Dominican Consul Affected by Fires in LA

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LA & California brought this on themselves with their concentration on DEI and Wokeism abandoning sane municipal management by promoting freaks - in that there is no doubt.
While I'm not the most religious person it's like it says in the Bible in Hosea 8:7

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind... "
If I was a 20 something and needed a job and\or a career I would make my way to So. Cal. In the next 4 to six months jobs will be abundant for anyone that can swing a hammer, drive a skid or push a shovel. Newsum and Bass have canceled their political careers.
 

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If I was a 20 something and needed a job and\or a career I would make my way to So. Cal. In the next 4 to six months jobs will be abundant for anyone that can swing a hammer, drive a skid or push a shovel. Newsum and Bass have canceled their political careers.
It will be 100% Hispanic crews, so if you are Mexican yes go but now only to haul debris.
I used to build homes in CA. Hired locals and paid them well. Back in the 80s I paid $20/hr for a skilled carpenter with tools
Around early 200os CA Developers turned to low cost Mexican labor.
I managed one Condo project subcontracted out to a framing contractor who then subbed to a Mexican crew that framed walls in Sacramento and drove them on a flatbed 100 miles to Chico
Needless to say it was terrible work, lousy lumber and the walls were so segmented the walls didn't line well and by the time they were lifted with cranes they were loose. Window frames were crooked and many studs were cracked from the rough handling.
Everything was done with a nail gun, which does not draw boards tight and I had to come in with my own guys with myself to spend several weeks correcting their sloppy work.
So going to S. Cal is a lost cause. And by the time they clear the lots & get permits from LA (if they ever do) to rebuild it will be 3 years before the first nail is driven
 
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It will be 100% Hispanic crews, so if you are Mexican yes go but now only to haul debris.
I used to build homes in CA. Hired locals and paid them well. Back in the 80s I paid $20/hr for a skilled carpenter with tools
Around early 200os CA Developers turned to low cost Mexican labor.
I managed one Condo project subcontracted out to a framing contractor who then subbed to a Mexican crew that framed walls in Sacramento and drove them on a flatbed 100 miles to Chico
Needless to say it was terrible work, lousy lumber and the walls were so segmented the walls didn't line well and by the time they were lifted with cranes they were loose. Window frames were crooked and many studs were cracked from the rough handling.
Everything was done with a nail gun, which does not draw boards tight and I had to come in with my own guys with myself to spend several weeks correcting their sloppy work.
So going to S. Cal is a lost cause. And by the time they clear the lots & get permits from LA (if they ever do) to rebuild it will be 3 years before the first nail is driven
somebody will make coin. Those lots will not remain vacant. Especially the ones close to the ocean.
 

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It will be 100% Hispanic crews, so if you are Mexican yes go but now only to haul debris.
I used to build homes in CA. Hired locals and paid them well. Back in the 80s I paid $20/hr for a skilled carpenter with tools
Around early 200os CA Developers turned to low cost Mexican labor.
I managed one Condo project subcontracted out to a framing contractor who then subbed to a Mexican crew that framed walls in Sacramento and drove them on a flatbed 100 miles to Chico
Needless to say it was terrible work, lousy lumber and the walls were so segmented the walls didn't line well and by the time they were lifted with cranes they were loose. Window frames were crooked and many studs were cracked from the rough handling.
Everything was done with a nail gun, which does not draw boards tight and I had to come in with my own guys with myself to spend several weeks correcting their sloppy work.
So going to S. Cal is a lost cause. And by the time they clear the lots & get permits from LA (if they ever do) to rebuild it will be 3 years before the first nail is driven
I love that Laguna beach area. The Montage hotel in Laguna beach is one of the best hotels I have ever stayed. I hope it survives.
 

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I watched a video today of a guy who saved his house by pumping water from his pool to a sprinkler on his roof.

His was the only house that survived in his neighborhood.

Dumb luck, I'm sure.
 
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The media is already making up new weather terms. "Super heated power storm" , " fire rain" , The culprit reportedly is too much fossil fuels being used.
A guy was arrested last week with a blow torch in hand but California let him go because people like him are far more important than the average taxpayer in that state.
 
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While I agree that obviously wood as a building material burns a bit better than cement, a lot can be done prior to the fire ever reaching any wood constructions. Wooden houses are the norm where we're at the moment, currently in fact living in a house that above the foundation is completely out of wood (aside from the firewall for the fireplace), and this house is close to being 100 years old. As I know the history of the house, I know that aside from a bit of paint for the outside wall, nothing has been done aside from renewing electricity and plumbing over the years. One benefit of wooden construction is that it "lives". If anything happens in the ground, a house built from concrete develops cracks while a wooden construction simply adjusts to the new state. Obviously with limits, but still.

Near us, there are also museum-like buildings, also made completely out of wood (above the foundation), that are indeed hundreds of years old, with minimal maintenance required. Once it's properly built, it lasts.
The house F Scott Fitzgerald lived for a while in Westport, CT is still there as a private residence. It blends in with the other houses on that road. Yet. that house was built for a farmer in the 1700’s before the USA was the USA.* Guess what is most common material it’s made of?

You can see it in the beginning.

Now, the houses that were destroyed in Pacific Palisades and other areas around LA for the most part weren’t new houses. Not as old as the one in Westport, but a long time ago (before drones were popular and aerial photos of anywhere were easy to find) I bought one of several books by Bob Cameron, “Above Los Angeles.” All photos there in a large book were taken by him from a helicopter in the 1970’s and 1980’s, depending on the place. Pacific Palisades is in a few of the photos and the footprint of the houses then look very similar to most of the houses as seen in Google Earth. This is comparing photos from about half a century ago with satellite images of yesterday so to speak. Point in, many were destroyed in the fire, but look how long it took a massive wildfire to hit that area! Had it not been for the fire, those homes would still be there regardless the materials they were built with.

* Even the current DR hardly had a population back when that house was built as Spain was still promoting immigration from the Canary Islands in order to boost the Dominican population vis-a-vis the rapid increase population of the French colony had in a short time (mostly because of the Africans the French were importing.)
 

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somebody will make coin. Those lots will not remain vacant. Especially the ones close to the ocean.
It will take YEARS for permits to rebuild. So if construction workers want to hang around waiting for insurance companies and government permits, they will starve and also have NO PLACE TO LIVE...
 

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UPDATE. The governor of CA signed an executive order to allow rebuilding to be done faster. Maybe that will help expedite that process.
 
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It will take YEARS for permits to rebuild. So if construction workers want to hang around waiting for insurance companies and government permits, they will starve and also have NO PLACE TO LIVE...
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Where will the workers rebuilding Pacific Palisades live and how many years will it take to rebuild ALL of the houses there?
That is just one location of devastation. The fires are not yet contained.
 

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Perhaps people will have new houses in a couple two, three years. If they had insurance or the government pays for the rebuild.


 

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Boy this post really got off topic let alone not DR related. Gave all the MAGA's a chance to sound off.
 

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Do you think a new rebuilt house in the new Pacific Palisades will be economical enough for the Dominican consul to live there? He will have nice views of the Pacific from his living room.
 

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I spent a lot of time in California when I was younger. What they've done to that state is appalling. I had no idea they had a Dominican Consulate in the state and I definitely had no idea they had enough Dominicans living there to need those services.
There's a lot more Dominicans here now than when I first moved a few years ago. I think COVID caused a migration of a lot of east coast Dominicans in search of better weather and quality of life. We have a few restaurants now too...
 

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Nals, homes in pac pal will be in the millions. Is he that rich?
Arnaldo, where is here?