Father of murdered pastor sent to jail

[Dolores]

Alternate judge Carol Heredia of the Permanent Attention Office of Santo Domingo West ordered three months of preventive custody in Najayo Jail to Mariano Antonio Muñoz Concepción, Muñoz Concepción is the father of newly weds, 32-year old Christian pastor Elizabeth Muñoz who together with her 35-year old husband Joel Diaz was shot by National Police agents in Villa Altagracia in March 2021.

Mariano Muñoz is charged with attempted murder. He was arrested accused of importing a AM-15 and a XD-9 in two tanks from United States. The firearms would be to “avenge” the death of his daughter, according to the Public Prosecutor’s Office.

According to the Public Prosecutor’s Office, Mariano intended to attack the police officers involved in the death of his daughter, and the judges and prosecutors handling the case.

It is recalled that Elizabeth Muñoz was...

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[chico bill]

Hard to prove intent for a crime that did not occur. Attempted murder ? Did he every make an attempt ?
Maybe he just bought them for protection against over-zealous police, like the ones who murdered his daughter and husband.

Don't forget how they were slaughtered for simply driving :

This is how the murder of the evangelical husband and wife in Villa Altagracia occurred, according to the Prosecutor’s Office.

<p>Santo Domingo, DR. The account of the facts about the murder of the married couple Joel Díaz and Elizabeth Muñoz, constructed by the Public Prosecutor’s Office, points out the disproportionate and excessive manner in which the six National Police officers who caused their death acted. The...

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[Kipling333]

Not one of the policemen who murdered this couple was prosecuted and only one was detained temporarily , no doubt until the public fury subsided. The accounts given by witnesses differ substantially from that given by the police and there were many witnesses to the murders. The car had virtually stopped and the poor people did not even have a chance to get out before they were mown down by fire from high powered weapons. The parson. his wife and the two people behind were guilty of no crime ,they were law abiding citizens. The father of the wife should not have bought guns but the total injustice of the situation does not warrant his incarceration..the weapons could simply have been confiscated .

 

[Facepalm Supreme]

Sooooo where is the middle ground here? I did a search in the forum but there are only 2 threads with a grand total of 1 reply between them.

Something doesn't sound right. Why did the police shoot? Did the car not stop? It sounds like what US personnel used to do in Iraq during the occupation to potential suicide bomber cars.

Was there some sort of personal vendetta thing going on between the families of the deceased and police and or the individuals who were in charge of the police who fired that day?

I'd love a more thorough understanding of this situation. Anyone have anything to add?


I will say this - not one report mentions that these folks were armed, or had drugs or did anything violent towards the police and everyone points out that this was a car full of Christian evangelicals. So in this country you can be one of the "more/most upstanding citizens" and outright slaughtered with impunity. Not a good look and it should cause all of us, at least those of us who value our lives to reconsider our positions here.

That said, were they using the vehicle as a weapon or thought to be doing so? If so maybe it would be better to allow them through and then to pursue them with vehicles and radios instead of shooting into a car full of people.

 

[Kipling333]

This horrible incident was heavily covered in the Dominican papers at the time. There was no personal vendetta because the police did not know who they shot. The car belonging to the victims was not speeding but was traveling slowly . The people inside the car were not armed except for their bibles which did not protect them . No one in the cars had drugs or was associated with drugs. The Christians were returning from an evangelical event somewhere near San Cristobal quietly and peacefully . The police were looking for a car that may have contained a man who caused some incident in Bonao. According to one report the police slowed down cars behind the car containing the Christians and then opened fire on the people and there are photos showing 12 bullets that penetrated the car. The Fiscal in Villa Altagracia requested that the Public Prosecutor arrest the officers but nothing happened except for a temporary confinement . The police maintain that they had been confused ,,that is their exact word, and thought they were shooting someone else. There are no extenuating circumstances and there is no justice for the poor .

 

[CristoRey]

Sooooo where is the middle ground here? I did a search in the forum but there are only 2 threads with a grand total of 1 reply between them.

Something doesn't sound right. Why did the police shoot? Did the car not stop? It sounds like what US personnel used to do in Iraq during the occupation to potential suicide bomber cars.

Was there some sort of personal vendetta thing going on between the families of the deceased and police and or the individuals who were in charge of the police who fired that day?

I'd love a more thorough understanding of this situation. Anyone have anything to add?


I will say this - not one report mentions that these folks were armed, or had drugs or did anything violent towards the police and everyone points out that this was a car full of Christian evangelicals. So in this country you can be one of the "more/most upstanding citizens" and outright slaughtered with impunity. Not a good look and it should cause all of us, at least those of us who value our lives to reconsider our positions here.

That said, were they using the vehicle as a weapon or thought to be doing so? If so maybe it would be better to allow them through and then to pursue them with vehicles and radios instead of shooting into a car full of people.

They were assasinated in broad daylight by the order of a commander who had a very nasty reputation in La Vega. It was a clear case of mistaken identity as reported by several media outlets at the time. Many people were upset the commander was never charged for ordering the hit.
RIP to them folks

Guns are so easy to obtain in this country illegally I can't imagine why anyone would be dumb enough to try importing them by mail but then again...

 

[Kipling333]

That is totally incorrect . There was no one from La Vega involved. A good account of the murders is given in El Nacional which is still online but is also in other papers. The Fiscal Fatima Sanchez from Villa Altagracia presented accusations against nine police agents including the Commander in Villa Alatagracia whose name is Colonel Cesar Martinez Lora ,She accused him of not only being present at the time of the murders but then deliberately destroying evidence. This colonel ordered some of the police officers to take the police vehicle used at the scene to the Rio La Represa which is 5 kilometres from the murder scene . The Christians were in a white KIA K5 .. a very common car in the DR and this was also the same make, model and colour of car that it is alleged some delinquents were in who allegedly assaulted someone earlier in Bonoa . The dead were buried on Good Friday 2021. The father was foolish and is in prison whilst the murderers of his daughter are free.

 

[CristoRey]

That is totally incorrect . There was no one from La Vega involved. .

You are correct.
Not sure why I misspoke claiming La Vega (i suck at multi-tasking) when in fact the incident happened in Villa Alatagracia.
Thank you for correcting me.
The details of the crime unfortunately are the same.

 

[Kipling333]

That is quite ok ..you got the road right !! To finish what happened , in an attempt to further muddy the waters of blame the police in Altagracia at one stage presented two rasos who they said had been in the crew at the scene when actually they had a free day off. It reminded me of an experience i had when my home, then in Zona Colonial was burgled and after paying some money to the police I had my goods returned quickly . The police produced a culprit who I had never seen before but he produced sound evidence that he was on a bus from Monte Plata at the time. The real culprit who worked hand in hand with the police in robberies had followed me to my home from the supermarket in El Conde. I found that out later. Unfortunately the PN is corrupt from top to bottom.

 

[CristoRey]

While were on the topic of (this thread) why he was arrested.
There is no shortage of illegal deadly firearms in this country. I am
glad this shipment was intercepted but it makes me wonder how many
have made it thru over the last decade. I wonder if these two incidents were
somehow connected. These are not your uncle's old rusty six shooters.
Check out these pictures.

Tribunal de Santiago ratifica medidas de coerción a imputados por tráfico de armas en la Operación KAF – GenteTuya.com

gentetuya.com

 

[JD Jones]

While were on the topic of (this thread) why he was arrested.
There is no shortage of illegal deadly firearms in this country. I am
glad this shipment was intercepted but it makes me wonder how many
have made it thru over the last decade. I wonder if these two incidents were
somehow connected. These are not your uncle's old rusty six shooters.
Check out these pictures.

Tribunal de Santiago ratifica medidas de coerción a imputados por tráfico de armas en la Operación KAF – GenteTuya.com

gentetuya.com

It really makes one wonder when the amount and type of arms and money are presented.

 

[Aguaita29]

They say he was planning a mass shooting. He wanted to kill a few cops.