The future of Sosua

[windeguy]

Got a cousin in Philippines right now. But my medicare that I paid into for half a century won't cover there any more than it does here.

I am afraid your medicare coverage on islands that are US Territories is going to be remarkably limited. PR is probably your best option if that is your highest priority item. Five territories (American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands) are permanently inhabited.

I see people that retire in the DR and then have to leave here at the end of their retirement for this very reason of medical care.

 

[ljmesg]

I am not a tourist because I am a legal resident. I live here full time and have no other legal residence anywhere else in the world. Where my money comes from is not part of the definition of what a tourist is.

Here is the definition of a tourist:

noun
1.
a person who is travelling or visiting a place for pleasure.

A person who arrives as a tourist in the DR and stays longer than their 30 day tourist card allows is also not a tourist, but rather an illegal alien.

How many tourists do you know that have driver's and firearms licenses issued in the countries that they are in?

Permanent residents are also not guests.

I find it hard to believe that someone would dispute this.

You are parsing and mincing. Your money is foreign money regardless of your citizen status. The exact same money as a 6 man Sosua junket wearing FuBu sports gear incoming from New Jersey. Puhleease.

 

[bob saunders]

You are parsing and mincing. Your money is foreign money regardless of your citizen status. The exact same money as a 6 man Sosua junket wearing FuBu sports gear incoming from New Jersey. Puhleease.

What if he makes his money here. I have foreign income but I also have Dominican income. I am a citizen. You are the one parsing.

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Where your money comes from has nothing to do with being a tourist or not. This is yet another example of people haphazardly redefining words to suit their own meaning.

Language can be specific and precise if people would stop willfully corrupting it.

A resident is just that, a resident not in transit.
A citizen is a citizen, without caveat.

 

[jd426]

I am not a tourist because I am a legal resident. I live here full time and have no other legal residence anywhere else in the world. Where my money comes from is not part of the definition of what a tourist is.

Here is the definition of a tourist:

noun
1.
a person who is travelling or visiting a place for pleasure.

A person who arrives as a tourist in the DR and stays longer than their 30 day tourist card allows is also not a tourist, but rather an illegal alien.

How many tourists do you know that have driver's and firearms licenses issued in the countries that they are in?

Permanent residents are also not guests.

I find it hard to believe that someone would dispute this.

You are really not GRASPING this ??

LMAO

Really ?

too funny...

So the ? again remains ..
1)- WHERE IS the INDUSTRY which employs & Pays you Located ???
2)- other than your Pension Check , what sources of income do you have from the DR ?


you are a LONG TERM TOURIST .. from a financial perspective ..

Now , IF you had worked the last 20 years in like a Dominican Warehouse, as the Manager lets say , and just now recently RETIRED , and THEY were the source of your INCOME for the last 20 years , then YES.. of course , you would be an American Born / Dominican Resident, Retiree. NOT a Tourist ..

And who knows maybe you are .. but you have not said so ..

 

[Big]

Yes, thank you, The thread was about Sosua and Sosua dollars. Not if you are a retiree from Atlanta living in Bani

 

[jd426]

I'm still waiting to be Schooled on which other " Industries" exist in SOSUA ,other than Tourist Dollar Hotels, Restaurants, Bars , Rental , Grocery , Shops , etc etc .. ??
I suppose New Housing Construction could be considered one , but Rentals are NOT , imho..
maybe fishing ? not really much there.

see below for what constitutes an " industry" in the DR
such as
Agrigulture : Coffee, Tabacco, Cocoa , Sugar Cane etc
Fishing
Forestry
Mining
Animals or Livestock

and yes.. then see TOURISM. # 1 , undisputed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Dominican_Republic

 

[Derfish]

I'm still waiting to be Schooled on which other " Industries" exist in SOSUA ,other than Tourist Dollar Hotels, Restaurants, Bars , Rental , Grocery , Shops , etc etc .. ??
I suppose New Housing Construction could be considered one , but Rentals are NOT , imho..
maybe fishing ? not really much there.

see below for what constitutes an " industry" in the DR
such as
Agrigulture : Coffee, Tabacco, Cocoa , Sugar Cane etc
Fishing
Forestry
Mining
Animals or Livestock

and yes.. then see TOURISM. # 1 , undisputed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_Dominican_Republic

I personally believe that hookerism is the biggest industry in Sosua. I had a pair of girls from New York who had paid me to drive them around for a few days. One day we went to Sosua. I had probably mentioned the hookers more than I should have when one of my clients asked me "What makes you call them hookers? Probably just college girls dressed like that for fun." We were near a bench. I suggested the girls wait there and I walked a half a block away and was accosted 4 times within 10 minutes. Then came back and assured the New York girls that, yes the street was full of hookers, in fact the main industry of Sosua is hookers!
Derfish

 

[jd426]

I personally believe that hookerism is the biggest industry in Sosua. I had a pair of girls from New York who had paid me to drive them around for a few days. One day we went to Sosua. I had probably mentioned the hookers more than I should have when one of my clients asked me "What makes you call them hookers? Probably just college girls dressed like that for fun." We were near a bench. I suggested the girls wait there and I walked a half a block away and was accosted 4 times within 10 minutes. Then came back and assured the New York girls that, yes the street was full of hookers, in fact the main industry of Sosua is hookers!
Derfish

or , Maybe you are just an attractive Man , who Dominican College Girls Gravitate towards ... lol

So , these NY gals sat on the Bench , and watched as you walked, and girls came up to you... this finally convinced them ?
too funny ..

 

[ctrob]

I walked a half a block away and was accosted 4 times within 10 minutes.

Yeah, but c'mon der, we know what a snappy dresser you are

 

[windeguy]

You are parsing and mincing. Your money is foreign money regardless of your citizen status. The exact same money as a 6 man Sosua junket wearing FuBu sports gear incoming from New Jersey. Puhleease.

If you and others properly explained themselves as to what you meant, there would be no misunderstanding. If you want to call the money I spend of foreign origin, then yes that is true.

A legal resident is not a tourist nor a guest.

 

[windeguy]

You are really not GRASPING this ??

LMAO

Really ?

too funny...

So the ? again remains ..
1)- WHERE IS the INDUSTRY which employs & Pays you Located ???
2)- other than your Pension Check , what sources of income do you have from the DR ?


you are a LONG TERM TOURIST .. from a financial perspective ..

Now , IF you had worked the last 20 years in like a Dominican Warehouse, as the Manager lets say , and just now recently RETIRED , and THEY were the source of your INCOME for the last 20 years , then YES.. of course , you would be an American Born / Dominican Resident, Retiree. NOT a Tourist ..

And who knows maybe you are .. but you have not said so ..

I don't grasp it because nobody I have ever heard of has called a legal temporary or permanent resident in a country a tourist regardless of their source of income. That is because a legal resident is not a tourist. Not by anyone's definition but a couple of people in this thread. Certainly not by any legal definition. If you and a couple of others want to continue calling me a tourist, go ahead, but I won't agree with you on that point because you are wrong.

 

[windeguy]

You are really not GRASPING this ??

LMAO

Really ?

too funny...

So the ? again remains ..
1)- WHERE IS the INDUSTRY which employs & Pays you Located ???
2)- other than your Pension Check , what sources of income do you have from the DR ?


you are a LONG TERM TOURIST .. from a financial perspective ..

Now , IF you had worked the last 20 years in like a Dominican Warehouse, as the Manager lets say , and just now recently RETIRED , and THEY were the source of your INCOME for the last 20 years , then YES.. of course , you would be an American Born / Dominican Resident, Retiree. NOT a Tourist ..

And who knows maybe you are .. but you have not said so ..

A legal resident is not a tourist. Nor is an illegal alien who overstays the legal period of their being a tourist.

Yes, thank you, The thread was about Sosua and Sosua dollars. Not if you are a retiree from Atlanta living in Bani

Yes it is and the future seems to be shifting toward retirees who live here, either as legal residents or as illegal aliens, while tourism decreases.

 

[Tamborista]

I don't grasp it because nobody I have ever heard of has called a legal temporary or permanent resident in a country a tourist regardless of their source of income. That is because a legal resident is not a tourist. Not by anyone's definition but a couple of people in this thread. Certainly not by any legal definition. If you and a couple of others want to continue calling me a tourist, go ahead, but I won't agree with you on that point.

If you keep feeding the trolls Windy, they keep coming back for more.

 

[windeguy]

You are really not GRASPING this ??

LMAO

Really ?

too funny...

So the ? again remains ..
1)- WHERE IS the INDUSTRY which employs & Pays you Located ???
2)- other than your Pension Check , what sources of income do you have from the DR ?


you are a LONG TERM TOURIST .. from a financial perspective ..

Now , IF you had worked the last 20 years in like a Dominican Warehouse, as the Manager lets say , and just now recently RETIRED , and THEY were the source of your INCOME for the last 20 years , then YES.. of course , you would be an American Born / Dominican Resident, Retiree. NOT a Tourist ..

And who knows maybe you are .. but you have not said so ..

Yes, thank you, The thread was about Sosua and Sosua dollars. Not if you are a retiree from Atlanta living in Bani

You are parsing and mincing. Your money is foreign money regardless of your citizen status. The exact same money as a 6 man Sosua junket wearing FuBu sports gear incoming from New Jersey. Puhleease.

A tourist is someone visiting. A legal resident or an illegal alien living anywhere in the world are not tourists.

 

[windeguy]

If you keep feeding the trolls Windy, they keep coming back for more.

They sure do. My mistake.

 

[kcdmps]

I noticed that there is a million $ housing development in Sosua. It seems very unusual to see something like that in a small, third world country, town. The people who live there are probably influential foreigners with a lot of clout regarding the situation here in Sosua.

 

[Big]

They sure do. My mistake.

Yup, you did not follow the thread and went off on a tangent. We all do sometimes.

 

[windeguy]

Yup, you did not follow the thread and went off on a tangent. We all do sometimes.

Agreed to an extent. When someone posts something that is incorrect, I tend to respond about that error.

kcdmps, I see you have noticed what is exactly my point. Quite a few homes already built and more being built all the time. That is "the future" of Sosua (and Cabarete) that I see as well. More full time expats, more vacation homes for Dominicans. More homes for 6 month snowbirds as well. All that will have more sway than the weekly tourists.

That said, I the amount of influence those people will have over the local governments remains to be seen. I suspect they will not be the tail that will wag that dog (and hold little real influence during my life time)

 

[Salsafan]

About industry in Sosua : there's the cheese gouda from Sosua, which you get even in Las terrenas. Think the milk products have a very long tradition in Sosua.