New Santo Domingo Cruise Port in front of Hotel Jaragua

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They can't even issue Cedulas and this nonsense comes out................"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see" in the DR and you will be better off............
 

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There was another thread about a cruise port in Santo Domingo. I am not sure about this; I just do not see Santo Domingo as a good port stop. Other than the ZC and a couple of other locations, there is not much in the immediate area for cruisers IMO. Getting around Santo Domingo we all know is a pain with all the traffic. Many people on cruises buy day passes to hotels/resorts to use the pool and the beach. The hotels along the Malecon really do not have pools that would accommodate the hotels guests and those coming from cruise ships. The pool at the Jaragua is probably one of the larger ones on the Malecon. And for a beach, there is nothing in the immediate area, or nothing that would appeal to cruisers. They would need to go outside of Santo Domingo for that. I just don't see it.
 
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They can't even issue Cedulas and this nonsense comes out................"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see" in the DR and you will be better off............
I wish you were right in this Case, but I'm afraid that they are serious.
All this removing of Parking Space in the Zona Colonial and other activities makes perfect sense now.
Can you imagine 3,000 People de boarding and invading the Colonial City at once. ???
What a Nightmare !!!
 

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I wonder who will take on the criminal organizations of trucks and taxi vans to let the traffic flow normally on the Malecon. In addition, also introduce a mandatory car inspection and a proper and serious driving test.....And then I woke up... what a bad dream ;)
 

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We did discuss this in another thread. I think key to this will be stopping the trucks coming along the Malecon. I just can't see how it could possibly work unless traffic on the Malecon was severely reduced, and certainly no trucks. There is already a law that says trucks can't use the Malecon, and Collado has been wanting to do this for years, so I imagine this will now be the clincher. The interesting thing is that if you walk from Jaragua to the Colonial Zone, you come in at the Ciudad Nueva / Independence Square / Pacos end of the Conde which is the most run-down end. And, indeed, the end of the Conde that they have done least to regenerate, no wires buried, no zhooshed up streets, a very basic amount of work. If this does regenerate that part of the Conde then happy days.

I also suspect that the mess of the Torre Veiramar 3 and the other tower directly opposite Guibia will now have to be sorted out. Real estate will go up in value as a result of the cruise port.

Of course the more radical solution, of building a breakwater and then allowing a beach to form would be the best one for tourism, this has been discussed many times - the traffic would then be diverted along the breakwater / bridge to join Avenida España and Santo Domingo would finally get a beach. Cruise companies do have deep pockets and Santo Domingo is such an obvious stop as it's only a day out from Fort Lauderdale. I just hope and pray this happens.
 

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I wish you were right in this Case, but I'm afraid that they are serious.
All this removing of Parking Space in the Zona Colonial and other activities makes perfect sense now.
Can you imagine 3,000 People de boarding and invading the Colonial City at once. ???
What a Nightmare !!!
The zona colonial has become an unpleasant chore. Parking, congestion and simply walking is too dangerous. The sidewalks are difficult to negotiate.
 

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This supposed project lacks common and logistical sense. It smells! Placing a cruise ship dock at the Malecon in front of the Jaragua would require space, space that does not exist. Space needed for parking, passenger pickup-drop offs, passenger facilities, shipside services, bonded warehouse, & customs-immigration facilities. Space would have to be constructed by extending the shoreline outward. The location face is exposed to the sea. The jetty at the Sans Souci naval base would have to be doubled in length at minimum to provide seaward protection for the proposed dock. A new jetty extending seaward may be needed west of the proposed dock maybe at or near Adrians. The city and investors fail to mention a pedestrian bridge may be needed over Av George Washington at the dock location. This project is a $400 million enterprise. Is it overpriced?

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Agree about the space, where is it? There is not much space between the hotels (Jaragua) on one side and the water on the other side. My niece went on a cruise that stopped in Puerto Plata. By the time they got off the ship they had about 4.5 to 5 hrs. before needing to be back on the ship. I do not see the attraction having Santo Domingo as a cruise port stop. Just have to wait and see what happens.
 
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I'm just imagining 3000 tourists all crossing Av George Washington and not at least one getting hit. First time that happens and is plastered across the internet, this port of call ends.
 

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I am thinking that if this does happen, Av George Washington would probably be closed off to local traffic in that area.
 

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I am thinking that if this does happen, Av George Washington would probably be closed off to local traffic in that area.
A close off will not happen. The ferry terminal at the river entrance requires vehicle access. The city needs an open road relief for vehicle passage in and out of it.

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Agree about the space, where is it? There is not much space between the hotels (Jaragua) on one side and the water on the other side. My niece went on a cruise that stopped in Puerto Plata. By the time they got off the ship they had about 4.5 to 5 hrs. before needing to be back on the ship. I do not see the attraction having Santo Domingo as a cruise port stop. Just have to wait and see what happens.
The cruise attraction is the Colonial Zone. Money to be made by tour enterprises and merchants clamoring for victims to fill their registers. The cruise company will get their commission for hooking up its passenger shore activities. It's all about the $money$ to be made.

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They can't even issue Cedulas and this nonsense comes out................"Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see" in the DR and you will be better off............
What do cedulas have to do with private investors and a new cruise port?

The DR is HUGE on cruise ports and AI resorts. Revenue...
 

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This supposed project lacks common and logistical sense. It smells! Placing a cruise ship dock at the Malecon in front of the Jaragua would require space, space that does not exist. Space needed for parking, passenger pickup-drop offs, passenger facilities, shipside services, bonded warehouse, & customs-immigration facilities. Space would have to be constructed by extending the shoreline outward. The location face is exposed to the sea. The jetty at the Sans Souci naval base would have to be doubled in length at minimum to provide seaward protection for the proposed dock. A new jetty extending seaward may be needed west of the proposed dock maybe at or near Adrians. The city and investors fail to mention a pedestrian bridge may be needed over Av George Washington at the dock location. This project is a $400 million enterprise. Is it overpriced?

Regards,

PJT
The plan is to build all this into the sea. Happens all over the world. If they take down the two abounded mega Structures closed by they would have enough rubble to fill up half of it all ready.
 

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The zona colonial has become an unpleasant chore. Parking, congestion and simply walking is too dangerous. The sidewalks are difficult to negotiate.

Dangerous? I don't think the Colonial Zone is dangerous. I can think of plenty of other words to describe it, I think it is more run-down and sad looking than ever before, but dangerous isn't a word I would use.
 
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The cruise attraction is the Colonial Zone. Money to be made by tour enterprises and merchants clamoring for victims to fill their registers. The cruise company will get their commission for hooking up its passenger shore activities. It's all about the $money$ to be made.

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PJT
I don't see it, I do not think the ZC is going to be that big of an attraction for cruisers. But for the short time passengers would be in port it would work as a "tour" option. If you read reviews by cruisers, they can be pretty tough on attractions/tours at various ports. I think "tours" to the ZC would wear thin after a bit unless they did some major upgrades to the area. There is just not enough in Santo Domingo to interest cruisers IMO. Just getting around in Santo Domingo is difficult most of the time with traffic.