Catalonia Bavaro Beach Resort

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Tracy

Guest
I was just at the Catalonia Bavaro Resort which is a 5 star resort. all I can say without going into detail is
DO NOT GO TO THIS RESORT!!!
It was beautiful but the service and food are horrible. The beach is also not that great.
I hope have saved some of you a great dissapointment.
Tracy
Montreal, Canada
 
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jenn

Guest
hi, we are planning a trip to this resort on feb.10, is it really that bad? Did you go into this expecting a 5 star resort? we are very worried. If you could possibly send us a message and let us know more specifically what was so bad, that would be great--ie. what was wrong with the food, and especially the beach?
thanks,
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mike

Guest
Jenn, people disagree all the time about these resorts. I wouldn't be worried. I was at the Catalonia a year ago and thought everything was great. The beach is phenomonal. The water is shallow there, so if you're in to big waves and body surfing, you might be disappointed. Otherwise, it is a wide beach area with about 1000 palm trees. One of the most beautiful beaches I have ever seen.

Unless something has drastically changed, I'm sure you'll have a good time there.
 
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Tony

Guest
Jenn,I have to agree wit Mike, My wife and I were there in October with another couple and had a fantastic time.
I'm not sure what she as looking for in the way of a beach,but can assure you that the beach was very clean and well maintained.
Food,certainly more than enough to choose from on a daily basis
hot or cold. However, do not go expecting their five star rating to be up to par with an American 5 star hotel. I would say expect maybe 3 1/2 - 4 star?? it's all a matter of ones individual expectations.
The hotel is exceptionaly well maintained, my only complaint is that the Spainish management (all Spainiards) are not overly friendly. But then again,We really didn't have to deal with them, I would say 98% of the employees are Dominican and if it wasn't for the Dominican employees these Spainish owned Hotels would would have serious problems.
Just a couple words of advise,take a little English/Spainish dictionary if you do not speak any Spainish,you'll be amazed at how quickly it will bring a smile to their faces since the Dominicans are very quick to help. And also, a couple of dollars here and there will help improve the service,such as your room stewardess, and your favorite bartender.(ask for Leandro he is fantastic).
And one last thing,please go with an open mind,remember you will be in the Dominican Republic and things just don't happen with quite the same speed as you would expect in the U.S.
Go and enjoy!!!
 
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Victim

Guest
Sorry to hear you are going to the Catalonia Resort in Punta Cana. Please, please, DON'T GO NEAR THE CASINO. It's is run by a corrupt thief, named Mr. Thomas (Welch), who rents out space to a group of con-men to run a skam called "Progressive Roulette". He collects a part of the take. As one of his victims, I was told by the Catalonia Hotel that the the casino is a seperate "enterprise". DON'T BELIEVE IT-all guests of the hotel are given tokens to use at the casino when the con-game is being held there.For more on this subject, read postings by Victim, beginning Sept. 2000 (in archives).Also new info from Brenda. Also, now that Brenda & I have both contacted Debbies Dominican Travel site & a brief warning has been posted, Debbie has stated that "there will be no more posted about the casinos". WHY IS THAT? DEBBIES SITE IS SUPPOSED TO HELP D.R. VISITORS. Could someone have persuaded Debbie to stop hurting their business???
 
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mina

Guest
I will never go back to that Hole in The Wall!!!!

Very very interesting! My family went to this hotel when it first opened up and we hated it!!! It gave us the creeps! My husband is Japanese and so we tried the Japanese restaurant - it was horrible and definately terrible Japanese food. They treated us horribly because we were wearing sandals to go in for dinner and I thought it was a joke (you know in Japan they ask you to remove your shoes before entering their restaurants - not complain that your shoes are open toed!!!)

Anyway it is interesting to me that you are dubious to Debbie's website because I was so shocked by her review of the Catalonia - she thought it was fantastic and that Japanese restaurant was amazing! I thought the hotel was lousy and trying to be so upper crust but falling flat on its face! Plus when we went everyone got violently ill - some people had IV's happening by the pool!!!

Even the poor mangy flamingoes in the lagoon looked miserable to be there!

But you may have something about Debbie's website being more than just an innocent help for tourists. Haven't you also noticed that all her reviews are positive?????

something to think about...

thanks for all your warnings about the Casino... I will never be caught at the Catalonia again but for other innocent tourists your warning is invaluable!!

Cheers,

Mina
 
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Susanne

Guest
Debbie's site

Debbie's page is very helpful if you are a first time tourist wanting to go to a resort in the DR. Generally speaking, that is.

However, I would take her own reviews with a grain of salt. I don't think she is lying consciously but she is overwhelmingly positive - everything is just wonderful.

But if you read what others have written you will find it uncensored. I know, because I posted a couple of reviews myself.

Just bear in mind with any review that it is the personal experience of another person who may have totally different values to your own. And that one bad detail can influence the whole impression just like one good experience will stay with you and colour your review. It is an opinion, not the gospel of truth.

Regards,
Susanne
 
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Jim Hinsch

Guest
Re: Debbie's site

I once wrote the below commentary to help put reader in perspective when they read reviews about resorts in the Dominican Republic. I don't think Debbie's site tells it any different than the way the contributers' told it. You can check a dozen other sites with reviews and comments and they all follow the same pattern. 95% glowing reviews, often for properties I've visited personally and know for a fact that they aren't so great. Here's my take on why:

When booked through a good tour operator, one can typically get prices at a typical all-inclusive resort in the Dominican Republic in the range of US$40-70 per person per night depending on the specific property. At those price, it can be an outstanding value.

Consider that all-inclusive resorts at other Caribbean islands start at around US$175/night per person at the low end.

Dominican resorts mostly fill up with European tourists who will pay as low as US$900 per person for 14 days including airfare from Europe. The vast majority of people visiting these resorts don't travel much, perhaps once a year, and have little to compare their experience to. Hence, most are thrilled with both the experience and the value. Even as budget resorts, many of them are very beautiful. Landscaping, their giant swimming pools, and the architecture in their lobbies and dining rooms are their strong points.

Where they lack tends to be in individual service, attention to detail, handling problems, and quality in just about every category. Still, most guests are so happy to be in the Caribbean and at a beach, in warm weather, and to be sucking down a tropical drink that the don't even notice the little things. Little things for example, like not being able to get something to drink until half-way through dinner, air conditioners that don't get the room cold, procedures designed with the staff in mind instead of the customer (like "all dinner reservations must be made between 9 and 10am at this desk" so get in line early).

Expect something compared to those $200 per person per day resorts elsewhere in the Caribbean, and you'll likely be disappointed. Where you will probably be thrilled will be with the resort grounds. Throughout the Dominican Republic, resorts have done a beautiful job of landscaping their properties, putting in massive swimming pools, and making tremendous statements with their lobbies. My take on it all is that appearancing at the high end is given more importance than actualy delivering at the high end, and for many that don't know any better, they'll never know the difference.

Finally, not every traveler puts the same weight on different aspects of their vacation. For one traveler, a broken air conditioner, lack of hot water, or the pool being closed for maintenance is a trip that is ruined while another just says no big deal. One guy blames the whole country for a week of bad weather while the next doesn't even consider it when reporting on a property. Etc.

So read all those reports with a grain of salt, and remember to discount those reports where everything was great because they had a great time. Likewise, give proper weight when somebody let a small thing tarnish their whole experience.
 
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Tony

Guest
Re: Debbie's site

Couldn't have said it better myself, what I really find intriguing is that this individual obviously lost his shirt at the casino and has continued to rant and rave about how bad the hotel is. I certainly do not condone this type operation and I fully blame the management for not taking action against the casino operator after repeated complaints.
Didn't he realize from the start of the game that it was a scam,obviously not an experienced gambler. If your stupid enough to continue to stand there and throw away good money on a bad game and let it ruin your vacation,then my only suggestion would be to stay home and play darts with the neighbors.

And as for Mina,to insinuate that Debbies has some sort of interest in these hotels is just incomprehensible. "Read the reviews from the hotel guests" they are quite varied in their opinions and as Jim stated, take them with a grain of salt.
 
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mina

Guest
Just a QUESTION that is all...

Well I was not intending to suggest that Debbie actually has some kind of vested interest in praising these hotels as she does, I just find it strange that she finds all the hotels so wonderful. Isn't there something odd in that? How could they all be so wonderful???

I have read the reviews that were put in by others and I have put in one myself. I know her sight very well and as Susanne has mentioned it is indeed very helpful to first time tourists to the DR.

Jim is correct that a "review" is all SUBJECTIVE, but that is indeed the point...For Debbie to find them all truly great is not believable.

It is just a question and not an insinuation that I am posing and it merits thinking that is all.

Furthermore sometimes questions are more important than the answers...

Cheers,

Mina
 
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Jim Hinsch

Guest
Re: Just a QUESTION that is all...

That's why some reviewers are better than others. When something sucks, say so. When something stands out, say so. No sugar coating it.

A sample of reviews that tell it like it is:

http://jimhinsch.bizland.com/cayman_islands/index.html
http://www.mastercomputergroup.com/acapulco/
http://www.mastercomputergroup.com/personal/puerto_vallarta/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/calypso_98.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/casa_marina_98.htm
http://caribtravelnews.com/c0798_03.htm#barjim
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/sosua_by_the_sea_98.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/casa_de_campo_97.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/bavaro_palace_96.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/don_juan_96.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/don_juan_95.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/hamaca_95.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jimhinsch/dominican_republic/trip_reports/hamaca_94.htm
 
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mina

Guest
Favourites....

Thanx Jim! Very appreciative of your homework! I have a favourite place already that I have been back to three times, but your websites may prove to be useful in future!!!

I would be interested to know if you have a favourite. Keeping in mind of course that what you may look for may be completely different from what I look for...It is sometimes nice to be able to compare with others...

Cheers and many thanx,

Mina
 
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debbie

Guest
I feel the need to respond to accusations made in these postings.
First of all, regarding the casino. Following receipt of complaints about Catalonia's casino and other hotel casinos, we added warnings in several areas of our site. We decided to not post any more "casino stories" because ours is a resort review page. Anybody who sent us a complaint about a casino, be it Catalonia or Hamaca, etc., we have asked them to include it in a resort review. There are casino problems everywhere, not just the Dominican Republic. And the casino is NOT run by the Catalonia.

Regarding my reviews - It would be ridiculous for me to write a review of a resort that is not truthful. I don't "nit-pick" the small stuff - I ask myself if the resort is clean, if the food and rooms are decent, if the service is adequate, etc. If you want to read a glowing review, read Susanne's review of El Marinique on our site. It is obvious she disdains all-inclusive resorts, therefore may not understand why I enjoy them. When Susanne wrote her review, we made a point of contacting the El Marinique resort and we told them about her great review. We promote all resorts and hotels and web sites as both Susanne and Jim know. My husband and I have been travelling to the DR and other places in the Caribbean for 20 years, and we know what to expect from a resort. The e-mail I receive from frequent travellers to the DR and other places would dispute the fact that our page is only for first-timers.

Now, on a happier note, we would like to take the opportunity to say that we have a new web site dealing with all the Caribbean, because so many of our readers requested it; the address is below.