med school

[jeffa]

Med school in DR--as American with recent Perm Residency, does anyone know if I may apply to DR Med School and ,if so:
a) what tuition may be
b) what hoops to go thru to then qualify in US as MD after completing DR Med School
ANY help on this is MUCH appreciated!!! Best, Jeff A

 

[Hillbilly]

It all depends if you are a serious student or not. If not, don't even think of it.
PUCMM, Santiago Campus, has highest rating with the Boards
Unphu and Intec in Santo Domingo are pretty good. All are demanding and competitive.
Costs are absurdly low compared to any school inthe US. Main question is can you cut it? Some of these schools are certified for Federal Loans.
If you finish here you have to pass the Boards in the States to get a Residency. You have to be a US Resident or US Citizen to get a Residency there.

HB

 

[jeffa]

Hillbilly-great info. No response to e-mail to Med School in Santiago--so here is question: anyone know tuition cost for Med School in DR? Also, my son is US citizen (I am also with Perm Res in DR)--will he get lower tuition with Perm Res or DR citizenship? I know these questions are detailed--but am grateful for any help!!! Thanks, Jeff A

 

[Macoris]

TUITION

For your information, the tuition fees for foreiger or non-dominican are the same even if you are have a dominican residency. However, if your are Dominican Citizen then the tuition is much lower, like R$ 15,000 a semester compare to USD$ 3,000 a semester. This is why many foreign medical students get married to Dominican in order to obtain DR Citizenship without waiting period and to pay only DOMINICAN CITIZEN'S fees. I hope that I am answering your question. Goodluck.

 

[jeffa]

Can't thank you enough for your reply. Did you or someone close to you attend med school in DR? Do you feel any one med school would stand out as a best choice?

 

[Hillbilly]

There is no doubt that the program at PUCMM and at UNPHU, one vry modern and the other very traditional are the finest. Our pass rate at PUCMM is over 90% ..
Again, how sincere is the student? If not gung ho forget it.
Tuition 350 USD$ a credit. About 25-30 credits per semester. Housing, books, etc are another 700$USD per month. Chicken feed when compared to the $35,000 a year in the States...

Call PUCMM at 809 580 1962 ask for admissions.

HB

 

[Jim Hinsch]

... Tuition 350 USD$ a credit. About 25-30 credits per semester...Chicken feed when compared to ... the States...HB

Is this in error?

Cost of attending various colleges (not medical school) in the USA when a resident of that state, including the cost of tuition in the "cost per credit":

University of Michigan: US$251.50 - http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/mscis/FAQS.html

Purdue: US$300 - http://www.bursar.iupui.edu/fees200203ApprovedFees/SampleAssessment.htm

Ohio State University: $258 - http://www.collegeview.com/college/collegesearch/keyfacts/financial_info.jsp?scid=2800128

 

[Hillbilly]

Yo! Jim! We are talking about MED SCHOOL! Hello??

And those are Resident tuition fees for State residents that qualify. Not everyone can get in either.

HB

 

[Jim Hinsch]

Yo! Jim! We are talking about MED SCHOOL! Hello??HB

Why Hello?? Didn't you see that I put "not medical school" in my message to show my awareness you were talking about med school?

I included only resident costs, because it is prudent to attend a university in the state where one resides.

So, as with the original question, is that cost you posted in US Dollars for PUCMM correct?

If so, that seems like a lot more than chicken feed, even compared to the lowest cost med schools in the USA. You are welcome to show what the lowest cost med schools in the USA charge by comparison so show that it is indeed chicken feed.

It's been a long time since I checked on the cost of education, but I'm of the opinion that US$50,000+ is not chicken feed in any context for a degree of any kind.

 

[Lee-Lee]

jim...... i'm getting confused.
are you not aware of the fact the michigan purdue and ohio costs you've posted are for undergrad costs? as you quoted... it is NOT MED SCHOOL... it's much cheaper than med. from what i understand hillbily is quoting med not undergrad prices.

 

[Jim Hinsch]

Yes, I'm aware. I was amazed to see that med school in the DR costs more than undergrad at top universities in the USA.

 

[Lee-Lee]

why should you be amazed at that fact? they teach medicine!!! they train doctors... it's a given that teaching med and training health parctitionaers should cost more than any undergrad prog..whether it be med school in the dominican or not.. .med is expensive to teach and learn. i understand that the dominican med system of teaching is not LOW... therefore, it should not be cheap at all. they have pretty kick ass medical standards.

anyone know the stats for dental schools?
i'm paying 22 G's per year in canada and i'm crying over that : (

 

[Hillbilly]

I wanted to be sure, Jim, that is all. Actually we're comparing apples and pears.

Grad school in the states are about 350$US and up a credit hour.. But Med Schools are way, way up and terribly exclusive. That is why those fly-by-night operations in Granada and here were opened up. You paid your money and you got your degree.

My university invested several man-years in planning and creating our medical program. It is based on an innovative modular system, extremely hands on, and it is geared towards the DR, not any first world country. There is extremely limited recruitment in the hispanic population of the US or Puerto Rico.

Tuition charges for Dominican citizens are RD$350 a credit. For non-Dominicans it is US$350 or about $US8000 per semester. The university qualifies for the Federal Grant Program for Medical Studies , so the $US20,000 per year in tuition is pretty well covered by loans. Georgetown, for example is well into the $40s by now. Why compare our program with Georgetown? Because we have a better pass-rate on the Boards than Georgetown.

Please remember, we do not need to devote Dominican generated resources to produce MDs for deveolped nations. We need good doctors here first. If someone wants to come here and study medicine, they pay. In fact they pay a lot more than five Dominican students for the same class, so what.? Oh yes, Haitians pay Dominican tuition rates...We like to have some foreign students in the program, since many of them are excellent students and highly motivated. They are generally older than the Dominican students and behave with level headedness about themselves. Some have been outstanding in their respective communities. Jos? Greer in Miami and a couple in Puerto Rico have obtained Outstanding Citizen Awards...

One final thing, I would always place myself in their hands.

HB

PS> Lee-Lee; Our Dental School is about the same as the Med School, With similiar fees. I can get details if needed. Very hands-on and community oriented...We have a lot of Spaniards and Puerto Ricans in the program...

 

[Jim Hinsch]

That's surprising, considering doctors in the DR earn so much less than their 1st world counterparts. I suppose they don't have they high malpractice rates to pay either though.

 

[Hillbilly]

Like most things, quality will out. And you are certainly right on the mal-practice...keeps costs down. So does the income tax set up. They don't pay a lot of thet either.

Here, the good MDs graduate, do a year's internship in public health hospitals all around the country. Then the most fortunate ones will go into Residencies, again all over the world, and the less wealthy or those with lesser grades, will go into the Public Health Ministry's Residency Programs. Here in Santiago we hat the University Regional Hospital, and it has many Residencies, from surgery to transplant, and , for the fortunate, Argentina Brazil, Mexico and Spain are favored because of the language. Those with US Residence will certainly try for a Residency in the States. Stateside MDs have to take the Boards, like any other med school grad, and compete on mostly that basis. Lots of Dominicans have "married" US citizens in order to get residency and therefore qualify for these programs-both medical and dental.

Once the Residency is over, the MD establishes his office in a reputable clinic (costing easily over $1 million pesos for an office space in a decent clinic, besides any equipment he may or may not need, it is quite an investment) while at the same time offering his services on the staff of the local hospital, where the salary is really dismal. He/She now has a "specialty" and is beyond the General Practicioner status. At this time, they might be as young as 27 or 28 years old...

HB

 

[m65swede]

Hillbilly?

A little off topic, but I am curious. Is there a college in the DR that teaches Veterinary Medicine? Their schooling is actually quite similar to that of physicians.


As you may recall, my daughter is a Vet (University of Illinois, '97) and I usta know a top notch Vet in the DR. So I am naturally interested.

Swede

 

[Tony C]

There are a few schools that Teach Vet med. UNPHU is one of them. I graduated from their VET school in 1987. Now if I could only remember what I did with that darn diploma!

Tony C.

 

[Hillbilly]

Unphu and UASD are the major schools. I have heard that Utesa has one but I don't know anything about it. Both UASD and Unphu are well known for their schools...
Some Animal Husbandry is taught at ISA, but that is not Vet. Med.

HB

 

[m65swede]

Hillbilly and Tony C: I am sorta surprised there are that many vet schools in the DR; there are only about 30 colleges and universities in the entire US that offer a Vet Med curriculum.

Swede

 

[Tony C]

Back in the 80's you couldn't sneeze without knocking over and American studying Vet med in the DR. The AVMA put an end to all that in the late 80's buy putting ridiculous restrictions on them to be able to practice in the US.