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I personally don't trust this whole "herd immunity" concept. I may be paranoid but there are still too many unknown about the virus at the moment. There seem to be something new coming out every day...Now, kids are coming up with Kawasaki disease like syndromes ? :eek: I will wait and sit for now, no herd para mi.
 
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Africaida said:
I personally don't trust this whole "herd immunity" concept. I may be paranoid but there are still too many unknown about the virus at the moment. There seem to be something new coming out every day...Now, kids are coming up with Kawasaki disease like syndromes ? :eek: I will wait and sit for now, no herd para mi.
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CV-19 may not have a herd immunity potential. I hope it does , because if it does not eventually 0.5% of the world is likely to die from it. Herd immunity is well known, well understood and accepted when it comes to pandemics that have it.

And to add on about the near future:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/social-distancing-research-coronavirus-2022-trnd/index.html
 
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Africaida said:
I personally don't trust this whole "herd immunity" concept. I may be paranoid but there are still too many unknown about the virus at the moment. There seem to be something new coming out every day...Now, kids are coming up with Kawasaki disease like syndromes ? :eek: I will wait and sit for now, no herd para mi.
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Herd immunity might be your best friend if the vaccine doesn't work. Brazil might be looking good by this time next year.
 
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They tested 100% of the sailors on the Theodore Roosevelt and a French carrier

Those results - albeit small populations - are good indicators
and are frightening

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Africaida said:
I personally don't trust this whole "herd immunity" concept. I may be paranoid but there are still too many unknown about the virus at the moment. There seem to be something new coming out every day...Now, kids are coming up with Kawasaki disease like syndromes ? :eek: I will wait and sit for now, no herd para mi.
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Given that China is currently dealing with reinfections I wouldn’t place much faith in herd immunity either. I’m surprised China even admitted the reinfections were occurring.
 
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Re-infections or faulty tests?

Some test positive for COVID-19 twice. So why do experts say reinfection is unlikely?
As China and Japan start to reopen after being shuttered by the coronavirus pandemic, doctors are finding that some patients are testing positive a second time, worrying many that immunity is impossible.
Some experts say the answer lies in faulty tests, but others have said the virus could be reactivating in people’s bodies.
Health officials in South Korea, however, say the sensitive tests just cannot tell the difference between a virus that is dead and a virus that still lives, according to the Korea Herald.
“COVID-19 is the most challenging pathogen we may have faced in recent decades,” Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) Deputy Director Kwon Joon-wook said, according to CNN. “At the moment, we think that there is no danger of further secondary or tertiary transmission.”
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Given that China is currently dealing with reinfections I wouldn’t place much faith in herd immunity either. I’m surprised China even admitted the reinfections were occurring.
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Then all the social distancing in the world is a complete waste of time.
 
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Then all the social distancing in the world is a complete waste of time.
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All that it is doing is SLOWING the spread...if you notice that most health officials are saying that they are trying to SLOW the spread.
Got to agree with you that social-distancing has not STOPPED the virus. The only way to completely stop this virus is to stop 100% of all human interactions in the world for 21 days ( which is impossible)
 
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It just inhibits the spread...
nothing will STOP it

as I posted eons ago (it seems)

You don't beat a pandemic
You survive it

actually, it was a quote from a scientist....
 
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Oh, the CV-19 pandemic is over, so social distancing worked and we are all done? Nonsense.

The only way a pandemic ends is if it runs its course. Possibly with some help from a functional vaccine. That said even NY City hospitals hosting some of the dumbest folk in the USA were not over run as was predicted by MSM. So, yes I guess it "worked" in that way.

Social distancing worked in destroying the world economy for certain.

It remains to be seen what happens next.

There is that! I must say. There is a reason social distancing worked so well in Germany. They had it before the pandemic started.
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You're not good with comprehension. No one said social distancing would stop the pandemic. What are you talking about. Again and try to comprehend this time; social distancing was designed so the hospitals would not be overwhelmed with patients. Yes it worked as designed.
 
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You're not good with comprehension. No one said social distancing would stop the pandemic. What are you talking about. Again and try to comprehend this time; social distancing was designed so the hospitals would not be overwhelmed with patients. Yes it worked as designed.
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I fully understand what social distancing can do with respect to this virus. It reduced the load on hospitals. MSM has talked people into thinking that is how you win. This virus kills less than 1% of the people it infects. Probably 0.5%. Some with bad reactions can be saved by being hospitalized.

My point is that it is not how you win. There is no win. The pandemic will run its course. Eventually. But the economy is ruined to save a small number of people. Take me for example. That is my point. Social distancing will end up being a loser.
 
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windeguy said:
I fully understand what social distancing can do with respect to this virus. It reduced the load on hospitals. MSM has talked people into thinkg that is how you win. This virus kills less than 1% of the people it infects. Some with bad reactions can be saved by being hospitalized.

It is not how you win. There is no win. The pandemic will run its course. Eventually. But the economy is ruined to save a small number of people. Take me for example. That is my point.
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Take you for example?
 
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Take you for example?
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I am, allegedly, in the high risk end of the pool since I am no longer "young". The social distancing is supposed to benefit my health but to the detriment of others livelihoods. Hey, it works for me. I am retired. I have not left my property at all in months. Just pointing out reality.

After this is over, a year or two from now it would seem, we can reflect on if closing the economy down was the correct course of action. I suspect there will be major disagreements then. Just like there are already.
 
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windeguy said:
I am, allegedly, in the high risk end of the pool since I am no longer "young". The social distancing is supposed to benefit my health but to the detriment of others livelihoods. Hey, it works for me. I am retired. I have not left my property at all in months. Just pointing out reality.

After this is over, a year or two from now it would seem, we can reflect on if closing the economy down was the correct course of action. I suspect there will be major disagreements then. Just like there are already.
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I have a few comorbids myself. I haven't left the house - at all. Cab is a contagion fest. My income come from external clients so I have been lucky in that respect.
 
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au contraire, the sheep are the ones who don masks ( i see them even driving with masks on) and stay at home and act like good gubmint puppets. The ones that would stand on one leg and hop if the gubmint told them to. The ones that separate paper,plastic and organics because the gubmint told them to. The vast majority of the deaths are the old and infirm. The only thing that really has changed in my life is that I must order take out, business goes on as does life. The silly lib news stations are even capitalizing on the "re-opening" of America". What a joke.
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The funniest ones are the guys on motos with masks and no helmet.
 
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