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I took an IQ test a few years ago.
The answer that I got wrong was "Hank Aaron" ((Sp?)WGAF??)
So I got the easiest question wrong. Who The Freak is Hank Araon?? Never heard of him!!!
A 10 year old boy would answer that correctly - especially in D.R.!!!!!!
Nals, did my IQ increase when I learned about the Hankster??
I know Barry * Bonds has done better since, by the way.
Read this if you are capable of comprehending the written word as it was intended NALS - gladwell dot com - none of the above
I think there may be a cultural / temporal bias to IQ tests??????
I usually ignore your feeble posts backed up by some of the most spurious quotes imaginable - but this time you have outdone yourself. Shame on you.
You are now the funniest man on the forum.
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In fact I have to come back for more.
NALS - you are the dumbest man I have ever read!!
I make no apologies for saying that.
I fully expected to get banned for this outburst - so be it - after all is it a personal insult and that is against the rules.
But I have to say...
NALS - Sir, you are a horse's ass!!
Can you run a poll on this to see if I am on my own here????
NALS - you are the dumbest man I have ever read!!
I make no apologies for saying that.
I fully expected to get banned for this outburst - so be it - after all is it a personal insult and that is against the rules.
But I have to say...
NALS - Sir, you are a horse's ass!!
Can you run a poll on this to see if I am on my own here????
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NALs will have us both banned and/or our posts deleted. As for me, well, I'll come back (shame on me!) with a NALs-bashing username, after taking a much-needed break to visit the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame. NALs will still be here, impressing the Abrahamic trio of AZB, El Chip-Oh! and Bob Saunders with his Wiki sources.
As a consolation: intelligent and witty folks like RHM and CCcc--and others
-- had NALs's number when he first surfaced three or four years ago.This is the second ignorant, insensitive and insulting comment, about Haitians that has been made by a "MODERATOR" on this board in the past week?
I thought such attacks were not tolerated on this board as they only serve to inflame, anger and cause arguments.
What is up with that? Some of these moderators obviously need some moderation themselves.
Who is on 1st? Who is on 2nd? Because someone obviously dropped the ball appointing this Nals as a moderator.
IQ tests have been proven to be culturally biased, and those who use these tests as though they actually meant something are as culturally biased as the tests.
But this is nothing new, or out of the ordinary. Citing invalid tests, filling superfluously long posts with meaning statistics, and basically playing the role of an arrogant pseudo-intellectual have been well-established tactics of NALs for as long as I have read his comments, perhaps longer.
For a very long period of time, NALs has proven to be immune to the effects of logic and reason. He has consistently demonstrated a remarkable ability to side-step any meaningful discussion by proclaiming others to be of lesser intellect, of lesser lineage, and having lesser academic credentials. Of course, his proclamations are never substantiated, but what the heck?
This most recent post by NALs should come as no surprise to anyone who is familiar with his modis operendi. I have developed a certain admiration for NALs and his rather curious proclivity for clouding almost any issue with voluminous rhetoric containing little or no substance. Often, he provides the only humor in my day.
I have come to appreciate the product of NALs' delusions. I now think of it as entertainment, and I consider myself lucky to witness such bombastic sound and fury, which actually signifies next to nothing.
But this is nothing new, or out of the ordinary. Citing invalid tests, filling superfluously long posts with meaning statistics, and basically playing the role of an arrogant pseudo-intellectual have been well-established tactics of NALs for as long as I have read his comments, perhaps longer.
For a very long period of time, NALs has proven to be immune to the effects of logic and reason. He has consistently demonstrated a remarkable ability to side-step any meaningful discussion by proclaiming others to be of lesser intellect, of lesser lineage, and having lesser academic credentials. Of course, his proclamations are never substantiated, but what the heck?
This most recent post by NALs should come as no surprise to anyone who is familiar with his modis operendi. I have developed a certain admiration for NALs and his rather curious proclivity for clouding almost any issue with voluminous rhetoric containing little or no substance. Often, he provides the only humor in my day.
I have come to appreciate the product of NALs' delusions. I now think of it as entertainment, and I consider myself lucky to witness such bombastic sound and fury, which actually signifies next to nothing.
I will have to guess not a single critic has even seen the cover of the book, much less read it.
Ha ha. :cheeky:
Here is quick summary:
1. The data from the book is compiled from multiple IQ test that were done in many of those countries, all taking into account cultural differences to diminish the cultural bias of many tests.
2. The basic premise and conclusion of the author was that:
A) IQ scores closely correlates per capita GDP.
B) IQ scores ARE affected by things such as malnutrition, unfavorable environment, etc. and that explains much of the lower scores in African countries (which are similar to Haiti's, hence it probably explains the low score of Haiti as well).
And most importantly,
C) Countries with higher IQ averages (and consequently being wealthier) have a moral duty to help the countries with lower IQ averages.
Hmm.... this sounds a lot to what Mountainannie has been saying all along, doesn't it?
The DR has obviously been much more successful than Haiti, hence the DR should help Haiti.
But, you have to read the book to get the gist of this, and more importantly, one should never criticize a source, especially when its a book, without at the very least seeing the cover!
Have a happy Wednesday!
-NALs
Ha ha. :cheeky:
Here is quick summary:
1. The data from the book is compiled from multiple IQ test that were done in many of those countries, all taking into account cultural differences to diminish the cultural bias of many tests.
2. The basic premise and conclusion of the author was that:
A) IQ scores closely correlates per capita GDP.
B) IQ scores ARE affected by things such as malnutrition, unfavorable environment, etc. and that explains much of the lower scores in African countries (which are similar to Haiti's, hence it probably explains the low score of Haiti as well).
And most importantly,
C) Countries with higher IQ averages (and consequently being wealthier) have a moral duty to help the countries with lower IQ averages.
Hmm.... this sounds a lot to what Mountainannie has been saying all along, doesn't it?
The DR has obviously been much more successful than Haiti, hence the DR should help Haiti.
But, you have to read the book to get the gist of this, and more importantly, one should never criticize a source, especially when its a book, without at the very least seeing the cover!
Have a happy Wednesday!
-NALs
Sounds like a re-publication of "The Bell Curve".
It's all been said before, from every angle, supported by the same worn-out and questionable "statistics", and by every wanna-be advocate of some supposedly superior group, which they just happen to be a part of.
There is absolutely nothing new in what you are saying, NALs. It's just one more attempt to marginalize one group of people, and to rationalize any number of crimes committed against them, ranging from forced segregation to genocide.
So you read a book? Say, that's swell.
However, spouting quotes from a book of questionable credibility isn't exactly the same as getting your facts straight. IQ tests are culturally biased, and are not valid when used to compare two different cultures. There is simply no way you can worm your way around that fact.
It's all been said before, from every angle, supported by the same worn-out and questionable "statistics", and by every wanna-be advocate of some supposedly superior group, which they just happen to be a part of.
There is absolutely nothing new in what you are saying, NALs. It's just one more attempt to marginalize one group of people, and to rationalize any number of crimes committed against them, ranging from forced segregation to genocide.
So you read a book? Say, that's swell.
However, spouting quotes from a book of questionable credibility isn't exactly the same as getting your facts straight. IQ tests are culturally biased, and are not valid when used to compare two different cultures. There is simply no way you can worm your way around that fact.
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Wow, I am still here!!
Nals,
what do you think?
Are they dumb because they are poor or are they poor because they are dumb?
Nals,
what do you think?
Are they dumb because they are poor or are they poor because they are dumb?
exactly,
and would he come from a culture with a sufficient high IQ he could have figured out such himself or would even be able to read a book about it.
Mike
Nals,
If the facts you presented are correct or really prove anything..... explain how Cuba, a much poorer nation than the DR, with much less access to certain types of information from sources such as the internet and world media, (but has a better educational and health care system and a much higher national literacy rate and much lower infant mortality rate...comparable to wealthier countries), has basically the same IQ scores as the DR?
If the facts you presented are correct or really prove anything..... explain how Cuba, a much poorer nation than the DR, with much less access to certain types of information from sources such as the internet and world media, (but has a better educational and health care system and a much higher national literacy rate and much lower infant mortality rate...comparable to wealthier countries), has basically the same IQ scores as the DR?
saying all along?
To be clear .. I am a firm believer in self interest. I think the DR should help Haiti out of its own SELF Interest.. not because it is "further along" which it may be on some levels...... but the way you stated it it was some sort of moral position...
But how secure is your future going to be when you have an EQUAL number of people living on less LAND which produces LESS Food.... and you may have noticed that this is an ISLAND.... on the other side lies the ocean, sharks, the US Coast Guard..
I will have to guess not a single critic has even seen the cover of the book, much less read it.
Ha ha. :cheeky:
Here is quick summary:
1. The data from the book is compiled from multiple IQ test that were done in many of those countries, all taking into account cultural differences to diminish the cultural bias of many tests.
2. The basic premise and conclusion of the author was that:
A) IQ scores closely correlates per capita GDP.
B) IQ scores ARE affected by things such as malnutrition, unfavorable environment, etc. and that explains much of the lower scores in African countries (which are similar to Haiti's, hence it probably explains the low score of Haiti as well).
And most importantly,
C) Countries with higher IQ averages (and consequently being wealthier) have a moral duty to help the countries with lower IQ averages.
Hmm.... this sounds a lot to what Mountainannie has been saying all along, doesn't it?
The DR has obviously been much more successful than Haiti, hence the DR should help Haiti.
But, you have to read the book to get the gist of this, and more importantly, one should never criticize a source, especially when its a book, without at the very least seeing the cover!
Have a happy Wednesday!
-NALs
To be clear .. I am a firm believer in self interest. I think the DR should help Haiti out of its own SELF Interest.. not because it is "further along" which it may be on some levels...... but the way you stated it it was some sort of moral position...
But how secure is your future going to be when you have an EQUAL number of people living on less LAND which produces LESS Food.... and you may have noticed that this is an ISLAND.... on the other side lies the ocean, sharks, the US Coast Guard..
Nals you are my favorite poster but on this one I have to disagree with you big time. One could make an argument that Aristide and Pe?a Gomez are the main culprit of the racist label DR has been hit with since late 80's on. That by itself had an impact on our tourist industry.
Aristide's proposed changes were so radical, so unattainable and ridiculously unrealistic for Haiti's reality that he could only go down and took Haiti's social peace down with him. He is also the guy who reinvigorated class warfare in Haiti, and that is by far the main reason for Haiti's social and economic problems since its creation.
When it comes to DR what happens in Haiti doesn't stay in Haiti, after Aristide's fall Haitians started pouring in to DR, lowering cost for tourism related projects and also stealing jobs from Dominicans in those sector.
There are plenty of connection that can be made bet. Aristide and the tourist industry in DR. all you need is your imagination.
Pedro I noticed you always have to write two post, do you stutter in real life or only in the forum?
I noticed some folks here don't like stats but since when Cuba with a gdp of 108 billions qualify as "much poorer" than DR with a gdp of 77 billions?, that's almost 50% higher with only a population 15% larger, and did I mention the word "embargo"?
Regarding the better educational, health and literacy rate than richer countries, that might have to do with the 6,000,000 dollars they received from the former URSS until the late 80's. 6 billions dollars annually can get you lot of stuff
That was obviously his Haitian wife who was posting under his username.
It was clear to me.
Track his posts, he has an unusual number of consecutive post with the same though.
But of course I'm just kidding, Pedro's not too bright but he is funny and sweet.