Tony C said:
Bochinche,
Let me explain something to you. That US company you work for exists for one thing and one thing only! To Make money! So you have a choice...Quit or shut up and get to work! Nobody forced you to take the job and the devaluation of the Peso is not the fault of the Company. The fault lies in the majority of Dominicans that voted PRD!
Tell us what is the company you work for. I want to know if I own stock in it that way I can complain that their workers don't work hard enough and are overpaid.

you're a hard b*stard, tony c. and i mean that in the nicest possible sense.
you would make an excellent director there.
i am trying to take your advice by shutting up, but it's difficult.
i can't quit or i'll have to send the wife out on the streets.
i am just as spineless as the other 99% of people who live here in the dr.