4 dominican airlines to fly from DO to US

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aviastar

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Aeromar
Air Santo Domingo
Lan Dominicana
Queen Air

will fly to US now, actually none of those airline exept Aeromar has a single owned airplane. BQ has one 732, even though DOM registered planes can go to USA, I am talking about the stability of airlines.

While european carriers are merging, US carriers are looking for alliances, we create airlines here. Don't you think that 4 airlines is too much for Dom Rep now? Don't you think it would be better to have one but strong? Don't you think it's more convienient to passengers to have a reliable carrier with several planes, good schedules and descent service?

Do we need that many airlines now? Aviation undustry is in crisis. In ddition to those 4 let's bring Dominicana Aviacion and Aerocontinente. This is so frustrating.
 
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Any carrier flying to JFK with a B727 will not last too long.

The B727 is too expensive to operate due to high fuel comsuption and the additional cost of one extra cockpit crew member.

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Unless a US carrier will operate it with a N-registration, you won't see a HI-registered aircraft flying to JFK on sched services. Maybe Falcon will operate it on behalf of Viva/Queen?
 
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Latinaviation, I think you are right. Viva/Queens plan is to wet lease a 727 from Falcon and use it for US-DR flights. Ill bet that the L-1011 is used for flights to Europe and/or Brazil, S. America.
 
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casheet you obviously have good sources of information and interest in this company, ask your sources about this: there is a rumor of a lucrative Viva cargo contract between Brazil, Bolivia, and mexico for this first L-1011 coming into service over the next few weeks.

As I remember this L-1011 was originally configured for 300 seats but they may have found better interim use for this aircraft. Let me know what you find out! Like they say: It's not what you know but who you know!

Looks like the first pilots trained in Miami a few weeks ago will spend some time in Brazil, Bolivia, and Mexico before going to Canada!. I am still trying to understand why the aircraft is going to Santo Domingo (certification?). Tropical International Airways of St. Kitts and Nevis is supposed to operate this aircraft.

Is Viva going to fly cargo in S.A with Tropical until the Canadian market picks up in the fall? Tourism from Canada to the DR is major business I understand!

Interestig isn't it?
 
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Interesting indeed. I have heard of some plan to fly to Brazil but I had not heard anything of the magnitude you are speaking. How do you hear of these things? The company seems to be very hush-hush about their plans.

I have also heard of a planned 747 running routes as well. What else have you "heard"?
 
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I heard they are broke! 163 dollars in their account! They are not an Airline (according to the DOT and the FAA) who have said they have gotten numerous complaints and are invetigating the scam. Word is the DOT is sending a cease and desist to stop promoting themselves as an Airline.

You can t convert an L1011 from freighter to passenger with a miracle!
 
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Viva International is not an airline but Queen Air/Viva Dominicana is.

The last annual report has nothing to do with the new company.

The FAA cannot tell them what to do unless is related to flight safety.

The DOT cannot tell Queen Air to stop promoting themselves as an airline. Queen air is a Dominican entity.
 
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avionics said:


The FAA cannot tell them what to do unless is related to flight safety.

The DOT cannot tell Queen Air to stop promoting themselves as an airline. Queen air is a Dominican entity.
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If they plan to operate in the US both regulatory agencies control them and can and will tell them what they can and cannot do. DR is CATII . To operate into the US they would enter as a 129 carrier. As strictly a DOMINICAN CARRIER (Queen Air) they would have to wet lease an aircraft from a third entity.

Now granted you are right, if they want to operate into other countries!
 
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Exactly what they are doing, leasing US aircraft for flights to/from the US.

As far as promoting themselves as an airlines, there is nothing the DOT or FAA can do. They may be able to prevent them from operating in the US if unfit however.
 
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Thats how I understand it as well. As a category 2 carrier, Viva/Queen will need to wet lease with a US carrier to fly to and from the US. From what I have gathered, Falcon Air Express in Miami, FL is that US carrier.

Its up to Viva/Queen at this point to show that they are really an airline. As of yet, they have not shown to the public just how close they are to operating, or how they will continue to operate.

Still alot of questions about this airline. So far, it sounds like an L-1011 and at least one super 727 has been bought/leased by the airline. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
 
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avionics said:
Exactly what they are doing, leasing US aircraft for flights to/from the US.

As far as promoting themselves as an airlines, there is nothing the DOT or FAA can do. They may be able to prevent them from operating in the US if unfit however.
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Okay as I reread your post,

Are they an airline or a tour operator?

Big Difference.

If they are an Airline then they hold operational control.

If they use another carrier then that carrier holds operational control.
 
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