Health Insurance for expats

Nelmarti217

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I have been reading some of the posts regarding this theme and it all seems OK, except for the fact that I am now75 years old and am considering moving to Santo Domingo probably just before the end of this current year,
does anyone out there have any information to give me. The insurance companies here in the US want exhorbirant premiums but most will cover only up to 70 year old. Will appreciate any info anybody has about this.
Thanks
 

ZC1

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Here insurace renews automatically - with paid premium of course up to age 65 - after that they can dump you or offer you a plan that is reviewed annually. I suggest you contact a few next visit and inquire. Sorry it is so expensive in the US - I guess Obama's solution is anything but a panacea
 

melphis

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From what I have seen it may be slightly less expensive here but not by much. If you are in the PC area I can forward my insurance guy's info to you. Let me know
 

windeguy

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I think the maximum age to enroll is 65 and the OP is 75

I have been reading some of the posts regarding this theme and it all seems OK, except for the fact that I am now75 years old and am considering moving to Santo Domingo probably just before the end of this current year,
does anyone out there have any information to give me. The insurance companies here in the US want exhorbirant premiums but most will cover only up to 70 year old. Will appreciate any info anybody has about this.
Thanks

I do not personally know of a company that will enroll you at your age. I believe the maximum age to become enrolled is 65.

Hopefully I am wrong and there will be an exception for you.

Do you not qualify at your age for Medicare in the USA?
 

windeguy

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From what I have seen it may be slightly less expensive here but not by much. If you are in the PC area I can forward my insurance guy's info to you. Let me know

I just paid for a full year for ARS HUMANO Plan Royal for two adults. The price was the equivalent of $783 for a year for both. Probably still far less than most US plans unless the person is very poor in the US.

The plans will as much as double in price as one gets older.
 

zoomzx11

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Most will not enroll you at that age. They are first in the money making business and figure you will cost too much. Enroll in US. Move here. Get sick go back. Its only a short flight to civilized medical care. Who wants to have a heart transplant done here.
 

melphis

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Most will not enroll you at that age. They are first in the money making business and figure you will cost too much. Enroll in US. Move here. Get sick go back. Its only a short flight to civilized medical care. Who wants to have a heart transplant done here.

I would much sooner have a heart transplant here than North Amreica where obesity is the norm. Hearts here are usually from young people who are in relatively good shape. I sure as hell wouldn't want any brain matter or livers from these folks but there hearts haven't had to carry the extra 200 pounds of fast food crap.
 

pma22222

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as you obviously know, medicare won't cover you here, but a quick trip to puerto rico and you are covered by medicare, only problem exists when it is an emergency and can't travel
 

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I have been reading some of the posts regarding this theme and it all seems OK, except for the fact that I am now75 years old and am considering moving to Santo Domingo probably just before the end of this current year,
does anyone out there have any information to give me. The insurance companies here in the US want exhorbirant premiums but most will cover only up to 70 year old. Will appreciate any info anybody has about this.
Thanks

Yes you can, just not everything will be covered under one policy's plan. My aunt is 76 going strong and she has two (2) insurance plans. One she negotiated to include some things and exclude others, then on the other she included the exclusions from the first plan and excluded all the benefits the same first plan covered. It was negotiated directly in both cases.

Her total for both plans comes up just a bit higher like the one for a person aged 65+ and covers almost all the important things the normal plans offer.
 

Fredo

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I just paid for a full year for ARS HUMANO Plan Royal for two adults. The price was the equivalent of $783 for a year for both. Probably still far less than most US plans unless the person is very poor in the US.

The plans will as much as double in price as one gets older.

wow,.. I pay 750US per month for my family of 3... (no pun intended)...
How much coverage do you get for 780@year??
I ask because a in recent accident in Cabarete a woman ended up in intensive with a brain injury and the insurance stopped paying after 8 days in intensive,... maximum coverage reached...
 

kapitan75

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Does the DR accept medicaid/care? Are there any medically facilities linked up with florida?

This could be a big concern for many returning dominicans with plans for retirement. Having to take that flight back to the US for medical care would add up! I have heard of some dominicans or medical tourists going to the DR for inexpensive prescriptions or medical care ,but havent given it a thought the other way around.

So, a senior , in their late 60s, will encounter issues with obtaining medical insurance. Is this more so for foreign born , than dominican born seniors?
 

windeguy

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Does the DR accept medicaid/care? Are there any medically facilities linked up with florida?

This could be a big concern for many returning dominicans with plans for retirement. Having to take that flight back to the US for medical care would add up! I have heard of some dominicans or medical tourists going to the DR for inexpensive prescriptions or medical care ,but havent given it a thought the other way around.

So, a senior , in their late 60s, will encounter issues with obtaining medical insurance. Is this more so for foreign born , than dominican born seniors?

No. Medicare/Medicaid cannot be used in the DR because of US laws. Period. No links to the USA. None at that issue.

You are correct in understanding that there is an issue for older people who want to retire back to the DR since they can only be admitted into local DR insurance plans up until the age of 65. This applies to all people over 65.

Also for a question you did not ask but is related: If you live full time in the DR you are not eligible to be in the ACA/Obamacare. But if you visit the US for more than 35 days in a given year, you may be forced to pay the Obamacare penalty. That is how screwed up that set of laws is.

If you are the type to plan ahead, when you are 64 come down and enroll in a medical plan in the DR.
 
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Cdn_Gringo

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You have to be realistic and plan accordingly. There is some top notch medical care to be had here. It's not available everywhere and just like at home some doctors are better than others. You just need to find (before hand) a hospital or clinic that is able to provide the competent treatment you expect for everyday maladies and injuries and ensure they accept the DR health insurance you have purchased. This place may not be exactly local to where you have chosen to live, or it could be. Think of it like moving to a new city with children, one of the criteria when choosing a place to live in the new place is proximity to a good school. Here proximity to good healthcare is a consideration.

If you break your arm, you should have no problem getting that treated here without a doctor suggesting that amputation is the best way to proceed. If however, you develop cancer, need a quadruple by-pass or treatment for another serious long term condition, having the option to return home to a first world environment might be advantageous and better in the long run.

Insurance here does have upper limits. A condition where treatment and convalescence takes place over a course of months, may result in someone reaching those insurance limits. Sometimes it is possible to travel home before treatment begins but not after. There are good oncologists here, and some not so good ones. There are great surgeons, and and some that are not so great.

The medical system here like the country as a whole is still developing. Continuing to live here with a serious chronic condition or developing one after you arrive could pose challenges. One has to consider how to deal with with medical problems that require urgent care when one cannot immediately find a doctor with the necessary skills or facilities to successfully treat you. Sometimes, timing is important. Farting around Santiago or Santo Domingo looking for the right specialist isn't always the best use of one's limited available time.

Those with preexisting medical conditions do not move to the third world without assessing the risk of doing so. Old people tend to need more medical care than younger people. Old people think about these things, young people probably not to the same extent. A heart attack in the US with available ambulance service is often fatal. Here with a less efficient ambulance service, more so. If you suffer from cardiac problems and move to the DR, you had better bring your own AED as you won't find one hanging on a wall here.
 

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I got insurance here - Humano - after 65. My insurance agent is in Puerto Plata but works the north coast - seems you are in SD so I don't have a contact there. I had my choice of 4 levels of coverage; I took the 2nd level b/c my US insurance covers me in emergency rooms only. My only exclusion was a pre-existing condition b/c I had knee surgery. It also includes dental.
 

windeguy

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I got insurance here - Humano - after 65. My insurance agent is in Puerto Plata but works the north coast - seems you are in SD so I don't have a contact there. I had my choice of 4 levels of coverage; I took the 2nd level b/c my US insurance covers me in emergency rooms only. My only exclusion was a pre-existing condition b/c I had knee surgery. It also includes dental.

To my knowledge, this is no longer possible to do after the age of 65. I know someone who recently had to hustle to get into Humano since they were turning 65.
 

Cdn_Gringo

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There is a rather well know jack of all trades that I met at a watering hole a couple of months back. He advertises health insurance for those over the standard cut off age. You can usually find his ad in Playa. As with every contract, you need to read it once, think about what you have just read and then read it again just to make sure you know and understand your coverage.

Lawyers, may be considered, slimy. Politicos, corrupt. I tend to view insurance companies as being both. If they can find a way to deny coverage when you need it, they will.

I know that just walking in off the street to Humano, Universal etc., one comes up against the max age limit. There may be group policies that stretch the age limit if you can get coverage under one of those that is being offered to the public.
 

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I would much sooner have a heart transplant here than North Amreica where obesity is the norm.

i would not count on heart transplant here. the first one was performed in 2012 and a handful happened ever since with only one patient still alive. just saying.
 

Cdn_Gringo

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I don't think organ donation is even on the radar here in the DR. I've encountered some pretty bizarre notions held by locals regarding medicine, science and the paranormal. It might be a little difficult to make organs available for transplant.