conocer/Saber pregunta

[Contango]

conocer / Saber = to know.

If I am speaking to someone and I want to know more about them "personally".

es?

quiero conocer de ti?

"saber" is a masculine noun, but can also be a transitive verb, according to google.
"conocer" is also a transitive verb.

thanks for the lesson.

 

[Chirimoya]

There are subtle differences - conocer is 'to become familiar with' while saber is 'to know'.
Quiero conocerte/te quiero conocer - I want to get to know you
Quiero saber de ti - I'd like to know about you

 

[bob saunders]

Saber vs Conocer / Pedir vs. Preguntar
Here is a place for you to learn and play

 

[pollogringo]

Conocer can also be used in relation with one's experience with a place. In this context, it's used the same as when referring to having met or being familiar with a person.

Example:

He viajado a varios pueblos del Cibao pero no conozco a Jarabacoa.

Quiero conocer a Nueba Yol.

 

[dv8]

one small thing that does not give me problems since in polish there are also two separate words that neatly correspond with conocer and saber.

like pollo says, conocer is more connected to the knowledge/familiarity of a person or a place while saber is more abstract, referring to the experience or science, even.

 

[pollogringo]

To further complicate matters, what one knows of(lo que uno sabe de) a certain science or subject is referred to as conocimiento(knowledge), while sabidur?a(derivation of saber) means wisdom.

 

[Marianopolita]

Conocer can also be used in relation with one's experience with a place. In this context, it's used the same as when referring to having met or being familiar with a person.

Example:

He viajado a varios pueblos del Cibao pero no conozco a Jarabacoa.

Quiero conocer a Nueba Yol.

Do people say that conocer a... when referring to a place?



For example I would say-

Conozco a Juan or conozco a su novia.


But

Quiero conocer Madrid.

Me encantar?a conocer tu pa?s.

Quiero conocer Puerto Rico.


Just wondering.....


-MP.

 

[gonzo two]

Ordinary people say all sorts of things that are not in text books I suppose

 

[pollogringo]

Do people say that conocer a... when referring to a place?



For example I would say-

Conozco a Juan or conozco a su novia.


But

Quiero conocer Madrid.

Me encantar?a conocer tu pa?s.

Quiero conocer Puerto Rico.


Just wondering.....


-MP.

I have heard and read both. But you would certainly know better than me.

Edit

Conocer a is for people.
Conocer is for places.

Conocer a in relation to a place is incorrect usage.

Thanks, Marianopolita.

 

[Wishing you well]

Conocer Madrid.

Conocer Brazil.

Conocer a Madrid, is a no go. Conocer a Pollo Gringo, Conocer a Pedro is valid.

 

[Marianopolita]

I have heard and read both. But you would certainly know better than me.

Edit

Conocer a is for people.
Conocer is for places.

Conocer a in relation to a place is incorrect usage.

Thanks, Marianopolita.

I know it?s not said when referring to a place but I thought I would throw the question out there so you would go back and look at it.

When I read your sentence, it makes it sound like Jarabacoa is a person although varios pueblos is mentioned in the first part.

The personal a is an interesting grammar point in Spanish.


Cheers,

-MP.

 

[dv8]

but:
quiero conocerte and not quiero conocer a ti. on the other hand there is quiero conocer mas de ti.

miesposo (not a specialist, just a user albeit an educated one) says that conocer a polonia used to be correct and now it is more conocer polonia, without a. language, of course, evolves and changes so maybe this is not a huge mistake?

 

[pollogringo]

but:
quiero conocerte and not quiero conocer a ti. on the other hand there is quiero conocer mas de ti.

miesposo (not a specialist, just a user albeit an educated one) says that conocer a polonia used to be correct and now it is more conocer polonia, without a. language, of course, evolves and changes so maybe this is not a huge mistake?

I've also heard it both ways. But it seems that the current acceptable usage is with a when referring to a person and without a when referring a place.

 

[pollogringo]

The personal a is an interesting grammar point in Spanish.


Cheers,

-MP.

Another usage of a with a verb. To survive. Sobrevivir a. We survived the hurricane. Sobrevivimos al hurac?n.

 

[Marianopolita]

Another usage of a with a verb. To survive. Sobrevivir a. We survived the hurricane. Sobrevivimos al hurac?n.

Yes, this is a different concept and not an example of the personal a.

Sobrevivir a is an example of a verb that requires a preposition in Spanish. Many fall into this category whether it’s a, de, en, con, por or para.

Examples- aprender a, ayudar a, empezar a, insistir en, tratar de, etc.


-MP.

 

[Marianopolita]

verb game...

Here is a conocer vs saber word game. There are twenty questions. Select the correct verb to complete the phrase. It's very basic and simple. If you did not score 20, ask any questions you may have.

(The website is from a language school in Chile. I am going to look at it in more depth and if it proves to be helpful maybe we could have a thread with helpful language learning websites. The home page looks quite good).

In my opinion, the level is Beginners but regardless of your level it's always good to review the basics because this is where it all starts.

Conocer vs Saber (Know) Spanish Vocabulary Game to learn the difference (Common mistake in Spanish for English speakers) - Juego Vocabulario Espa?ol


Edited to add:

I just noticed the site has Intermediate and Advanced level grammar games as well.


-MP.

 

[pollogringo]

Excellent test.

 

[dv8]

cool test! 20/20 this is basic, as you said, but gives you a very good idea about the different uses of those words.

 

[Marianopolita]

cool test! 20/20 this is basic, as you said, but gives you a very good idea about the different uses of those words.

Indeed the test is basic and serves its purpose. As well, it's meant to be a good way to practice and a fun approach to language learning.

I actually looked at the website in more depth and I think the owners of the site have done a wonderful job at putting together a website that is organized, easy to use and incorporates putting grammatical concepts and vocabulary that are a part of language learning in general into a visible and fun way to learn the language. However, I am still a believer in the traditional way which is learning via textbooks and in the classroom which could be over a period of years of study to learn the language properly OR at least to get a solid foundation. Rome was not built in a day and one is not going to learn a language in a day. Those ads and CDs that promote 'learn xxx in ten days' is just false advertising. I think these online methods and CDs, videos etc are good compliments to language learning but the foundation comes from formal instruction.

I am going to spend some more time going through this website from Chile. I am very curious about the section on Chilean pronunciation. I think it will be fun to listen to and detect some of the differences and nuances. As well, I want to play some of the advanced grammar games. I am curious to see what they call advanced.


-MP.

 

[Xavier_Onassis]

saber is used for facts. No s? su direcci?n.

conocer is used for people and places. No conozco a Juan. Me gustaria conocer Par?s. Es un placer conocerle.

saber de means to know about, to know of. Yo s? de ?l, pero no lo conozco.