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Love, Lust or Lie
For me, its' been a combination of love, lust and stupidity.
For them, its' been all about seeking an opportunity while putting forth the least amount of effort.
But I have learned from all that. No one can walk you through life. Even intelligent people act foolishly at times, and now thanks to my experiences I know better.
For them, its' been all about seeking an opportunity while putting forth the least amount of effort.
But I have learned from all that. No one can walk you through life. Even intelligent people act foolishly at times, and now thanks to my experiences I know better.
For me,
Love - thought so twice, heart broken both times and as a result have formed an opinion (my opinion) that Dominicans are incapable of love on the level that I know it, if at all!
Lust - oh yes. Two consenting adults and all that. I have now changed my perspective and thinking to that similar to a Dominican, take each day as it comes, dont expect too much and if it feels good, do it!
Lies - not on my part but never ceased to be amazed at the lies I have been told that I am expected to believe, and they will still continue to do so even when presented with overwhelming evidence that it IS a lie.
Love - thought so twice, heart broken both times and as a result have formed an opinion (my opinion) that Dominicans are incapable of love on the level that I know it, if at all!
Lust - oh yes. Two consenting adults and all that. I have now changed my perspective and thinking to that similar to a Dominican, take each day as it comes, dont expect too much and if it feels good, do it!
Lies - not on my part but never ceased to be amazed at the lies I have been told that I am expected to believe, and they will still continue to do so even when presented with overwhelming evidence that it IS a lie.
Sorry - I should have phrased it in such a way as to mean that the Dominicans that I have crossed paths with were incapable of "love" in the sense that I know it, but then that would perhaps suggest that the problem lies with me? I don't believe it does.
I didn't mean to generalise for the whole of the species.
Rio
I didn't mean to generalise for the whole of the species.
Rio
Not a problem. I just need to say it once in a while.
You're more than likely a very good and generous person and some people look for those qualities to take advantage of until we learn that not everyone works on the same ideals. It's easier to spot in our own country but it all sounds so much better with an accent. :cheeky:
as a tourist, i never come to the DR looking for love so i guess i'm a Lust man looking for the Lust women. additionally, the lies i may hear don't really matter because my feelings are back in the US in the lockbox. :laugh:
most women i meet in the DR seem to pick up on that fact and hence our involvement is predicated on the number of days i am there on vacation. and when i leave there is no mention of when i am returning.
i'm happy, they're happy....everybody's happy !! :laugh:
most women i meet in the DR seem to pick up on that fact and hence our involvement is predicated on the number of days i am there on vacation. and when i leave there is no mention of when i am returning.
i'm happy, they're happy....everybody's happy !! :laugh:
From my perspective LOVE is involved in every relationship.......but it may not be you their in love with, it may be your money.
As with most things, this too is a matter of definition. Different people define words and phrases differently. To some love is exclusive, to others love is all inclusive, and to others still there is no such thing as abstract love. While lust has an apparent universal definition, perhaps there are degrees of passion that are separated by nuance, situation, and circumstance.
But the crux of the question is the definition of lies. Something that might not be true at one point in time, might well be true at another. Conversely, what is true in one instance might be completely false in another.
I know it sounds as though I am belaboring what should be a simple question, but humans being as complex and contradictory as they are, the answer requires more than a one word answer. Man's duality, and the levels and depth of defining and interpretating cross-lingual and cross-cultural words and phrases make an easy answer impossible.
So, I guess what I am suggesting is, there will always be miscommunication between the sexes, and certainly between the sexes based in two diverse cultures. Such is the nature of love, lust and lies. And, I think, those are the elements that make the relationships that evolve in these circumstances so interesting and gratifying.
Viva la difference!
But the crux of the question is the definition of lies. Something that might not be true at one point in time, might well be true at another. Conversely, what is true in one instance might be completely false in another.
I know it sounds as though I am belaboring what should be a simple question, but humans being as complex and contradictory as they are, the answer requires more than a one word answer. Man's duality, and the levels and depth of defining and interpretating cross-lingual and cross-cultural words and phrases make an easy answer impossible.
So, I guess what I am suggesting is, there will always be miscommunication between the sexes, and certainly between the sexes based in two diverse cultures. Such is the nature of love, lust and lies. And, I think, those are the elements that make the relationships that evolve in these circumstances so interesting and gratifying.
Viva la difference!
A Whisper in agreement!
I am whispering this as it is perhaps more acceptable for men to express themselves on this issue, but tentatively and gingerly I am putting my hand up in agreement with you Kyle, even though I am female.
I no longer have any expectations whatsoever in a liason/relationship and have discovered again the fun and the spirit of what I love about the DR. I go home after my trips promising only to call one person - my female best friend - knowing that when I return I can always pick up where I left off or not bother. Hence, love and lies no longer enter the equation, just lust now and again!
I am whispering this as it is perhaps more acceptable for men to express themselves on this issue, but tentatively and gingerly I am putting my hand up in agreement with you Kyle, even though I am female.
I no longer have any expectations whatsoever in a liason/relationship and have discovered again the fun and the spirit of what I love about the DR. I go home after my trips promising only to call one person - my female best friend - knowing that when I return I can always pick up where I left off or not bother. Hence, love and lies no longer enter the equation, just lust now and again!
Love ...for sure! fortunately it's with mother nature...the weather, the ocean, the sand the palms!! yeah I'd have to say that's true love!!
Lust...hell yeah!! the men and women from the Dominican Republic are sexy...they dance, whisper Spanish sweet nothings,even if you don't have a clue what they say,who cares!! they just seem to be more romantic and passionate.
They even caress differently, although I think the sex is just so so!! am I allowed to say that?:ermm:
Lies... (As per why men Lie) Is it a coincidence that men hold the majority of jobs that involve lying? Politics, government agencies, courtroom lawyers, plastic surgeons, psychiatrists -- who calls the shots?
Not that all men lie, of course not. But from experience (and 99% of women will back me up on this), the only men who don't lie are those devoted to their religion, gay, or have had their tongue removed.
Now let's turn the tables. Men lie often, but most times these are harmless lies that are said to protect their ego more than anything. Women have ulterior motives.
Lust...hell yeah!! the men and women from the Dominican Republic are sexy...they dance, whisper Spanish sweet nothings,even if you don't have a clue what they say,who cares!! they just seem to be more romantic and passionate.
They even caress differently, although I think the sex is just so so!! am I allowed to say that?:ermm:
Lies... (As per why men Lie) Is it a coincidence that men hold the majority of jobs that involve lying? Politics, government agencies, courtroom lawyers, plastic surgeons, psychiatrists -- who calls the shots?
Not that all men lie, of course not. But from experience (and 99% of women will back me up on this), the only men who don't lie are those devoted to their religion, gay, or have had their tongue removed.
Now let's turn the tables. Men lie often, but most times these are harmless lies that are said to protect their ego more than anything. Women have ulterior motives.
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A matter of definition
Can you have a loving relationship in the DR? Yes but it is in the moment or while you are there. Will it last when you leave? No but you can enjoy during your trip.
Will you be lied to? Probably but not with malice.
Is lust available? Hell yes!!!
Can you have a loving relationship in the DR? Yes but it is in the moment or while you are there. Will it last when you leave? No but you can enjoy during your trip.
Will you be lied to? Probably but not with malice.
Is lust available? Hell yes!!!
thats a really good question. i dont have any experience in this area (so excuse me if you feel im not contributing) but after reading many of the posts in this category, it seems almost impossible to find something "real" in the DR. how do you know if someone is truly genuine in what they say or feel for you? ive heard that before you go to the DR you should leave your heart at home but is it always possible to do that?
You don't have to leave your heart at home, just don't forget to pack your brain as well. A little balance between the two will serve you well. Be prepared for all the possibilities for love, lust, and lies, don't over spend your budget, protect yourself, and realise all things change.
J
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when you start getting chatted up by women your age or older it may very well be the real thing- i suppose people dont come here looking for a 60 year old dominican lady though
errr love lust and lies depend on who what where and how....i lust after cadburys cream eggs
errr love lust and lies depend on who what where and how....i lust after cadburys cream eggs
John We have something BIG in common...comes in lovely foil wrap in the shape of an egg!
I have to agree with you about age, i know people always say...age doesnt matter but...to me 5-15 years really is no big deal but gaps like 15-40+years apart come on...thats a little odd you lie to yourself if you believe it to be true.
I have to admit that my original intention traveling the DR was lust. A friend of mine showed me some photos and i knew i just had to go there.
Now it is about love. On my fifth trip there i was traveling with a friend of mine. We were having a terrible time traveling together and eventually went our own ways (we still do not speak to eachother...his decision). THat is when I really started hanging out with someone I had known for a couple of years but never really got to know. He SAVED my trip and we had a great time.
Since then I spend nearly all my time with him when i am there (when he is not working). Met the family and kids (i know...that is not rare).
As i said in another thread...it is not "traditional" love....but rather a love of our friendship. We just really are so happy when we are together....cooking (he's an awesome cook...pulpo creole, pescado en leche de coco con arroz y maize, pescado frito...on and on), hanging out in the back yard...and just talking the night away sipping on presidentes and brugal. (ok...sometimes a little bit more than that ;-)
I trust him with my life...and have...he sat by my side when i was REALLY sick and brought me soup and fruit to make sure i would eat. He's also taken me to some places in the campo that i doubt many gringos have been to.
He also calls me a few times a week (on his peso mind you) just to say hello...see how my job search is going and to hear my voice.
Ok..i will admit that i have caught him in a couple of lies. but thats what MEN do...not just Domincan men. Just little white lies tho...nothing major.
Ok...with all that said...yes...i think we got love. Some of the people I have met here on DR1 have met my friend. Everyone has been impressed the quality of this man.
Yes...in a world where "carpenters are resurected"...anything is possible....even love in the DR.
Now it is about love. On my fifth trip there i was traveling with a friend of mine. We were having a terrible time traveling together and eventually went our own ways (we still do not speak to eachother...his decision). THat is when I really started hanging out with someone I had known for a couple of years but never really got to know. He SAVED my trip and we had a great time.
Since then I spend nearly all my time with him when i am there (when he is not working). Met the family and kids (i know...that is not rare).
As i said in another thread...it is not "traditional" love....but rather a love of our friendship. We just really are so happy when we are together....cooking (he's an awesome cook...pulpo creole, pescado en leche de coco con arroz y maize, pescado frito...on and on), hanging out in the back yard...and just talking the night away sipping on presidentes and brugal. (ok...sometimes a little bit more than that ;-)
I trust him with my life...and have...he sat by my side when i was REALLY sick and brought me soup and fruit to make sure i would eat. He's also taken me to some places in the campo that i doubt many gringos have been to.
He also calls me a few times a week (on his peso mind you) just to say hello...see how my job search is going and to hear my voice.
Ok..i will admit that i have caught him in a couple of lies. but thats what MEN do...not just Domincan men. Just little white lies tho...nothing major.
Ok...with all that said...yes...i think we got love. Some of the people I have met here on DR1 have met my friend. Everyone has been impressed the quality of this man.
Yes...in a world where "carpenters are resurected"...anything is possible....even love in the DR.