New proposal for recidivism in Migration Law

[Dolores]

The latest government push to repatriate tens of thousands of undocumented migrants also faces the reality of recidivism of those who have been deported. This reality is being addressed by a proposed amendment to Migration Law 285-04 currently under review and modification in Congress.

The Senate has a proposal that seeks to punish a person who has been deported and returns to the Dominican Republic with fines and possible imprisonment of up to 90 days. The fines and possible imprisonment are on an escalating scale, going from two to five minimum wages and 15 to 30 days in jail for first offenders, to 10 to 20 minimum salaries in fines and up to 90 days in jail or both to third-time offenders.

The legislative proposal also stipulates that if the returnee has been convicted of a crime that originated the deportation in the first place, then the...

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[CristoRey]

This is long overdue.

 

[NanSanPedro]

Good luck on the fines.

 

[drstock]

I don't see how this will work. If they are "undocumented" how will they identify them?

 

[windeguy]

I don't see how this will work. If they are "undocumented" how will they identify them?

Taking their fingerprints and keeping them in a data base would do it.

 

[DrNoob]

I don't see how this will work. If they are "undocumented" how will they identify them?

Can take biometric data like finger prints and retina scans but not sure how well that will go with human rights/privacy and I am not sure how well data security works in the DR

 

[windeguy]

Can take biometric data like finger prints and retina scans but not sure how well that will go with human rights/privacy and I am not sure how well data security works in the DR

What rights would be violated in such a situation? The DR goverment will do as it pleases to control illegal immigration.

Taking fingerprints and facial recognition are done almost everytime I cross a border. There is no descrimination involved in that.

 

[DrNoob]

What rights would be violated in such a situation? The DR goverment will do as it pleases to control illegal immigration.

Taking fingerprints and facial recognition are done almost everytime I cross a border. There is no descrimination involved in that.

I agree but there will always be someone around to protest on those lines. If you ask me, once a person crosses a border illegally, if the law of the land says they must give biometric identification data and then get deported, then they must comply. They shouldn't cross over if they don't agree with this.

What I don't understand is the idea of detaining them for 90 days and provide them free boarding and lodging at the cost of not having space in the prison for Dominican prisoners.

 

[NanSanPedro]

I agree but there will always be someone around to protest on those lines. If you ask me, once a person crosses a border illegally, if the law of the land says they must give biometric identification data and then get deported, then they must comply. They shouldn't cross over if they don't agree with this.

What I don't understand is the idea of detaining them for 90 days and provide them free boarding and lodging at the cost of not having space in the prison for Dominican prisoners.

No one wants their freedom taken from them. It's basic human nature.

 

[windeguy]

I agree but there will always be someone around to protest on those lines. If you ask me, once a person crosses a border illegally, if the law of the land says they must give biometric identification data and then get deported, then they must comply. They shouldn't cross over if they don't agree with this.

Then those protesting will just have to get over it. There is nothing anyone will be able to do about it except to whine.

What I don't understand is the idea of detaining them for 90 days and provide them free boarding and lodging at the cost of not having space in the prison for Dominican prisoners.

I agree. That makes no sense.

 

[DrNoob]

No one wants their freedom taken from them. It's basic human nature.

My question was on the proposal: why detain them for x days which costs more resources and can end up with maltreatment/abuse issues, just give them a good meal and send back over the border as quickly as possible. That way there is no detainment and Dominican prisons can be used for Dominican prisoners (less crowding, better for them too)

From what I understand that people will keep coming back and the border is quite porous but DR is not a rich country to be able to provide Western levels of aid to Haiti. All around s**tshow

 

[windeguy]

DrNoob: For some things there really are no answers. Haiti is one of those things.

Just trying different things and finding the best that can be done.

 

[NanSanPedro]

My question was on the proposal: why detain them for x days which costs more resources and can end up with maltreatment/abuse issues, just give them a good meal and send back over the border as quickly as possible. That way there is no detainment and Dominican prisons can be used for Dominican prisoners (less crowding, better for them too)

From what I understand that people will keep coming back and the border is quite porous but DR is not a rich country to be able to provide Western levels of aid to Haiti. All around s**tshow

My point is that while Haiti sucks, jail sucks more. It's meant to be a deterrent. It's one of those risk/reward things.

 

[AlterEgo]

My point is that while Haiti sucks, jail sucks more. It's meant to be a deterrent. It's one of those risk/reward things.

Exactly as I see it.

 

[lifeisgreat]

they better build bigger jails…