Somebody help my little girl, please!!!!!

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desperate said:
No, it wasn't difficult, when she was born, the father agreed to and signed for her Canadian citizenship.
OK, I was under the impression that the child had to be in Canada to apply and obtain citizenship.
 

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Oh well...

desperate said:
It is my understanding that you can only have dual citizenship, Dominican by birth and Canadian from me. Are you saying he could take her to Switzerland?

My children were born here.
They have German passports. My wife is Dominican, that's where the Dominican citizenship would come from, so far not issued in a paper.
Still my wife could prevent me from taking the children overseas without her consent.
I know of an Austrian, however, who took his daughter out of the country on a Easter holiday, knowing that checks would be fewer...

m'frog
 

HOWMAR

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I dont quite understand how this child has never been in Canada and was born in the DR yet has Canadian citizenship.
Most countries will automatically grant citizenship to children born to their own citizens abroad. Much easier obtaining a mother's citizenship than a father's as maternity is easier to prove than paternity.


Beads said:
If you have proof of her Canadian citizenship and her birth certificate a passport and visa can pretty easily be obtained by being there so you can taker her back to Canada. Also lets just say "with a little cash anything can be done in the DR" and leave it at that.
Not so easy as Dominican Immigration would prevent the child leaving without the father's consent as they would suspect the father may be Dominican.
 

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We obtained her citizenship from the embassy in santo domingo while we were together living in the DR. It is not a problem for me to get her here, the problem is what good will I be to her if I am arrested and in jail for "kidnapping" her against the court order he has obtained (illegally albeit but he still has it)

The fastest and most logical way for me to deal with this is to obtain (somehow, legally or not) the same kind of order he has, temporary custody from a DR court. I would be more than willing to have him come here and have our case heard before the Canadian court. If I just take her and try to have it dealt with here, he will have charged and she will be sent back to him. How traumatic do you think that will be for her? Thinking in one moment she if safe here with me to be ripped away and sent back to the molestor. I think that would be the final straw for her. All of this was told to me by a Canadian lawyer who said, you need an order from there, then you can bring here without being charged and fight in the Canadian court. As disgusting as he is, apparantly he has bought himself some rights, through this Domincan ordered he obtained.
 

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Father is Important

rellosk said:
It's probably similar to a child born from a US parent. Regardless where the child is born, they are entitled to US citizenship.

For children fathered by a German the law is simple:
German Father = Child is German.
Anywhere.

Whether it applies to the Mother also, I do not know.
And I don't care either. :laugh:

m'frog
 

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In the US it is the "land where the child was born." If the child is born in the US although parents are not US citizens - when the child is 18 he/she can claim US citizenship.
 

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Here is what I will help you with. Please contact Fabio Guzman, he is well known here and he studied in Canada and speaks English very well. If he can't help you I trust he will lead you in the right direction. Phone numbers and emails on his site.

http://www.drlawyer.com/
 

HOWMAR

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Even with custody, you may still not be able to remove the child from the DR without the father's consent.
This applies to anyone under 18.

From a Dominican Immigration memo.

Parents:
1. If both parents are outside the country, they should go to the nearest Dominican Consulate and have a Consulate Authorization (Poder Consular) for the child's (children's ) exit from the DR. This has to be sent here along with photocopies of two ID documents for each parent.
2. If one of the parents is in the DR, this person should have a notarized document drawn up that authorizes the exit from DR territory of the minor (s). The Notarized act must then be "legalized" by the Attorney General's office (either in Santo Domingo or in Santiago). In Santiago, the District Attorney (Procuradur?a), and this is located on the 4th floor of the Palace of Justice. Two photocopies of the parent's c?dual and /or passport are also required.
3. If the mother is a single parent, she should have a sworn statement of her single status, legalized at the District Attorney's Office (la Procuradur?a) along with two copies of the C?dula and or passport. If the child will be travelling with a third party, an authorization to travel with that person must be "legalized, and notarized" by the same office.
4. If the single person is a widow(er) the corresponding Death Certificate should be produced and legalized.
5. If the minor (s) is/are going to travel with just one of the parents, the other parent must issue a notarized and legalized authorization. The Immigration office must also authorize the minor's exit. All this must be accompanied by two photo copies of the authorizing parent's c?dula or passport)
 

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I believe that the solution is a lot easier than you think.
If you come to the DR and formally accuse the father os sexual molestation, then he will be tossed in jail.
In the meantime, you take possession of the child and, depending on your lawyer's advice and the legalities involved, you may be able to just bring her to Canada on the next plane.
I don't pretend to be a lawyer, but I do have an idea how things work here.
If daddy's in jail, how's he gonna stop you from taking the child.
It's not as if you are going to warn him you are coming.
You show up with the cops, they arrest him, and you take the child and worry about the details later.
Once you are here, you will have no problem finding a lawyer in the area, but you have to get down here.
It's as simple as that.
As soon as the child is out of daddy's hands, the child should be medically examined, also easy to arrange, to substantiate your allegations.
As it has been pointed out to you, none of us know you and do not know the whole truth about your situation, so I would like to point out to you that if your intentions are not as you portray them, and you toss the father in the slammer unjustly, you will be in one big heap of trouble later.
 

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I totally agree with Rocky on this one.

I also sent you a PM with the name and number of one he!! of a good lawyer who will tell you the same thing.

HB
 

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Come on man!

johne said:
You're a barrel of help. What are you lending to this thread--I guess you know the lady , little girl, and the father?
Hey, BTW, would you like to buy a bridge? I have one for sale in Brooklyn Mr. Smartaxx.
JOHN
Alotmorecautiousthanyouare.
johne: I will tell you the same thing MANY have told me about helpmann and what I have been noticing for a little while already, the guy is just a pest!. At least I can be a pest but I can also put aside my "pestness" and be of some help every now and then!. (Just wait until the other 2 LL's see this post!.)


His only purpose on this site is to say things like: "oh, attacks is all you get on this board". All he does is wait for someone to say something negative in order to post his: "oh attacks is all you get on this board". He does not make the comment and then tries to help the "attacked", he makes his "oh...." comment and moves on without offering ANY type of help whatsoever!!!!!!. It's like a fricking broken record!. I mean, have you seen this guy help anybody or offer helpful information?. If you see it, please show me!.

Back to topic:

OP, who is the mother, you or your daughter?. If you are the mother and you really want to help your daughter, hop into the next fricking plane, grab her by the arm and take it to a female Doctor even if she cries for 10 years!!.

Get her to a clinic where they have counselors and Doctors. Have the counselor speak to her for a little bit to calm her down a little and then have a Doctor see her right after. If you don't' know of one, PM me and I WILL call a friend of mine in the DR and I will ask her.

The longer you wait, the harder it will be for her.

It really surprises me about SOME of you people who call yourselves mothers. A mother is supposed to move earth and oceans in order to see that their kids are being treated well.

If I were you, I would not wait another second, hop into a plane, grab my daughter, take her to a counselor, then to a Doctor and if the Doctor finds any type of sexual abuse, take that mo'fo' straight to jail. ALL IN ONE DAY!!.

Stop wasting time and go be a MOTHER!!.

Btw, johne, I AM the king of scum!. Unless there was an election and you won, wahahahahaha!.
 
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rellosk

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AnnaC said:
Here is what I will help you with. Please contact Fabio Guzman, he is well known here and he studied in Canada and speaks English very well. If he can't help you I trust he will lead you in the right direction. Phone numbers and emails on his site.

http://www.drlawyer.com/
That's the same advice I gave her 30 posts ago. Because she seemed desperate, I also sent her a PM and an email. I guess she has other plans.
 

johne

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Then it becomes one sided

rellosk said:
Guys, can we stop with the crap. We all know there are (at least) two sides a story; and on the internet stories are often made up. But, this woman asked a question in the legal forum about what can she do.

Can't we just give her advice without disparaging her character (or the character of other DR1'ers)? If you don't believe her, than don't say anything.

Let the legal system sort it out. :nervous:

Ed--sorry to disagree with you on the point of "if you don't believe her, then don't say anything"
As you said there are two sides to all stories. If one is not to use their logic, and in this case there are many holes in the story, what good does it do to remain silent? Do you not become an enabler by not voicing an opinon?
With all of the search programs available to her such as Google, Embassy sites, free legal help, Mother/Fathers of abducted children groups, why does she reach out to DR1 a group of people that know a lot about tourism, and I bet very little about legal matters as complex as this.
In her first posts she indicates "legal or illegal" she say I don't care. She also indicates the father has legal papers for custody. (albeit according to her he acquired them thru bribes-or least she alludes to that) So right off the top I have problems with her story and voiced my say.
As far as my feind Mr. Helpman is concerned and his abusive language perhaps the moderator sould take a look at some of our rules which are not to personally attack another member of this board.
I submit that bestowing the title of "King" upon me is a personal attack as I may not be worthy of such an honor and I hereby request this posting be deleted.
JOHN
LOLhowsillyhelpmanisofnohelpwhat-so-ever.
 

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Roflmao!!!

miguel said:
His only purpose on this site is to say things like: "oh, attacks is all you get on this board". All he does is wait for someone to say something negative in order to post his: "oh attacks is all you get on this board". He does not make the comment and then tries to help the "attacked", he makes his "oh...." comment and moves on without offering ANY type of help whatsoever!!!!!!. It's like a fricking broken record!. I mean, have you seen this guy help anybody or offer helpful information?. If you see it, please show me!.
You make me laugh Miggles (you always make me laugh.)

-Helpmann :laugh: