Garbage in Rivers...

[MoJoInDR]

I was looking at some videos on pollution in rivers and came across a short video (TikTok or something) on a simple cleanup technique being carried out in Guatemala.

Okay, so I know from past experience that although some are allowed to post non-DR-specific links, I've been penalized for doing so, therefore I won't... But seeing it as important to a developing country such as the DR, I did a little research and found that garbage in rivers is most certainly a big problem in the DR... And... It seems like there is a Strategic Projects and Special Programs of the Presidency (Propeep) organization that is developing an ECO5RD project that aims to do something about this problem. I'll give a link to a... Dominican Today... short article from 2021 about it.

When people think of garbage messing up the environment in the DR, the first obvious thought is in regard to the beaches, which is understandable... But rivers are very important to the well-being of the ecosystem of the interior of the island (there are a few very informative websites on this, but you'll need to do your own Google search as they are not DR-specific... Maybe I can give a starting point... Shoal Conservation).

My reason for creating the thread is two-fold...

1... As a country develops (such as has been happening in the DR), the garbage it produces increases, and the local ecosystem often suffers, often to a point that is irreversible.

2... Could there be a potential business opportunity here? Whereas already established private garbage clean-up businesses are focused on beaches, are any focused on rivers?

As I was trying to point out with my last two links in my now closed thread on Forests in the DR, there may be possible financial grants available from outside of the DR sources — and possibly even the DR government — for supporting business efforts that are focused on natural environment maintenance... Such as cleaning and maintaining the rivers in the DR.

Here's the link to the Dominican Today article...

4K tons of trash dumped in Dominican Republic’s rivers daily

<p>Santo Domingo.- The Minister in charge of Strategic Projects and Special Programs of the Presidency (Propeep), Leonel -Neney- Cabrera, revealed that 14,000 tons of solid waste are produced daily in the country, of which only 10,000 are collected. The rest goes to the rivers and streams...

dominicantoday.com

 

[keepcoming]

This is a problem that has been around for years. There have also been several threads here on DR1 about this, as well as many more recent articles written about the problem.

 

[MoJoInDR]

This is a problem that has been around for years. There have also been several threads here on DR1 about this, as well as many more recent articles written about the problem.

I don't doubt it... Garbage is an age-old problem throughout the world... But with each new day comes new thinking towards it, and new technology to support efforts dealing with it.

I can research the other threads on DR1 about this matter and see what was shared on them.

 

[MoJoInDR]

Here is a list of previous DR1 threads on garbage (using the search word "garbage" as the title). Most seem to be on garbage dumps and pick-up matters, but I did see one from the News section on an effort tackling garbage in the Isabela and Ozama rivers... And, interestingly enough, it mentions monetary payments to those collecting the garbage.

Here's the search list...

DR1.com - Dominican Republic News & Travel Information Service

dr1.com

And here's the specific News thread...

City government tackles garbage in Isabela and Ozama rivers

National District Mayor Carolina Mejia met with dozens of community garbage collecting groups working in the areas off the banks of the Isabela and Ozama river to tackle the problem of garbage in the area. The groups are asking for a 40% increase in the price of a ton of refuse to avoid more...

dr1.com

 

[keepcoming]

There is no need to post search results, the suggestion was made for your benefit. But thank you.

 

[MoJoInDR]

I also came across this interesting informative article on the matter of garbage in DR rivers, on the Taino Farm website of all places (there is a large river that runs through the farm).

Here's a link to it...

Explore Trash Solutions in the Dominican Republic – Taíno Farm

tainofarm.com

 

[keepcoming]

Maybe post what your ideas are about cleaning up the trash in the DR? What solutions do you think would work? Most of the articles you have posted, many of us have already seen/read, or they have been previously posted. Otherwise, this thread is just one of many we have already had.

 

[Unit5]

I also came across this interesting informative article on the matter of garbage in DR rivers, on the Taino Farm website of all places (there is a large river that runs through the farm).

Here's a link to it...

Explore Trash Solutions in the Dominican Republic – Taíno Farm

tainofarm.com

Interesting that you mention this. Not too long ago I watched an installation of this apparatus on a California river and thought it was a huge step in reducing waste into our oceans...take a look below. Perhaps the DR could benefit immensely from such a device...

Rivers • The Interceptor • The Ocean Cleanup

The Ocean Cleanup aims to tackle 1000 rivers to stem 80% of the river plastic pollution flow to oceans. The Interceptor technology prevents plastic from entering the world’s oceans.

theoceancleanup.com

 

[MoJoInDR]

Maybe post what your ideas are about cleaning up the trash in the DR?

That's what this thread is for... And not just my ideas, but the ideas of others here on this forum.

But in order to do this, it is commonly understood — or should be commonly understood — that a conversation/discussion needs to be initiated, which is what I did here.

What solutions do you think would work?

As I pointed out in my first comment that opened this thread, I think that a private business initiative could be one of the solutions, and this is why I brought it up... Especially given that it seems there might be financing resources available to help such a business... Which is another point I made.

Most of the articles you have posted, many of us have already seen/read, or they have been previously posted."

Actually, some of the comments made on the threads I created say otherwise. The fact that most received high viewer interest also suggests that forum participants are still interested in the topic of the various threads.

Additionally, I've actually gone back and looked at previous threads, as far back as pre-2010, and found nothing specific to the points I brought up.

I'm not here to waste my time, or the time of viewers, keepcoming, and there have already been a few positive comments made regarding the topics of the threads I created and the content I presented in my comments.

And yet I keep getting the sense that what I am doing in the threads I create is not conducive to certain moderators on this site, which makes me feel that there is another agenda that isn't being made clear.

My threads have received many views, many likes, and many positive contributing comments... And yet your above comment that I have responded to is a pretty, not so subtle, dissing of my participation on this site, in regards to my thread creation. And is just presenting error.

I've been participating on online forums for almost thirty years... And know how to do so in a pretty straightforward, rule-following, positively contributing manner. And yet here on this forum, it seems that I'm more of a problem than a positive contributor to certain moderators.

If this is the case, just let me know and I'll just stop participating. Which is the clarity I've actually already asked for.

I'm here to learn about the DR from people who live in the DR... And I can do this by reading what others have to say, and by asking questions, which is what I do when I create a thread. But I'm certainly not here to be a thorn in your, or anyone else's side.

Hope the above is clear.

 

[Unit5]

Interesting that you mention this. Not too long ago I watched an installation of this apparatus on a California river and thought it was a huge step in reducing waste into our oceans...take a look below. Perhaps the DR could benefit immensely from such a device...

Rivers • The Interceptor • The Ocean Cleanup

The Ocean Cleanup aims to tackle 1000 rivers to stem 80% of the river plastic pollution flow to oceans. The Interceptor technology prevents plastic from entering the world’s oceans.

theoceancleanup.com

One is apparently already deployed in the Dominican Republic!

 

[MoJoInDR]

One is apparently already deployed in the Dominican Republic!

Yes, in the river that runs through Santo Domingo, I believe... But there is some far less expensive technology that available for smaller rivers.

Here's a video on it...

 

[Jan]

The Interceptor is here and parked in Rio Ozama. I have a few.pics on my computer but can't post right now. I'm in my bed in mourning for my dog who died today.

Interesting that you mention this. Not too long ago I watched an installation of this apparatus on a California river and thought it was a huge step in reducing waste into our oceans...take a look below. Perhaps the DR could benefit immensely from such a device...

Rivers • The Interceptor • The Ocean Cleanup

The Ocean Cleanup aims to tackle 1000 rivers to stem 80% of the river plastic pollution flow to oceans. The Interceptor technology prevents plastic from entering the world’s oceans.

theoceancleanup.com

 

[keepcoming]

Jan, so sorry about your dog...

 

[Jan]

Jan, so sorry about your dog...

Thanks. She was my best friend for 11 years when i adopted her. Inteliperra is 13 1/2 years old.

 

[MoJoInDR]

The Interceptor is here and parked in Rio Ozama. I have a few.pics on my computer but can't post right now. I'm in my bed in mourning for my dog who died today.

Losing a close pet is always hard... Sorry for your loss.

 

[keepcoming]

OP, when starting a thread, for example this one, instead of posting various articles, maybe give us your ideas. Others will chime in but being the OP, we would be interested in your ideas/solutions. Maybe you have ideas that others have not thought of. What I would recommend however is that you stop complaining about your threads not being treated fairly.

 

[MoJoInDR]

OP, when starting a thread, for example this one, instead of posting various articles, maybe give us your ideas. Others will chime in but being the OP, we would be interested in your ideas/solutions. Maybe you have ideas that others have not thought of. What I would recommend however is that you stop complaining about your threads not being treated fairly.

Straw man, keepcoming... No complaining on my part... Just straight-up pointing out a fact. I had a thread shut down after presenting DR-specific links... Which is what I was requested to do.

Moving forward...

Perhaps you missed this that I said in my OP...

My reason for creating the thread is two-fold...

1... As a country develops (such as has been happening in the DR), the garbage it produces increases, and the local ecosystem often suffers, often to a point that is irreversible.

2... Could there be a potential business opportunity here? Whereas already established private garbage clean-up businesses are focused on beaches, are any focused on rivers?

For me, the above pretty much states what my ideas are regarding... And regarding solutions... Solutions require an intimate understanding of what the problem is... Which is perhaps what a thread like this can bring out and then examine.

Anywho...

How about we just move forward with this thread's context and leave all the other stuff behind... It'll be far more productive.

Thanks.

 

[Manuel01]

I was looking at some videos on pollution in rivers and came across a short video (TikTok or something) on a simple cleanup technique being carried out in Guatemala.

Okay, so I know from past experience that although some are allowed to post non-DR-specific links, I've been penalized for doing so, therefore I won't... But seeing it as important to a developing country such as the DR, I did a little research and found that garbage in rivers is most certainly a big problem in the DR... And... It seems like there is a Strategic Projects and Special Programs of the Presidency (Propeep) organization that is developing an ECO5RD project that aims to do something about this problem. I'll give a link to a... Dominican Today... short article from 2021 about it.

When people think of garbage messing up the environment in the DR, the first obvious thought is in regard to the beaches, which is understandable... But rivers are very important to the well-being of the ecosystem of the interior of the island (there are a few very informative websites on this, but you'll need to do your own Google search as they are not DR-specific... Maybe I can give a starting point... Shoal Conservation).

My reason for creating the thread is two-fold...

1... As a country develops (such as has been happening in the DR), the garbage it produces increases, and the local ecosystem often suffers, often to a point that is irreversible.

2... Could there be a potential business opportunity here? Whereas already established private garbage clean-up businesses are focused on beaches, are any focused on rivers?

As I was trying to point out with my last two links in my now closed thread on Forests in the DR, there may be possible financial grants available from outside of the DR sources — and possibly even the DR government — for supporting business efforts that are focused on natural environment maintenance... Such as cleaning and maintaining the rivers in the DR.

Here's the link to the Dominican Today article...

4K tons of trash dumped in Dominican Republic’s rivers daily

<p>Santo Domingo.- The Minister in charge of Strategic Projects and Special Programs of the Presidency (Propeep), Leonel -Neney- Cabrera, revealed that 14,000 tons of solid waste are produced daily in the country, of which only 10,000 are collected. The rest goes to the rivers and streams...

dominicantoday.com

One international news agency is going to pick this story up on day and many others will follow (like always) and tourism will suffer a major blow for a long time ! H O P E F U L L Y !!!!! Only money (or in this case the lack of it) will move things.

 

[drstock]

The best solution would be for the Dominican population to be educated not to dump their trash all over the place, including in rivers, but that probably won't happen in my lifetime.

I recently made a trip deep into the countryside to a beautiful waterfall. And beautiful it was - apart from all the rubbish left everywhere by previous visitors. Very sad.

 

[CristoRey]

A little walk down memory lane.