Interesting History - like it was out of a novel

aarhus

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According to what I have read he was much worse than either.
Difficult to grade authoritarian leaders like that. Trujillo was very bad during a shorter period of time. Guevara started guerrilla war campaigns around Lat Am to spread communism and Castro stayed in power until his death and still seem to govern from his grave with his brother Raul who just recently supposedly retired.
 

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Difficult to grade authoritarian leaders like that. Trujillo was very bad during a shorter period of time. Guevara started guerrilla war campaigns around Lat Am to spread communism and Castro stayed in power until his death and still seem to govern from his grave with his brother Raul who just recently supposedly retired.
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For the sake of comparison, something like 98% of Dominicans never had any family member tortured or killed by the regimen. Plus, most that were tended to be communist.

A good way to visualize it, today around 10% of the Dominican population is considered white, which is a considerable greater percentage than the percentage of victims during the 31 year span of Trujillo. Now travel throught the DR and see what 10% means by simply looking around. The greatest error committed during the Trujillo regime was torturing/killing members of some prominent Dominican families. The Dominican upper class eliminated him because of that. If it wasn't for that, most likely Trujillo would had died from old age as dictator of the country.

Look at the things the killers of Trujillo had. Cars, guns (only close friends of Trujillo were allowed to have guns, because back then not even the police had guns by orders of Trujillo), houses that were nicer and more comfortable than most, etc. Once the upper class got rid of Trujillo, the same group took control of the DR and to this day exist things such as the law that prohibits anything positive can be said of Trujillo without saying something negative, but you can say anything negative alone and that's fine. There is still a law that prohibits Trujillo's remains to be buried anywhere in the DR, as if dust and bones are able to do anything anymore (I guess some people are more Dominicans than others, but there are other Dominican dictators such as Lilís and they are all buried in the DR.) There is freedom of speech, but Angelita Trujillo's book "Trujillo, mi padre en mis memorias" was prohibited after it became the number one seller in Dominican bookstores and it still is prohibited. If the book is found in any passenger in Dominican airports, it will be confiscated. It's on sale in countries like the USA, you know freedom of speech and all of that.

Certainly, Trujillo's regime have positive and negative things. There is nothing wrong remembering the negative aspects, but not being able to mention the positives without mentioning the negative unless you want to be punished, prohibiting books on Trujillo when you don't like what it says even though there are many books that are anti-Trujillo are things I will never agree with and will continue to denounce it as long as they exist.

Whomever feels bothered by that, go right ahead and feel as bothered as you want.
 
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"For the sake of comparison, something like 98% of Dominicans never had any family member tortured or killed by the regimen. Plus, most that were tended to be communist."
I guess that's ok then. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: Nothing really to do with the point of your post, I just found that comment funny.
 
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So 2% of Dominicans had a family member tortured or killed by the regimen. That seems pretty unacceptable for all those families to me.

And Trujillo didn't even make the top twelve of murderous dictators. A complete amateur!
 

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I have never in 15 years met a Dominican here who thinks Trujillo was a good president. He was a dictator. What is good about that ?
 

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I have never in 15 years met a Dominican here who thinks Trujillo was a good president. He was a dictator. What is good about that ?
You haven't been here long enough.

Go on instagram, follow @imagenesdenuestrahistoria and read some of the comments.
You may be suprised.
 
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aarhus

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You haven't been here long enough.

Go on instagram, follow @imagenesdenuestrahistoria and read some of the comments.
You may be suprised.
Yes I have been here long enough. Since 2006. Know a ton of Dominicans. Met a ton more. They don’t want a Trujillo type regime ever again. Maybe you can find a small fringe group. Maybe Trujillo left some infrastructure as one only positive.
 

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You haven't been here long enough.

Go on instagram, follow @imagenesdenuestrahistoria and read some of the comments.
You may be suprised.
I agree. I wish a had a dollar for every time I’ve heard that something would never have happened under Trujillo. Or “we need another Trujillo “ to fix this country. A lot of older people actually have fond memories of DR life those years. Same people also talk in hushed tones about the SIM in their black VW beetles though.
 

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Yes I have been here long enough. Since 2006. Know a ton of Dominicans. Met a ton more. They don’t want a Trujillo type regime ever again. Maybe you can find a small fringe group. Maybe Trujillo left some infrastructure as one only positive.
I've got ya beat by about 36 years, my friend. Folks like AE and I have been as immersed in the culture as long as you can get.

I'd say they're bigger than a fringe group though. There's still a lot of them out there who think we need another iron fist.

I'm not sure I agree with them, but it's interesting to hear their opinions.

One thing for sure, those days are gone, good or bad.
 

aarhus

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I've got ya beat by about 36 years, my friend. Folks like AE and I have been as immersed in the culture as long as you can get.

I'd say they're bigger than a fringe group though. There's still a lot of them out there who think we need another iron fist.

I'm not sure I agree with them, but it's interesting to hear their opinions.

One thing for sure, those days are gone, good or bad.
Oh so 15 years is not enough to know the country and its people and culture now ?
 

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Nope, not at all. But I've lived in every corner of this country and I'd bet I know a lot more folks than you do.

Please, no offense intended.
 

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No worries. I just don’t understand being here longer and knowing more people means knowing better. I am sure there are people who have been here 5-10 years could know better than me with 15. I admit to occasionally having had my head in the sand. During several years actually lol
 
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I know a lot of people who say they've been here 20, 30 ,yrs or more when in actuality they've been vacationing here for 20 to 30 yrs. Their is a big difference.