Or people dont want to live in a cave the rest of their life because of a virus that wont effect them
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When will DR open for International travel??????
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Perhaps they are not misinformed and actually do read stats but arrived at a different conclusion than the general consensus. In fact lets look at some stats. Part of the general consensus is that the Chinese exported kung flu AKA fortune cookie virus or covid19 is a pandemic. I think we can agree on this point.
Lets see what the mortality rate is in the context of world population. The current world population is estimated at 7.8 billions. The total reported death for the world is reported at about 463,000. That's a mortality rate of approximately 0.00594 percent. This figure is calculated after about 6 months of tracking the CCP'S gift to the world. A significant amount of time when dealing with a pandemic and it is not particularly alarming. Taking a more relevant, albeit myoptic, view of the kung flu beast mortality rate, lets consider the current "epicenter" the United States. The total recorded death is approximately 121000 versus total pulation of about 329 millions. Again this is a very small mortality rate of 0.03678 for a pandemic. Ideally we would prefer no death but that is not plausible under the circumstances.
I somewhat agree with you here but I think that it is a bit pretentious to adjudicate such a vile motive here at least to all. Some may have real important reason to be in DR, it might even entail matters of life and death.
Looking purely at the numbers it is difficult to conclude that the best course of action is to isolate into infinity and continue in perpetual lockdown at the cost of financial obliteration of people and nations. However I do understand there is also a human element to this situation that must be considered, but like everything in life, this situation has trade-offs. The question is: Do we hurt the healthy and kneecap the nation for the sake of the few at risk or perhaps just isolate the ones at risk?
If you are going to write such big math equations and use such big words at least learn how to use a calculator. 0.00594 and 0.03678 are both incorrect conclusions to your math equations🙄
Also, billion and million are not plural🙄
(Sorry- couldn't resist. It's just too ridiculous.)
I did not read that in the press, where I live it tells the continent america is the hotspot of the world.
now within that continent the carribean is the less affected part, certainly not a hotspot.
Within the carribean puerto rico is per head about the same And as I understand they opened early that will result in having the higher numbers. Cuba is either very good or maybe counts the north corean way.
saying RD is a hotspot is exaggerated.
The Dominican Republic registered a new record of coronavirus infections this Saturday, 710 new cases in one day, just two weeks before the July 5 presidential and legislative elections.
I mean we are going into a doubling phase here. Hospitals are at a breaking point.
Some "Satin Flu" huh?
I mean we are going into a doubling phase here. Hospitals are at a breaking point.
Some "Satin Flu" huh?
Well your calculation gives the best argument for a lock-down.
you say mortality is 0.03 based on population - correct but there is only 1% of the population infected and if nothing is done it will be 80%. Thats 80 times 0.03 that is 2.4 % which is 8 million dead in the USA.
Congratulation, never read a better argument for lock-down...
Because you did not claim the cases would stop now mysteriously and current knowledge of science is 60-70% heard immunity with a 10-20% overrun in about one to two years if nothing is done to prevent.
Maybe they just did more test. You have to look at the positivity rate of the tests. Only if that goes up its really more. If its the same nothing changed except the number of tests.
They never tested enough, case number estimate is more then 100000 because of that for quite some time. Maybe its just with more testing they get closer to the real number which says nothing about the situation getting worse, just about the illusion In numbers they had before.
of course they should not open with 700 new cases a day regardless the reasons - I have no doubt on that fact. At least not in the region where the cases are located.
Yes and it is confirmed by research along the lines of 40/40/20 (20% no opinion) and seems to be about the same independ of location at least in the western world ( more or less- in hotspots its more tilted to "not open")
a connecion to class and political opinion seems to exist, however thats just my observation- not seen a study on that
I like your reply, it shows how well educated you are. Your metion of "big words" was a clear indicator of your academic acumen. unforgivable however is your reduction of my argument to nothing more than a couple of spelling error, or if you prefer grammatical and an alleged math error of which you offer no proof. I hope at some point you'll grace us with your mathematical skills and enlighten us with the proper percentage of mortality for the kung flu with regards to current world population.
I didn't know that a plublic forum post would be scrutinize as if it were a PhD dissertation. I'll try to be more careful with spelling as not to offend the spelling or grammar police but I can't promise you anything. As to the your alleged math error, I'm not sure what to do, you didn't offer any help, only ridecule - not particularly helpful. I suppose I'll have to content with this error until someone is kind enough to help.
Have you ever heard the adage, if you have nothing constructive to say it's best to say nothing at all or some variant of it? I think you could appreciate its wisdom. Have great rest of your day.
I appreciate your conclusion but I disagree with it. 2.4% of the population does not necessarily need to perish because the country opens up but the issue isn't so clear cut. Let suppose that lockdown continue for a year more for argument sake. How many will be ruined financially? How many will commit suicide because of financial devastation? How long could a nation dependant on tourism and hospitality survive under lockdown before it collapses? Does it sound reasonable to suffocate economically and restrict or alter peoples lives, including straining the future of the children, for a "chance" to shield the most vulnerable among us. Remember there is no guarantee that impacting close to 97.6% of a population will result in saving all or most of the group at risk. Again this doesn't sound reasonable to me.
Being a math guy, I have no desire to use my talents with make believe numbers. Even if you were to test everyone, the false negative and false positive numbers would make a mess of the math. The most important and believable number is the amount of people in hospital due to this virus.
As far as travel goes, the DR looks like a swell place if you are living in Brazil right now.
As far as travel goes, the DR looks like a swell place if you are living in Brazil right now.
No such thing as Dominicans? (nor any other nation)? Amusing statement. Makes me wonder about the procedure I went through to
become a Dominican citizen. Did that not really exist either?
There are indeed classes. In every country. As far as opinions on how to handles CV19, I was asking about
overall numbers in the DR from ALL Dominicans, but if you think they don't exist, then that conversation cannot be addressed
by your response.
I am surprised that the limitations on human rights have been accepted as well as they have for as long as they have, not only in the DR.
We were seeing more people starting to ignore the regulations and then a crackdown. The time when Dominicans vote for the president will be an interesting time. CV19 is here to stay no matter what governments will try.
9 people under 20 have died, 45 people died that are in their 20’s, 190 deaths of people in their 30’s, 413 deaths for people in their 40’s in United States.....very scary numbers!!!!! With numbers this big we should all be cowering inside our homes! I’m not going to drive anymore because the ods are much higher I’ll die in a car crash! People just just read the stats on car crashes! All about me, me, me I got places to go!
My guess - guess - is that the preponderance of 30 & under deaths.... even in their 30's
might be due to the youth factor
That's age when you're invincible - death is for old people.....
Unfortunately -- The Times , They Are A - Changin'..... credit Bob Dylan
might be due to the youth factor
That's age when you're invincible - death is for old people.....
Unfortunately -- The Times , They Are A - Changin'..... credit Bob Dylan
Cuba has two things that are missing here: more medical expertise and the police enforcing the laws.
Did you notice that the countries most successful at controlling the pandemic are countries where the executive branch is not dependant on parliamentary bickering: China, Germany, Denmark, Vietnam, Switzerland, Cuba, just to mention a few.
Which hospitals, and where? Can you specifically cite what you have witnessed with your own eyes.
For the record, most public hospitals within RD are always at "near to capacity" amounts, because they are public hospitals.
China was successful in controlling this pandemic?
I do have to agree with an earlier opening statement of yours "From my limited experience". It is indeed telling indeed, across several thread lines.
Please, spare me the "human rights". Or let's talk about is as soon as the pandemic and the economy crisis which follows are gone.
Are you sure about the lack of medical expertise in Cuba? They have helped Haiti many times with docs and nurses.
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