Alternative to Collect Calls?!

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Helen

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Hi everyone: The problem of maintaining a relationsip with a Dominican male who does not have a phone can be a real pain. If someone has an alternative to all these exhorbitant "collect calls" calls, I would really appreciate hearing about it! I have tried asking him for the number of the pay phones he uses so I could call him back but, either the numbers are not listed on these phones or he doesn't understand what I am trying to tell him...sigh...help!!! We have started faxing each other which isn't so bad but, it's not like talking over the phone. At the rate we are talking to each other, I would be able to purchase a ticket for my flight to PR with the charges I pay on collect calls! Pls help! Helen
 
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Pito

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The solution is obvious: drop him. What's wrong with the guy around the corner from you?
 
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Tom

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Suggest he go to a CODETEL or TRICOM phone center, the cost is minimal

Tom
 
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gio

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You probably don't really want to hear this, but please consider listening to the voice of experience, namely, me. I had married a Dominican and his family called "con cargas" meaning "collect" and, he almost bankrupted me. These people have no regard for what it costs us here in the US. They think that we're rich and, frankly, they don't care even when they know that we're not. My husband and his "el collecto call" family gave me phone bills of $200 to $400 a month more and I was forced to pay it because he wouldn't. He also decided not to work anymore. So there I was, if I didn't pay the bill I couldn't call home from work and make sure that my kids from my 1st marriage were home from school, etc. He got my phone turned off the day before my daughter's surgery and I was in Manhattan in the hospital with her and could not communicate with my son at home. The truth of it is that a letter is better or so is e-mail. Your phone bills should be waking you up to the fact that if this guy really is nuts about you he'd give a damn about the expense he's causing. Otherwise, just get ready to be bled dry by his family because it won't end with the phone. If they can take advantage of you with that expense they'll think that you've got alot of money and that man will take it from you and send it to them. He will save face with his family first and have them think that he's swimming in money, but you'll be drowning in misery. I got dumb-ass calls like "his friend cut his hand at work" and "send me sneakers" and "Dad needs teeth" and guess what? When I went down there I never met this zillion dollar phone call friend, everyone already had sneakers, they asked me if I really wanted to bring my clothes back home with me, and Dad still didn't have new teeth. I found my TV, though. It was in his parents' kitchen. My husband told me that it was breaking. It worked very well for a "broken" TV. They also had a VCR and never even took the time to get Mom a can opener. She was still opening cans on the floor with a large rock and a heavy knife. It doesn't stop with the phone. Have an honest phone discussion with this guy. If he can't cough up pesos for his own phone calls then run the other way and consider yourself lucky.--Very sincerely, Gio
 
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ann

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I don't know where you are but in canada we have a "call me card". The person you give the card to can only call you, and the charges are not collect - still not cheap, but cheaper. I would think with a pre-paid card, he could call all his overseas friends, and you may get one call out of it. Calls made from codetel still come collect, and are no cheaper. Isn't it amazing how they forget all their English when you are telling them you can't afford something?
 
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Tom

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Helen

He "understands." There are hundreds of CODETEL and TRICOM offices all around the country where he can call you for less than ten cents a minute
 
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Tom

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>>>>>>. Calls made from codetel still come collect, and are no cheaper

Calls made rom CODETEL DO NOT come collect unless the person places them that way, You go into a booth, direct dial the number you wish, then pay the computerized charge of 8-9 cents a minute, if that. I have spent 30 minutes in a booth making "daily" calls and been charged about 3-4 bucks

Tom
 
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jerry

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I will have to check this out next time I am down there. If this is true it is sorry that you can call here for .10 but from my house is to there is .50, I am checking that card Tom mentioned earlier but that is still 2x more expensive. You would thing that we in the States would be able to have better rates.
 
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Alex

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Gio--

Your response to Helen gave me something to really laugh about this morning. For a moment I though I was reading an excerpt from my autobiography! At one point I had gotten a call, "con cargas" of course, and he told me that his father fell off the roof. At that point I told him, "You can't use that one again. Your father fell off the roof two months ago." Helen should listen.
 
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Jim Hinsch

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One option is to purchase calling cards. A friend of mine sells them in various denominations starting at US$5 up to US$100 and they give you US$0.28/min. to or from the USA. Calls can be made from any phone, public or private, in the USA or DR to call the other country. There is an 800 number that works from payphones in the DR and another that works from phones in the USA. This is slightly cheaper than the direct dial or Codetel/TriCom calling center rates.

You can purchase them next time you are down there. Buy them in small increments. Give your friend a couple. When the cards run low, you can give him the secret number off one of your cards until the next time, and so on, thereby maintaining control and monitor over the card usage.

The cards can be obtain from Ronnie (from Boston) at Ronnie's Beach Bar in Boca Chica (809) 523-6021, E-mail MalColate@hotmail.com or from Taxi Dave at (809) 687-3720/mornings, E-Mail david.santos@codetel.net.do.

E-mail is difficult if you don't type well.

JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Jim Hinsch

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The price to call the USA from the DR at a Codetel or TriCom office is at the best times, RD$4.90/min., which is about US$0.31/min., not ten cents/min.

Jim Hinsch JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Jim Hinsch

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You are right that calls are not collect unless placed that way, but calls are not 8-9 cents a minute. The price to call the USA from the DR at a Codetel or TriCom office is at the best times, RD$4.90/min., which is about US$0.31/min., not ten cents/min. The cost for dial-1 service from a household phone to the USA is RD$10/min., or US$0.63/min.

Jim Hinsch JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Tom

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Damm, I must be getting "preferred" rates as a 10 minute call has never cost more than 1.50-1.75 US

Tom
 
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Tom

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The only problem with the calling card, once you give it to your friend, it can be used to call anyone, not just you. If you don't give them the "code" the card is then wasted for everyone.

USe the Codetel Tricom option

Tom
 
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Jim Hinsch

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That's why you use small denominations. You give out the secret number, and you know it is good for about 15 minutes of calling to the USA for a US$5 card. It doesn't take much to keep track of calls that total only 15 minutes. Plus, if it is used to call elsewhere, you are only out US$5.

Jim Hinsch JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Codetel advertises their rates to the USA all over the place. The best rate is only good at certain times and that rate is RD$4.90. And I've seen the bill for calls I've made home using friend's phones at the cost is RD$10/min.

Jim Hinsch JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Sue

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I'm confused. Earlier in the week you were trying to find this guy and now a few days later you're complaining about the phone bill - how many times could he have called you in the last 2 days! Plus you said he's a dancer at the hotel. So buy a prepaid phone card,for $10 Cdn you can talk for an hour, and phone him at work instead of having him call you collect.
 
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Helen

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Boy oh boy...I had no idea that a little question like that would generate so many responses! I am certainly going to take all suggestions and advice to heart!!! And for Gio...thanks for the advice sweetie...I do know what I am getting in to and will try to get a handle on this pronto! As for the suggestion about the seeing the guy around the corner...Where is he?! lol If he can merengue like my guy...give me a shout!!! I will ask the guy tonight about the phone cards. Thanks for the suggestion Jim. I will also talk to him about the Codetel centres. He has sent me a couple of faxes but when I sent a fax back to the same number he sent it from, he does not seem to get them?! No idea what the heck is going on there?! The language barrier is another pain but, I will give it another week or so. Thanks again everyone!!! Helen