Cabarete Punta Goleta - no beach...

DR Mpe

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Walking the beach yesterday from the center of Cabarete down to El Rocon. Almost no beach to walk on in front of Punta Goleta bc of the wooden fence. How is this 60m measured? Water line changes I know...now Kite beach is huge, Bozo beach small and in the summer the opposite. No beach at El Rocon...

However Punta Goleta is a ugly project, my god the buildings...well they suck...So Mr Sceptic here I go...but it seems like most of the projects the latest years are just dumb and ugly. Thinking about the big buidling in the middle of Kite beach, Gran Cabanna, and that building that have the genital statues (sry fine art) in front of it.

Like the Victorian buildings btw. Nice buildings. No I do not own something there

Punta Goleta, esa vaina... tear it down.
 

samuel

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Punta Goleta, the end of Cabarete investments

I came to Cabarete with the idea of investing in a small new hotel. The Punta Goleta project made me realize that anyone with connections to the minister of tourism can build whatever they want, with no consideration to the ocean, wind, and most importantly the law.
How will my investment be protected, if my beach front neighbor will build a higher building than mine? At least with the new law I was supposed to have the Penthouse with ocean front view.
Tourism could have stopped Punta Goleta they didn't. Medio Ambiente could have stopped this monster they did not. Mayor- did not. The system is so dissapointing. What about all the buyers? If they will get a title, it means that the title department is also not really dependent as this building should not be there.
Oh I, I forgot the lawyers who make up contracts for apartments in buildings that are built with no permits. This means the the lawyers are partners in crime.
I am taking my kite somewhere else. Call me when this place will be ready for some long term development, if there will still be some place to launch a kite along the beach.
 

DR Mpe

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Tourism could have stopped Punta Goleta they didn't. Medio Ambiente could have stopped this monster they did not. Mayor- did not. .

Well I actually think that the Tourist Minister owned a big part of the land, so I think the approval process from the Tourist Department was a short meeting. Don?t quote me on that, but I know he had a big interest in the project. I am sure somebody on this forum has more info.
 

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beware erosion

Hi all,
I have lived in Cabarete for many years (part time). I have observed the beach for years. At punta Goletta, the erosion is very severe and I think anyone who buys there will have that headache... erosion.
Around 2002 there were huge sand dunes in front of Punta Goletta..... they were huge and at least 25 feet high. Punta Goletta had a deck bar on the beach....... that washed into the sea. Then they built a cement shower house.... also washed away. I wish I had my old pictures here with me.
There was a time when the erosion was so bad we thought the highway would be washed out. Then the government came in and pumped a few hundred million tons of sand, and the beach was back, temporally ! Buyer beware at this one.

carib
 

samuel

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No legal permits for Punta Goleta?

Well I actually think that the Tourist Minister owned a big part of the land, so I think the approval process from the Tourist Department was a short meeting. .

Do you mean to say that Punta Goleta is constructed with no legal permits?
Isn't there a new minister of Tourism now?
 

edm

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Erosion at Punta Goleta

Hi all,
At punta Goletta, the erosion is very severe and I think anyone who buys there will have that headache... erosion.
beware at this one.

Thank you, you saved me.
 

kite2live

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Erosion at Punta Goleta

What erosion should one expect at Millennium? Is it farther from the beach than Punta Goleta? Any permits issue there, too?
 

DR Mpe

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What erosion should one expect at Millennium? Is it farther from the beach than Punta Goleta? Any permits issue there, too?

Nobody said there were any permits issues with Punta Goleta. Not sure about the erosion problem, but anyone swith some common sense should taka the force of nature into account. Nature moved the beach from Punta Goleta before and oooops a supernice beach showed up in Sosua. Go Nature. :)
 

samuel

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Punta Goleta too high and too close to the beach?

Seems that some one read your note. This is from Today's DR1. "legal notifications to Millennium Resort and Seawinds at Punta Goleta in Puerto Plata, both under construction, informing them that they have 7 days to comply with the zoning laws".
Cabarete is standing still to see the reaction of the ministries. If either Mr. Jaime David or Mr. Francisco Javier Garcia want to get credibility this is their time to act.
 

samuel

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Punta Goleta too high and too close to the beach? from DR1 Travel

I can not find the link but this is what was forwarded to me:
DR1 Travel News

March 30, 2010
*Fred Couples wins Cap Cana Championship
*Hotels report max booking for Easter
*Keep to Cabarete's new zoning law
*Apple invests more in Cap Cana

Fred Couples ...

Hotels report max .....

Keep to Cabarete's new zoning law

Three Cabarete community groups have sent legal notifications to Millennium Resort and Seawinds at Punta Goleta in Puerto Plata, both under construction, informing them that they have 7 days to comply with the zoning laws on construction in the Cabarete area. The Federation for a Sustainable Cabarete, the Sosua and Cabarete Association for the Protection of the Environment and Tourism (Asoprocaso) and the Cabarete Development Association (Adeca) are encouraging the developers to stick to the latest urban plan of the Ministry of Tourism. The organizations have copied the Ministry of Tourism and the Ministry of Environment on the notifications.
The community organizations were instrumental in securing new urban rulings from the government that prevent high-rise development in the area in order to ensure constant wind flow. Cabarete is the Caribbean's leading windsurfing, kiteboarding and Laser sailing destination.
The Federation for a Sustainable Cabarete says that the move seeks to attract new investors to Cabarete. They want assurance that all builders have to comply with the same zoning laws.
In November 2009, President Leonel Fernandez issued a decree to regulate construction in the area of the natural lagoon and the beaches that form Cabarete's unique ecosystem.
Decree No. 847-09 regulates condominium and hotel construction to three floors at Punta Goleta, starting at a distance of 60 meters from the waterline.

*Apple invests ....
 

DR Mpe

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Credit counts

Seems that some one read your note. This is from Today's DR1. "legal notifications to Millennium Resort and Seawinds at Punta Goleta in Puerto Plata, both under construction, informing them that they have 7 days to comply with the zoning laws".
Cabarete is standing still to see the reaction of the ministries. If either Mr. Jaime David or Mr. Francisco Javier Garcia want to get credibility this is their time to act.

Sad to say I don?t think that they care much about those organisations. I am also sure that they could not care less of credibility from us. Credit in their accounts is main priority, especially election year.
 

edm

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Punta Goleta hurting the environment (kiteboarders)

Sad to say I don?t think that they care much about those organisations. .

It was these kind of organizations that got the supreme court to reverse the decision to build a cement factory in the national park of Los Haitises. Although you want to make it sound as if the DR is a country of morons, a lot of progress has been made in the past few years here in regards to protection of the environment.
 

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The developer never recieved the approval of Ocean Dream owners. He represented that he owns the land & project. This allows him more density.
 

DR Mpe

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It was these kind of organizations that got the supreme court to reverse the decision to build a cement factory in the national park of Los Haitises. Although you want to make it sound as if the DR is a country of morons, a lot of progress has been made in the past few years here in regards to protection of the environment.

Well, no morons, but I think that money often talks and a cement factory in a national park is a little different from allowing builders to build one more store or to build a little bit closer to the beach. Lets see what happens then in a week. I hope u r right.
 

CFA123

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Three Cabarete community groups have sent legal notifications to Millennium Resort and Seawinds at Punta Goleta in Puerto Plata, both under construction, informing them that they have 7 days to comply with the zoning laws on construction in the Cabarete area. The Federation for a Sustainable Cabarete, the Sosua and Cabarete Association for the Protection of the Environment and Tourism (Asoprocaso) and the Cabarete Development Association (Adeca) are encouraging the developers to stick to the latest urban plan of the Ministry of Tourism. The organizations have copied the Ministry of Tourism and the Ministry of Environment on the notifications.

Samuel, thanks for posting the details (I didn't look under tourist news for the article).

I'm curious what 'legal notifications' these 'community groups' sent & what basis they have, if any, to enforce them. As far as I know, these are essentially business associations & an interest group.
 

CFA123

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The developer never recieved the approval of Ocean Dream owners. He represented that he owns the land & project. This allows him more density.

Can you elaborate? Are you referring to Georges Coutu & saying Ocean Dream development owns/controls the Millenium property? That's a new one for me.
 

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The land OD & Millinium is held in a company owned by the developer. The owners of OD were never ask by the developer for approval of the millinium project. This was done so the developer could get more density & keep the OD owners from having a say in what was built next to thier homes.
 

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the land od & millinium is held in a company owned by the developer. The owners of od were never ask by the developer for approval of the millinium project. This was done so the developer could get more density & keep the od owners from having a say in what was built next to thier homes.

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!