Jose OShay owner retiring!

Meemselle

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There tends to be a fair amount hidden from the owners as well, esp if there's beer on tap! Skimming has many forms. Bartenders will bring their own bottle of a top shelf booze then pocket the cash from it. They can pick up an extra $100/night easy with $5 shots of something like Jaegermeister. Register and booze are right the next day. Very hard to spot without a POS system and cameras. Prob one reason some bars here have the bartenders get the bottles through a caged window.

AHA! But the real truth lies in the amount of coffee the staff drinks. I refer you to Cabarete Diaries.
 

frank12

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This is a little off topic, but i'd like to address some of the crazy things that Big Frank had to contend with over the decades while owning bars & restaurants.

People would come in sometimes and say things like, "Why are you charging so much for a fuc7%ing beer! My god, we can go across the street or down the beach and get a beer for 40-pesos less! You must be out of your fuc&^%ing mind!"

Big Frank would just smile. Sometimes, depending on how much scotch and Viagra he'd consumed, he'd throw out one of his sarcastic response, but mostly he just brushed it aside.

Everyone is on a budget. I'm on a budget, and everyone around me is on a budget. But what some people on a budget try to do over and over throughout the years was browbeat, or "shame" Big Frank into lowering his prices. It was as if to say to him, "Listen, this is what I want to pay for a beer, and you are a stupid man if you do not charge what we want you to charge!"

You see this everyday. People will go into a restaurant, supermarket, bar, hotel, brothel and say, "Look, so and so down the street is only charging this amount for a blow job! I want to sit here and watch my game, but i don't want to pay more for a blow job then what i pay so and so down the street!"

People's logic dumbfounded me. Really, its hard to shock me. But some of the logic and reasoning that people use sometimes, sends me into cardiac arrest. I have to keep heart defibrillators at my side at all times when i'm at work. But for Big Frank--who has been in the business more than 150-years, he heard it all before. He was a Master at brushing aside bad logic and reasoning. Not me, i was like, "Who and the f&%^ck taught you how to reason!?"

Big Frank was, and still is, the gentleman who, despite listening to people come in and complain about the prices, just sat back and observed people. He was a student of people and personalities. He loved watching people. He loved telling stories. He loved pussy and Gran Marnier too, but that's another story. The man possessed thousands of bar, restaurant, and people stories that go back to the early 1900's. He's larger then life. He's a raconteur--a cross between Oscar Wilde, Dorothy Parker, and a badly dressed drag queen.

I loved the man like a father.

Frank
 
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As you know Frank, I sat with you, Big Frank, and Alabama a couple times and listened to many of Franks stories and how he defended the "evening ladies" who were just out to support a family, mostly I suspect he enjoyed supporting those families ;)
 

markryan

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IF his prices were to high he would not have been so successful. The market is funny like that.
 

zoomzx11

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Big Frank is an unusual person and did a great job making the restaurant a success. Hopefully the new owners will follow his plan and not make too many changes such that the business will continue. Its not easy having a profitable business in this country. Not like back in Kansas. Here there are many more heartbreaks and pitfalls that do not exist in the real world. Best of luck to new owners and Frank 12.
 

SKY

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I only want to know if I can still get Corned Beef and Cabbage from the new owner. Easily the best in the Caribbean.
 

Expat13

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Has the new O shays reopened? I believe its called Aqua something. Frank, whats the scoop lets here the details?
 

RV429

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Frank has posted on another thread that Rocky's Aqua will open December 30 barring any further delay due to screwdriver shortages.

Has the new O shays reopened? I believe its called Aqua something. Frank, whats the scoop lets here the details?
 

frank12

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I was wrong about the opening date. The opening date is this Friday, the 23rd of December. Rocky needs to take off on the 30th back to the states. I misunderstood what he meant. Anyway, Rocky's Aqua opens this Friday, the day after tomorrow.

I will post the menu later when i get back home. I'm in Norway still.

Frank
 

Expat13

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I was wrong about the opening date. The opening date is this Friday, the 23rd of December. Rocky needs to take off on the 30th back to the states. I misunderstood what he meant. Anyway, Rocky's Aqua opens this Friday, the day after tomorrow.

I will post the menu later when i get back home. I'm in Norway still.

Frank

When are you back?
 

Derfish

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This is a little off topic, but i'd like to address some of the crazy things that Big Frank had to contend with over the decades while owning bars & restaurants.

People would come in sometimes and say things like, "Why are you charging so much for a fuc7%ing beer! My god, we can go across the street or down the beach and get a beer for 40-pesos less! You must be out of your fuc&^%ing mind!"

Big Frank would just smile. Sometimes, depending on how much scotch and Viagra he'd consumed, he'd throw out one of his sarcastic response, but mostly he just brushed it aside.

Everyone is on a budget. I'm on a budget, and everyone around me is on a budget. But what some people on a budget try to do over and over throughout the years was browbeat, or "shame" Big Frank into lowering his prices. It was as if to say to him, "Listen, this is what I want to pay for a beer, and you are a stupid man if you do not charge what we want you to charge!"

You see this everyday. People will go into a restaurant, supermarket, bar, hotel, brothel and say, "Look, so and so down the street is only charging this amount for a blow job! I want to sit here and watch my game, but i don't want to pay more for a blow job then what i pay so and so down the street!"

People's logic dumbfounded me. Really, its hard to shock me. But some of the logic and reasoning that people use sometimes, sends me into cardiac arrest. I have to keep heart defibrillators at my side at all times when i'm at work. But for Big Frank--who has been in the business more than 150-years, he heard it all before. He was a Master at brushing aside bad logic and reasoning. Not me, i was like, "Who and the f&%^ck taught you how to reason!?"

Big Frank was, and still is, the gentleman who, despite listening to people come in and complain about the prices, just sat back and observed people. He was a student of people and personalities. He loved watching people. He loved telling stories. He loved pussy and Gran Marnier too, but that's another story. The man possessed thousands of bar, restaurant, and people stories that go back to the early 1900's. He's larger then life. He's a raconteur--a cross between Oscar Wilde, Dorothy Parker, and a badly dressed drag queen.

I loved the man like a father.

Frank

One of my brothers ran a plumbing supply shop> His competitor down the street went broke. No shortage of new customers for my brother and they all asked how come he charged more than the guy who just went broke. My brother soon asked those with that attitude why they think the other guy went broke.
Der Fish
 

Daniel Arsenault

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As a Canadian I spent many nights at big Frank's bar in the past 10 years and never had an issue with paying the bill as presented and I believe I was a descent tipper. There's a reason the bar outlasted others bars, perhaps good management, good staff, owning the property, special events, sports, sometimes eye candy around the bar (lol), good food and drinks. I certainly hope the new owner is able to create a similar atmosphere as the previous bar and is bringing some of the staff back as this could affect how many loyal customers return, I know it will for me.

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Garyexpat

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As a Canadian I spent many nights at big Frank's bar in the past 10 years and never had an issue with paying the bill as presented and I believe I was a descent tipper. There's a reason the bar outlasted others bars, perhaps good management, good staff, owning the property, special events, sports, sometimes eye candy around the bar (lol), good food and drinks. I certainly hope the new owner is able to create a similar atmosphere as the previous bar and is bringing some of the staff back as this could affect how many loyal customers return, I know it will for me.

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Good management???? You have to be kidding, they had that bum from Ohio that was always in the back spiking his coffee, running over people with his motorcycle and molesting Norwegians!
 

the gorgon

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Good management???? You have to be kidding, they had that bum from Ohio that was always in the back spiking his coffee, running over people with his motorcycle and molesting Norwegians!

right, Garyexpat. and, when he got done, he would write about in , in sparkling prose.
 

dv8

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As a Canadian I spent many nights at big Frank's bar in the past 10 years and never had an issue with paying the bill as presented and I believe I was a descent tipper.

what does it mean, exactly? that every time you went there you tipped less?

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::devious:

sorry, gonna see myself out now.
 

Tarheel

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Good news for you Daniel. Mary has returned from Canada and will be their barmaid. Also Natti is back as well as several others. I just got back from Cabarete and I saw Rocky entertaining them at the Mojito restaurant a couple of times.



As a Canadian I spent many nights at big Frank's bar in the past 10 years and never had an issue with paying the bill as presented and I believe I was a descent tipper. There's a reason the bar outlasted others bars, perhaps good management, good staff, owning the property, special events, sports, sometimes eye candy around the bar (lol), good food and drinks. I certainly hope the new owner is able to create a similar atmosphere as the previous bar and is bringing some of the staff back as this could affect how many loyal customers return, I know it will for me.

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Daniel Arsenault

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what does it mean, exactly? that every time you went there you tipped less?

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]:cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::cheeky::devious:

sorry, gonna see myself out now.
Decent, but I imagine you knew that's what I meant.

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