Definition of a sanky

[Matilda]

In DR1 chat last night we were talking about what constitutes a Sanky, seeing as so many people seem to use the word for any less than wealthy Dominican. So I just thought it might be interesting to see if we could come to some consensus. For example there appears to be no problem with the definition of a prostitute - a woman who is paid for sex.

In my opinion the word Sanky is overused.

Not every poor Dominican man is a Sanky
Not every poor Dominican who marries a foreign woman is a Sanky
Not every Dominican who works in a hotel or specifically animation is a Sanky.

I think a Sanky is a man who has relationships with several women at the same time with the sole purpose of extracting as much money from each and every one of them. This is achieved by fooling the women that he is in love with every one of them, and they are the only woman he has.

Any thoughts??

Matilda

 

[rice&beans]

Ahead of his time...a true example....he was DA man....

In DR1 chat last night we were talking about what constitutes a Sanky, seeing as so many people seem to use the word for any less than wealthy Dominican. So I just thought it might be interesting to see if we could come to some consensus. For example there appears to be no problem with the definition of a prostitute - a woman who is paid for sex.

In my opinion the word Sanky is overused.

Not every poor Dominican man is a Sanky
Not every poor Dominican who marries a foreign woman is a Sanky
Not every Dominican who works in a hotel or specifically animation is a Sanky.

I think a Sanky is a man who has relationships with several women at the same time with the sole purpose of extracting as much money from each and every one of them. This is achieved by fooling the women that he is in love with every one of them, and they are the only woman he has.

Any thoughts??

Matilda

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/51418611@N05/4980289160/" title="Sanky Panky by bocachica64, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/4980289160_55af5e2376_m.jpg" width="170" height="225" alt="Sanky Panky" /></a>

Porfirio Rubirosa


This guy was the Babe Ruth of "Sanky Panky".......did the word P L A Y A evolve from this guy?.....maybe?......he certaintly wasn't playin baseball.....who would?....lol....:smoke::smoke:.....busy guy......:smoke:


Dominican Books: Porfirio Rubirosa: The Ultimate Sanky

 

[Alyonka]

I agree with the above, but since I have never met such a person in real life, just read about them, I define a "sanky" is someone who is in a relationship for "fake", not for the person they are with, but just to get something out of it for their own personal good and satisfaction - visa, money, gifts, ego boost, sex, etc, etc, etc. Once the goal is achieved - the person gets discarded and sanky moves on to the next "target." A lot of men in the US who just want to "hang out" and have not serious intentions for a relationship are sankies from my perspective. That is why they don't "get" what they are looking for.

 

[CFA123]

Matilda, that would qualify as a sankie, but I'd go with:

A man, in areas frequented by tourists, who seeks out vulnerable women for personal gain... be it financial, a visa, or whatever... and will lie, steal, play on one's emotions as necessary to reach his goals with little or no concern for his 'victim'. While he may have a job, this is his vocation... and it is a secret to few, other than his target(s).

They're prostitutes of a sort, only they provide the illusion of being something else, run a silent tab, and hope to collect with interest at a future date.

If both parties know it's a relationship of convenience and nothing more, no problem. The problem I have is the deception.

And yes, there is misuse of the term, even to the point of guys referring to being cheated by their sankie, even when referring to a girl.

 

[AlterEgo]

Matilda, I'm with you 100%. Many of the posters here, particularly some of the men who shall remain nameless, bandy around the sanky label waaayyyyy too much. Are there sankys in DR? You betcha. A lot of them. But to someone like me who knows multitudes of Dominican men - albeit they are my husband's family and friends - from all walks of Dominican life, from poor to extremely wealthy, I know that in the 'real' DR [away from AIs, tourism, etc] you don't meet sankys.

To paint all poorer Dominican men with the same brush is just wrong. :angry::angry:

We have several very brave Dominican men who post on DR1 - Extreme, Lando Calrisian, Bachata, just to name a few, and no one would ever classify them as sankys. Why? They represent the average Dominican man that I know.

AE

 

[dalila05]

In DR1 chat last night we were talking about what constitutes a Sanky, seeing as so many people seem to use the word for any less than wealthy Dominican. So I just thought it might be interesting to see if we could come to some consensus. For example there appears to be no problem with the definition of a prostitute - a woman who is paid for sex.

In my opinion the word Sanky is overused.

Not every poor Dominican man is a Sanky
Not every poor Dominican who marries a foreign woman is a Sanky
Not every Dominican who works in a hotel or specifically animation is a Sanky.

I think a Sanky is a man who has relationships with several women at the same time with the sole purpose of extracting as much money from each and every one of them. This is achieved by fooling the women that he is in love with every one of them, and they are the only woman he has.

Any thoughts??

Matilda

good thread and good post indeed
for me the definition of a sanky is :
an heartless man who will do anything to get what he need financially.
someone who doesnt have any pride ,someone who do not care about the feeling of someone else.
it remind me this woman i met throught a forum,the guy used her so badly,she booked and paid 4 ticket flight until he finally decided to come and lived with her and at the end he left because the lifestyle was not up to his standard.flight back paid by one of his others victims.
in fact he had about 6/7 womens who used to sent him money so the guy was better off living in dr with the money of thoses naive womens.
they were fighting hard for this scums,master sanky as i call him :ermm:

 

[AnnaC]

My take has always been that there are sankies in every walk of life. A sanky is a scam artist a gigolo. They can be found in every class level and are not exclusive to the DR.

A scam artist/sankie is anyone rich,poor, educated or not that will lie and fake his/her way into someone's heart when indeed they have no feelings or idea of what love is toward that person for the purpose of obtaining things or money.

 

[AZB]

Lets not bring up webster's dictionary's definition to this word. its quite simple. it does not matter what you people dig up what matters is what sankie means to dominicans and who is called a sankie. No need to complicate this matter just because many here don't have a real job while living in DR. You people just beat every subject to death.
What is a sankie?
Sankie is a poor slum dog in Dominican republic who has no future ahead. 99% of the times works in tourists resorts, beach, tourist area discos etc. They are the same guys you see many girls on Dr1 bragging about. lets see what these boyfriends of Dr1 girls have in common:
they are all dirt poor
they are all uneducated but some seem to speak some english and other languages but non of them can write in any language without making million mistakes in grammar or spelling. They can't even write in spanish correctly.
They speak like slum dogs. They live in dirt poor shacks and villages.
All are looking for a way out or to make a quick buck from visiting ladies, some even sleep with gays.
So please if you are confused who a sankie is, just think of your boyfriend whom you met on your vacation.
Now why the confusion? This is 2010 and we are still wondering who a sankie is? Please folks, open up your eyes.
By the way, Mr. rubiosos was not your average sankie. i am not even in agreement with the poster that he was a sankie. he was closer to james bond than to your local beach scum stud in sosua. Mr. Rubioso was educated and had money, he was desired by rich and famous people and he lived well, with or without the women. He was famous in politics and in among the celebrities. he was not born in some slum near sosua. So please spare his name from this thread.
AZB

 

[catcherintherye]

In any event, rice and beans offered the consummate example of a sanky. Although Porfirio Rubirosa was not born into poverty, his only occupation in life to to hunt after and marry wealthy women.

He had little formal education, and absolutely no skills off the polo field and away from the bedroom. In other words, he lived off the wealth of women.

His marriages to Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, and Zsa Zsa Gabor made him a very wealthy man.

The perfect sanky in every respect, except of course he wasn't black and certainly not poverty-stricken, at the end.

 

[Robert]

Ask a Dominican the definition of a Sanky. It's much closer to AZB's description than what many of you would like to believe. Sure, lower class and middle class Dominicans will have a slightly different perception, but not much different.

Most Dominican girls of all classes will screw up their faces and say yuk, if you ask for a definition. They are regarded as low lives and unfortunately some tourists get tagged the same by Dominicans, guilt by association.

Just because the woman changing your bed sheets smiles when she see's you with your new found friend, don't assume the smile is genuine. They are laughing about you behind your back. They laugh about you when they get home from work etc.

Gigolo and Sanky are VERY different, specially in the eyes of Dominicans.

 

[AlterEgo]

It seems the chum worked.

In any event, rice and beans offered the consummate example of a sanky. Although Porfirio Rubirosa was not born into poverty, his only occupation in life to to hunt after and marry wealthy women.

He had little formal education, and absolutely no skills off the polo field and away from the bedroom. In other words, he lived off the wealth of women.

His marriages to Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, and Zsa Zsa Gabor made him a very wealthy man.

The perfect sanky in every respect, except of course he wasn't black and certainly not poverty-stricken, at the end.

Absolutely the truth catcher....but you forgot to mention his 'pepper mill'.

AE

 

[Major448]

A sanky may have a quite different take on this. Now, of course I don't know any, but, overheard at the sanky training center in a popular Puerta Plata AI:

A sanky is a young, hard working dominican guy, just trying to make ends meet. He may have two wives (one legal, one not), four girlfriends, and ten children to feed. There is no welfare system in his country. He is willing to do what it takes to survive. Poor sanky!

He sees "wealthy" foreign women, coming into his country from "wealthy" places overseas (he's seen the lifestyles on television, so he know's that there is wealth "over there"). He sees them order a meal and drinks, and then leave a tip that is bigger than his daily pay (and maybe even his weekly pay). He may not know what they paid for airfare. But he knows that what they pay to stay at the AI for a few days is more than he could make in a few months.

These women smile at him, touch him all over his body, and treat him like a rock star. Some have had too much to drink. Some not. They don't know his laguage very well, so whatever they do manage to say is never very subtle. And they send little signals and little hints that he could even make a little of that money, if only he would ....

They buy him gifts, give him more money than he could make by working, and see to his every need. Of course, he makes sure that some of that money feeds his kids ... right? And he knows how it all works, because he's aware of what the "wealthy" foreign "men" spend their money on in places like Sosua and Boca Chica. He just wants some of that same "economic opportunity". He's not hurting them economically. It's only equal to their "tip" money. And what "these women" want is ....

Some of these women will even take him back to her country to keep as their own personal love slave, for as long as they can keep each other happy and meet each other's needs. Notice, in the previous sentence, that this is the only time that the word "love" is used. They each, woman and sanky, have their own personal definition/expectation about the meaning of that word. If there is no discussion or agreement ahead of time on what it all means, there may be some conflict about it in the future. (And it's hard to have a discussion if you don't know each other's language well.)

There's a lot of discussion about the risk factors of getting a visa for a sanky, so I won't go into that. But it could also work in reverse ... a woman using a sanky for dominican citizenship. He has to be very careful that she's not just using him to get dominican citizenship!! According to the legal area of DR1:

In addition to being the offspring of a Dominican citizen, you can acquire Dominican citizenship through marriage. A foreign woman who marries a Dominican has the right to Dominican citizenship. This does not work in reverse. A foreign man who marries a Dominican woman does not have the automatic right to Dominican citizenship.

Poor sanky!!!

(Writing this with tongue in cheek, of course!)

 

[catcherintherye]

but you forgot to mention his 'pepper mill'

AE

LOL! Indeed! His 11 inch "pepper mill", quite the equipment, by any standard.

 

[Alyonka]

Well, I guess, I have never met a real sanky. To me sanky is just a fake and a liar. And I don't think my Mom and the rest of my family would approve of me having "boyfriends" for a week of vacation. I can only have one where I live once a year or so. They would prefer me to have a nice financially stable husband, of course. But I can only marry for true love.

 

[AnnaC]

In any event, rice and beans offered the consummate example of a sanky. Although Porfirio Rubirosa was not born into poverty, his only occupation in life to to hunt after and marry wealthy women.

He had little formal education, and absolutely no skills off the polo field and away from the bedroom. In other words, he lived off the wealth of women.

His marriages to Doris Duke, Barbara Hutton, and Zsa Zsa Gabor made him a very wealthy man.

The perfect sanky in every respect, except of course he wasn't black and certainly not poverty-stricken, at the end.

It's been a while since I agreed with you but I absolutely agreed with you.

He was using women to gain money, social status and was doing it at a higher level than sankies do in the DR but in the end it's all the same crap. Using/lying/charming women for your own personal gain.

James Bond was interested in getting into the pants of beautiful women not their pockets.

 

[AnnaC]

LOL! Indeed! His 11 inch "pepper mill", quite the equipment, by any standard.

What???? I'd be tempted to pay a few bucks for that. :nervous:What's the current rate? Oh wait the guy is dead now.

 

[dr_dreamin]

Pot and Kettle?

but non of them can write in any language without making million mistakes in grammar or spelling.
AZB

It's just as well you included other characteristics, or you might develop a questionable reputation.

 

[Major448]

So, if there are no "black" dominicans - they WILL tell you that they are moreno, not negro - and the only ones considered to be black in the DR are haitians, does that mean that sankys are haitians?

 

[AnnaC]

So, if there are no "black" dominicans - they WILL tell you that they are moreno, not negro - and the only ones considered to be black in the DR are haitians, does that mean that sankys are haitians?

Did we mention that sankies come in all colours?

 

[rice&beans]

007.........not

Lets not bring up webster's dictionary's definition to this word. its quite simple. it does not matter what you people dig up what matters is what sankie means to dominicans and who is called a sankie. No need to complicate this matter just because many here don't have a real job while living in DR. You people just beat every subject to death.
What is a sankie?
Sankie is a poor slum dog in Dominican republic who has no future ahead. 99% of the times works in tourists resorts, beach, tourist area discos etc. They are the same guys you see many girls on Dr1 bragging about. lets see what these boyfriends of Dr1 girls have in common:
they are all dirt poor
they are all uneducated but some seem to speak some english and other languages but non of them can write in any language without making million mistakes in grammar or spelling. They can't even write in spanish correctly.
They speak like slum dogs. They live in dirt poor shacks and villages.
They are 90% blacks.
All are looking for a way out or to make a quick buck from visiting ladies, some even sleep with gays.
So please if you are confused who a sankie is, just think of your boyfriend whom you met on your vacation.
Now why the confusion? This is 2010 and we are still wondering who a sankie is? Please folks, open up your eyes.
By the way, Mr. rubiosos was not your average sankie. i am not even in agreement with the poster that he was a sankie. he was closer to james bond than to your local beach scum stud in sosua. Mr. Rubioso was educated and had money, he was desired by rich and famous people and he lived well, with or without the women. He was famous in politics and in among the celebrities. he was not born in some slum near sosua. So please spare his name from this thread.
AZB

AnnaC nailed it read post #7....Robert's prob right about the words....I don't know if Sanky Panky was being used back in Porfirio's day....but I do know Gigolo was around..also in the DR I don't think there were to many AI'S on the Island at that time....(the so called breeding ground...also a sanky could be anywhere on the Island).....If there were, my guess is he would've been off the Island at the ripe old age of 14......I know it bothers you AZB....that this guy was well dressed..somewhat educated, had some bucks....(guess how he got them?).....so in your eyes it goes against everything you stand for....and I'm fine with that.....he did what he did, and was really good at it...and probably
caused more pleasure than pain.....lol.....BUT that's anther story for the Ladies to discuss....hahaha......but by todays standards....this is not the type of Sanky that everyone identifies with......