Haiti’s leader resigns as gangs run rampant through country engulfed in crisis

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Another means by which firearms and ammunition are shipped to Haiti is via the Dominican Republic and to a lesser extent Jamaica.119 Media reports and interviews with Haitian customs officials suggest that weapons may first transit through key ports in Santo Domingo such as Haina, before being shipped across border crossings into Haiti, including from Jimani, Comendador and Elias Pina.120 Officials at the Haina port alone reportedly seized over 112,000 “units of firearms and ammunition” in the first six months of 2022,121 most of them heralding from the US.122
Haitian customs officials also periodically intercept contraband at the border – including firearms – intermingled with food products such as beans, flour and rice.123 Firearms and ammunition have been seized at border crossings including Pedernales and Dajabon in Dominican Republic and Belladère, Malpasse and near the Codevi tax free zone in Ouanaminthe in Haiti.124 The extent of cross-border trafficking appears to be linked to the extent of police and customs presence as well as the extent of gang control. For example, Malpasse recently registered a decline in the volume of cross-border transactions due to gang activity, resulting in a surge of illicit goods diverted through Belladère instead.125


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BOX 3. FIREARMS TRAFFICKING AND THE CHURCH
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Haiti was recently rocked by a controversy involving a sophisticated arms trafficking network and the Episcopal Church. In July 2022, Haitian customs authorities in Port-au-Prince intercepted containers addressed to the Episcopal Church and labelled as relief supplies containing semi-automatic weapons, handguns, and cash in Port-au-Prince. The Church itself is not under investigation and has denied any direct involvement in arms trafficking.135
The scandal shines a light on the privileged tax exemption status enjoyed by religious, non-governmental, and certain commercial institutions in Haiti.136 The 1989 amendment to Haiti’s Investment Code allows certain customs privileges for non-governmental organizations and companies operating in designated sectors. However, as rules were increasingly abused by those provided with exemptions, customs officials started more closely scrutinizing bills of lading.
 

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DRUG TRAFFICKING DYNAMICS
Haiti has a long history of involvement in the international drugs trade. The country emerged as a transit hub for cocaine heading to the US, courtesy of the Medellin Cartel in the late 1980s. According to early media reports, Colombian criminal organizations moved dozens of tons of cocaine a year.143 Powerful politicians and local business elites were allegedly involved for decades.144 Over the years, at least a dozen countries have been connected to the drugs trade in Haiti and prominent nationals from Honduras, Mexico and Venezuela were arrested in Haiti by the DEA for their involvement in drug trafficking.145 Most of the cocaine passing through Haiti appears to be sourced from Colombia and the cannabis from Jamaica. Drugs may transit a range of countries and territories before and after arriving in Haiti, including Venezuela, Bahamas, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic and Turks and Caicos.

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And on and on it goes.

I guess one gets the fact that Haiti is a failed and corrupt state.
A state where few have made big money, including stealing billions of international aid over the years.
Not to negate international involvement and criminals profiting through their illicit dealings.

Maybe the "average" uneducated Haitian has always been a victim of circumstance,
Or to some degree participated for a better life or to survive?

It should be clear to most, that no amount of aid for interference will change their way of life.
Anything short of an invasion and forced law and order, lasting a long time to create a new country.
It would take generations to change the mind set.
Doubtless Haitians would still be resentful, blaming the rest of the world.
 

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The cold will make them leave….

…for Florida.
No kidding! Within 3 to 5 years, 15 to 20% of new immigrants leave Canada because of the cold winters. Others leave because of the high cost of housing or lack of recognition of their educational credentials.

I’ve often thought that a long cold winter would probably reduce the civil violence we see in some warmer climates.
 
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UN report: DR major source of weapons to Haiti's gangs

Oct 25, 2023PORT-AU-PRINCE —The United Nations Panel of Experts, in its investigation into high-level government officials linked to the violence in Haiti, said in its report that the Dominican Republic is a primary source of weapons and ammunition for several gangs operating within Haiti. "The trafficking of weapons and ammunition into Haiti is a key driver of the expansion of the gang-controlled ...

I'm not drinking this Kool-Aid.
Haitians are the primary source of weapons to gangs in Haiti.
All the Useless Nobodies are trying to due is shift the blame, create a class of victims and push guilt on the DR with the hopes they'll stop deporting those people who've entered the country illegally.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news...
but it aint happening.

Burn baby burn!
 
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Haiti is a complex web of politics and organized crime.
Drugs, guns, money laundering.

Dominicans, Haitians and international players are involved.
Poor law and order in the DR, no law and order in Haiti.

The DR has been affected and involved for years.
Tourism, beaches and A.I. Resorts and a pretence that the "normal" people who have nothing to do with it will not be affected.
Don't mess with my tropical dreams!
I'm not drinking this Kool-Aid.
Haitians are the primary source of weapons to gangs in Haiti.
All the Useless Nobodies are trying to due is shift the blame, create a class of victims and push guilt on the DR with the hopes they'll stop deporting those people who've entered the country illegally.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news...
but it aint happening.

Burn baby burn!

And who supplies the weapons and kit to the gangs?
Who is running guns and drugs through Haiti and the DR.
Which international entities are involved in politics and organized crime?


Please correct incorrect information in the UN report, with your factual reality.
 
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Haiti is a complex web of politics and organized crime.
Drugs, guns, money laundering.

Dominicans, Haitians and international players are involved.
Poor law and order in the DR, no law and order in Haiti.

The DR has been affected and involved for years.
Tourism, beaches and A.I. Resorts and a pretence that the "normal" people who have nothing to do with it will not be affected.
Don't mess with my tropical dreams!


And who supplies the weapons and kit to the gangs?
Who is running guns and drugs through Haiti and the DR.
Which international entities are involved in politics and organized crime?


Please correct incorrect information in the UN report, with your factual reality.
Exactly my questions especially regarding how guns are entering the DR and then passed into Haiti.

Getting guns and ammunition for people that want a legal firearm is very challenging, so I really wonder who could be doing that in the DR?

UN reports? Useless...
 

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Just saw a report on CNN that Blinken is setting up a panel to discuss the interim government in Haiti,
so they can hold elections,
HAITI'S FUTURE GOVERNANCE FACES STRUGGLE BETWEEN POLITICAL POWER AND GANG INFLUENCE

Blinken met with Caribbean leaders in Jamaica earlier this week, to search for a solution to the crisis.

Officials came up with a plan to install a temporary presidential council responsible for selecting an interim prime minister and a council of ministers that would attempt to chart a new path. By Wednesday, however, the plan was showing some cracks after some political parties signaled their disapproval.

Harvey, who has been stuck in Puerto Rico, said Tuesday he would resign once the council was in place, saying that his government "cannot remain insensitive to this situation."

Pretty soon the current PM will be able to finally resign. OR NOT>

 

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Haiti is a complex web of politics and organized crime.
Drugs, guns, money laundering.

Dominicans, Haitians and international players are involved.
Poor law and order in the DR, no law and order in Haiti.

The DR has been affected and involved for years.
Tourism, beaches and A.I. Resorts and a pretence that the "normal" people who have nothing to do with it will not be affected.
Don't mess with my tropical dreams!


And who supplies the weapons and kit to the gangs?
Who is running guns and drugs through Haiti and the DR.
Which international entities are involved in politics and organized crime?


Please correct incorrect information in the UN report, with your factual reality.
Haitians are the problem.
Haitians are providing the weapons for Haitian gangs.
No correction necessary.
End of story.
 

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No kidding! Within 3 to 5 years, 15 to 20% of new immigrants leave Canada because of the cold winters. Others leave because of the high cost of housing or lack of recognition of their educational credentials.

I’ve often thought that a long cold winter would probably reduce the civil violence we see in some warmer climates.
A cousin (died a few years ago), he always said his most favorite country to live was Canada, but he couldn’t take the winters over there. He said it just like that. He lived in Canada for a few years.

He lived back in Moca the last years of his life and, quite frankly, after a while back in the DR he didn’t liked it. Even regretted having fought during the Civil War of 1965. Actually, his exact words were “este país es una m… y yo pelié por este país.”
 
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I am hoping that the OP joins in on discussions with other threads. Given his extensive background, contacts, political knowledge, it would be great to hear some of his opinions. Share some of his knowledge. Many have little interest in business opportunities in the DR due to past experiences and firsthand knowledge of businesses failing. Given the OP's social circle/background/contacts (based on credentials he posted), I am sure he has a wealth of knowledge right there for business opportunities.

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Haiti, why is it not important?
By Geovanny Vicente Romero
22:40 ET(02:40 GMT) April 17, 2019

Editor's note: Geovanny Vicente Romero is a lawyer and political scientist, with experience as a professor and advisor on public policies and governance. He is a political strategist and government communications consultant. He is currently completing a master's degree in Political Communication and Governance at George Washington University. He is founder of the Center for Public Policies, Development and Leadership RD (CPDL-RD). Follow him on Twitter: @GeovannyVicentR. The opinions expressed in this article are solely those of the author.

(CNN Spanish) -- The question that serves as the title for this analysis may seem tendentious, if not idle. However, it is the same question I ask myself when I think about all the problems affecting the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere. This extreme poverty that I just pointed out may be, in part, the result of the indifference suffered by the nation that shares the same island with the Dominican Republic, the fastest growing economy in Latin America and which in 2018 had a surprising growth rate. , 7% according to the World Bank.

Unlike some Central American countries, which largely have means of local production, in the case of Haiti it seems that the citizen has no other option than to emigrate. On the other hand, Central America relies heavily on remittances and, in some countries, this item constitutes their main source of income, generating foreign currency easily because their citizens constantly arrive by land to the United States. It is not the same story for some Haitians, since contemplating emigration to the North is a real challenge since, among other things, they must face the fury of the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean Sea with a low probability of reaching the desired destination since when They do not fall victim to the shipwrecks that fragile boats suffer, they are apprehended upon arrival by the coast guard.

It should not surprise us that the Dominican Republic has the second largest Haitian diaspora, after the United States, since the reasons for this phenomenon lie in the Dominican economy itself and, of course, in geography since it is enough to cross a border that at first glance seems non-existent. This emigration is not new, already at the time of the US occupation of Haiti and the Dominican Republic in 1916, there was an important flow of Haitians to the eastern part of the island, who were brought by US capital consortiums to work. as braceros and in this way reduce costs.

Haiti may matter little in the global debate and within the regional neighborhood, since it is the poor, black neighbor without oil, but the reality is that it matters for all that and much more. Today it is the poorest country in America, as we have said, but in the past it was one of the richest colonies on the planet and the most profitable in the Caribbean, producing 75% of the world's sugar production by the year 1789. the same year as the French Revolution. Let's call a spade a spade: they're black! That blackness with totally normal skin in a multicolored world, but "abnormal" in a world that continues to reproduce the same stereotypes that generate the stigma of the "ugly duckling" when something is different from what our mind has already legitimized as "normal", It has probably worked against them in their future when we see that historically some countries even opted for the whitening of the population and not for their own identity and the richness of diversity.

Haiti does not produce oil, therefore, it is a natural importer of crude oil and does not attract interest to its country. Since their birth as a republic, they have been so busy solving their own problems that they have not had time to fully integrate into the global conversation, except when a disaster arises that once again condemns them to prolonged poverty. As we have said, it was a very lucrative colony that not only produced sugar, but also coffee and other products. Unfortunately, the current deforestation originated progressively and systematically in the exploitation model that this part of the island suffered. Today a satellite photograph can show an arid image in contrast to the greenery of the Dominican Republic, which had a different fate. They say that people have the governments they deserve, but the reality is that citizens can build their government myths and forget forever about that defeatism.

The black people of Haiti, tired of slavery and exploitation, achieved independence from the first Latin American nation more than 200 years ago. So, let's not look for the oldest black republic in the world in Africa, it is here in the region, under our noses since 1804. Therefore, this feat makes Haiti the second oldest republic in the Western Hemisphere, only behind the United States. United States that became independent in 1776.

When we take stock of those two centenaries of republican life, we reach an unequivocal conclusion for Haiti: two centuries of poverty, political instability, cruel and long dictatorships, little international aid and as if that were not enough, natural disasters that leave the country destroyed. The future is not encouraging, in fact, it never has been. The blackness of their skin made them their first bad move with the commercial blockade and the isolation they suffered from the nations of the world who saw in Haiti a precedent that could be repeated with their own slaves. It was not until 1862 when the United States recognized Haiti's independence.

Haiti was born in debt since its independence not only cost tears, sweat and a lot of blood, it also cost a lot of money for a nation that was taking its first steps alone: In 1804, Haiti paid France a fine of 150,000,000 francs (about US $21,000 million today), payments that were made in five annual installments.

The great nations that today help insufficiently and promise help that never ends up arriving, are in some cases, the same ones that benefited from the enormous wealth of the black nation. It is paradoxical that the Dominican Republic being a country that was occupied and subjected to the Haitian yoke from 1822 to 1844, is the one that contributes the most directly and indirectly with the Haitian citizens who live on its side, and who go to Dominican hospitals daily. to perform births and treat different health conditions.

It is a shame that the fate of Haiti only concerns us when a vicious hurricane or a devastating earthquake destroys that country. I remember that for the 2010 earthquake, it was the Dominicans - of whom we are largely black too, but we don't fully know it - who were the first to help the neighboring nation in its worst moment. Of course, for geographical reasons, the Dominican brigades were the first to arrive, but this support was maintained over time with sustained food assistance, donation of mobile kitchens, and culminated with the donation from the Henri Christophe Haitian State University in 2012.

Today the international press gives little attention to the protests that are taking place in the streets of Haiti as a result of citizen fatigue with corruption, the same discontent that has recently generated a change of prime minister. We must pay more attention to the issues that are happening there, such as the one related to the withdrawal of the current UN police mission in Haiti (Minujusth), a withdrawal decreed by the UN Security Council. Russia and the Dominican Republic, which occupies a non-permanent seat in said body, abstained from that decision. The Dominican diplomatic decision was correct by abstaining. The proximity and migratory relationship of the Dominican Republic with Haiti means that any decision, for or against the measure, is not interpreted in its correct dimension. Haiti needs genuine support from the international community and needs to be given the "fish" it was promised and, along with it, taught how to fish.

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Geovanny,

The international community has given billions to Haiti.

It has been stolen by corrupt Haitians in power.
Corrupt Haitians in power have prohibited any advancement of their own country for greed.

As I have mentioned,
There is a documented international web of political and organized crime active for profit in Haiti.
Numerous facts are internationally documented and indisputable.

Further do not forget the involvement of DR government officials and criminals in the Haiti connection for profit.
That is not to negate that help has also been extended by the DR.

Haitians are quick to blame history and everyone else.
They do not see any fault in their inability to establish government, law and order, and their inability to re-build their country.
Many other poor Nations have done so after civil wars, wars and destruction.

As to calling a spade:
However, the 5 percent of the world population that inhabits North America in no way reflects the racial mix of the world, in which only 16 percent are white. That’s about 1.19 billion people out of a total world population of 7.4 billion. And it’s predicted that by 2060 only 10 percent of the world will be white. There are 3.33 billion Asians, who constitute 45 percent of the world population, and 1.26 billion Indians, who constitute 17 percent. That’s 4.59 billion Asians and Indians combined, making up 62 percent of the world population — almost two-thirds.

Power blocks of the past are shifting.
Give it time.
The British, Mongol, Russian, Qing Dynasty, Spanish, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire, Alexander, all had their time.

Maybe one day Haiti will have a government for Haiti, to better Haitians lives.
First will come the desire to do so!

 
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