The future of Sosua

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the gorgon

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I don't know who's brainstorm that was, but even after Ruta Turistica is complete, it would still take at least an hour via that route - pretty much the same as going straight down from Maimon and getting a little too long for many cruise tours.

I doubt many cruiseship passengers would be interested in a night in Sosua!

i said long ago that upgrading roadways to get tourists to Santiago from Amber Cove is silly. a wealth of data and research has come to the conclusion that cruise ship passengers do not care to venture more than 7 miles from the ship..i think it has to do with the preoccupation with breaking down behind God's back, and getting left by the ship..
 
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cavok

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Just got back from Cabarete Beach. Not sure exactly what they're doing, but they do seem to have somewhat of a handle on things. There were quite a few families there - a half dozen or more kids under 12 and numerous kids under 18. Very relaxed, casual atmosphere very few chicas in sight except inside Ojo/Lax Bar and most of them looked accompanied..

After midnight, things do change some, but it's no where as near as "in your face" as Sosua and, by then, all the families have gone. Proof that the worlds can coexist.
 
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Ecoman1949

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Why bother as this area would only be for sex tourists. I doubt Dominicanos shop the current Pedro Clisante for the skanks that inhabit the area now. Yes, I called them skanks as they have to be the worse of the worse.

Bring in two truck loads of PN and Cestur on a weekend. Let them check every girl's ID. Don't have one then off to the slammer for the night. Also rendomly check the sex tourists and expat hoe mongers for ID. Don't have one then off to the slammer for the night.

Word will spread like wild fire on the message boards and job complete.

Easy me thinks............

The police are part of the problem. Any women they arrest spend a night in jail where they are forced to provide sexual favours to police staff if they can’t afford to pay the fines(bribes) to get out of jail. They are subjected to verbal and sexual abuse by people in uniform who are supposed to treat them fairly. Many policemen supplement their income with bribes from prostitutes. They are tough ladies and survivors. It’s not realistic too think they will just go away, even if a new legal initiative is in place.
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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How would you feel if you were stopped going to the colmado without ID and were hauled off to the slammer?

Not supposed to walk down the street without ID here or in most other countries these days. Much has been discussed previously about the need for tourists to have a copy of their passport with them should they be asked for it. If you get hauled off to the slammer for having no ID, that's your fault.
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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Not supposed to walk down the street without ID here or in most other countries these days. Much has been discussed previously about the need for tourists to have a copy of their passport with them should they be asked for it. If you get hauled off to the slammer for having no ID, that's your fault.

This only happens to morons. Like folks that don't speak Spanish except for Grassy Ass and Poor Favor (you know, like the folks that post on Everything..[name your North Coast town] looking for a good proctologist)
 
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Not supposed to walk down the street without ID here or in most other countries these days. Much has been discussed previously about the need for tourists to have a copy of their passport with them should they be asked for it. If you get hauled off to the slammer for having no ID, that's your fault.

no law in U.S that says you need to carry i.d . If I am walking down the street here I NEVER carry i.d. Also I do not think any tourist anywhere here is getting arrested for not carrying i.d
 
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the gorgon

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no law in U.S that says you need to carry i.d . If I am walking down the street here I NEVER carry i.d. Also I do not think any tourist anywhere here is getting arrested for not carrying i.d

absolutely true..
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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no law in U.S that says you need to carry i.d . If I am walking down the street here I NEVER carry i.d. Also I do not think any tourist anywhere here is getting arrested for not carrying i.d

Correct, there exists no law. It is, however, an excuse to shake you down. Like i said, if you don't peaky pany my love and you are looking for almond milk on everything cab
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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no law in U.S that says you need to carry i.d . If I am walking down the street here I NEVER carry i.d. Also I do not think any tourist anywhere here is getting arrested for not carrying i.d

I wrote, "most countries". While walking around Sosua, you are not in the US, no one said anyone was being arrested for not having their ID just pointing out to badpiece33 what the written DR law states, not how it will be enforced on any particular day.

There are circumstances in the USA when the police can ask for verifiable ID and if you don't provide it, or cannot provide it, you may be detained while your identity is ascertained. Specifically, in a situation where the police reasonably believe that someone has or is about to commit a crime.

Just for the record, walking down Pedro Clisante at 23:30 and speaking with a friendly female cultural representative would be more than enough grounds to reasonably assume that this person might be about to commit the crime of pandering, which was recently reported as being an item of concern for the local authorities. In this circumstance, if the police chose to get involved, how much do you want to bet they ask for ID either before or after asking for money?
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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I wrote, "most countries". While walking around Sosua, you are not in the US, no one said anyone was being arrested for not having their ID just pointing out to badpiece33 what the written DR law states, not how it will be enforced on any particular day.

There are circumstances in the USA when the police can ask for verifiable ID and if you don't provide it, or cannot provide it, you may be detained while your identity is ascertained. Specifically, in a situation where the police reasonably believe that someone has or is about to commit a crime.

Just for the record, walking down Pedro Clisante at 23:30 and speaking with a friendly female cultural representative would be more than enough grounds to reasonably assume that this person might be about to commit the crime of pandering, which was recently reported as being an item of concern for the local authorities. In this circumstance, if the police chose to get involved, how much do you want to bet they ask for ID either before or after asking for money?

you're killing us, Cdn. You're killing me with with your eloquent tiguere wanna-be style. You have good knowledge, we see that. Can you post something funny once and a while sir? Who is this post for? a frat boy from redneck america who has to post on websites when looking for milk? maybe the backpackers who were here for 60 days and published a website for total knowledge on DR
 
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Seamonkey

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Not supposed to walk down the street without ID here or in most other countries these days. Much has been discussed previously about the need for tourists to have a copy of their passport with them should they be asked for it. If you get hauled off to the slammer for having no ID, that's your fault.

All you need is a picture of it on your cell. No hard copy needed.
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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Firstly, for the poster who right off the mark who had to point out incorrectly that there are no laws pertaining to identifying oneself to the police in the USA. Not sure why the poster thought that relevant, but they did and they were wrong.

Then subsequently for those who latched onto the errant observation and began a divergent stream of thought.

I continue to note that some consistently have difficulty comprehending my meaning when reading my rather straightforward grade 12 level posts, I know I'd lose a whole pile more if I tried to implant some humour - baby steps...
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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All you need is a picture of it on your cell. No hard copy needed.

That may very well be, I've never been asked except while driving here at the roadside checks. I'm pretty sure a picture constitutes "a copy" in the eyes of many.

One observation I have made here, handing anything to the police doesn't necessarily mean that you will be getting it back right away. For me I prefer to hand them a photocopy of something rather than my phone, or my original document. Less temptation for the discussion to turn in the direction of how hot it is that day while they are holding something I wish to have returned.
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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Firstly, for the poster who right off the mark had to point out incorrectly that there are no laws pertaining to identifying oneself to the police in the USA. Not sure why the poster thought that relevant, but they did and they were wrong.

Then subsequently for those who latched onto the errant observation and began a divergent stream of thought.

I continue to note that some consistently have difficulty comprehending my meaning when reading my rather straightforward grade 12 level posts, I know I'd lose a whole pile more if I tried to implant some humour - baby steps...

There is no law or statute in the Dominican Republic that requires you to walk around with valid ID. Furthermore, if there existed such a thing, the only reason to enforce it would be scam an old gringo man who sticks out like a sore thumb out of a quick 2mil. In 30 years, when I reach AARP level, I hope to write like you. Until then I will post 12-grade level material that is actually helpful
 
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Firstly, for the poster who right off the mark who had to point out incorrectly that there are no laws pertaining to identifying oneself to the police in the USA. Not sure why the poster thought that relevant, but they did and they were wrong.

Then subsequently for those who latched onto the errant observation and began a divergent stream of thought.

I continue to note that some consistently have difficulty comprehending my meaning when reading my rather straightforward grade 12 level posts, I know I'd lose a whole pile more if I tried to implant some humour - baby steps...

nothing personal Sir, this aint surgery. You want to carry i.d here, USA, Canada, cool. If you are not driving here I say no need. I live, work and travel all over the island, never ever was asked for i.d FYI its not against the law to talk to a chica on any street here no matter what town you are in. Actually its not against the law to walk up to a chica and say "how much". No need to be paranoid here with I.D , passport etc, that's all Im saying. Mentioning involvement in a crime adds a whole new dynamic to the conversation
 
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not to go too far off course; there is never ever anytime in the U.S unless you have committed a crime , that you need to show the P.D i.d,.
They can certainly ask, and you can certainly say no.
Here they do conduct random checks when you are driving around, I am fully documented and vehicle is properly registered so no to many probs other than the usual inconvenience
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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not to go too far off course; there is never ever anytime in the U.S unless you have committed a crime , that you need to show the P.D i.d,.
They can certainly ask, and you can certainly say no.
Here they do conduct random checks when you are driving around, I am fully documented and vehicle is properly registered so no to many probs other than the usual inconvenience

correct. we appreciate when you pay cash. enjoy your stay.
 
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slowmo

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It seems to me that many of these threads get derailed by people looking for the worst in others. I visit Sosua a couple of times a year and have no problem in finding good folks, expats and chicas alike. Or at the very least, interesting people.
 
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El Rey de Mangu

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It seems to me that many of these threads get derailed by people looking for the worst in others. I visit Sosua a couple of times a year and have no problem in finding good folks, expats and chicas alike. Or at the very least, interesting people.

another visitor who knows less than nothing. I try to find the better in clisante as well. whether it's a 500 bag or a 500 girl, they are solid people.
 
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