Punta Cana Spring Break

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Smoak

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Is this a good place for Spring Break for college kids? We were told about it by our travel agent, who said that more travel agents were trying to get college kids away from Jamaica. We are seriously considering it and would be staying at the Occidental Flamenco Bavaro. Is anyone else going for Spring Break, or does anyone know of anyone who has been before? Any information would be greatly appreciated. We would be there from March 17-24th.

I realize that its more European, than American, but as long as there are females there we really don't care what language they speak.

Thanks in advance for the help
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Punta Cana is for couples

Boca Chica on the south coast or Sosua on the north coast for singles and night life. Punta Cana would make for a terribly boring spring break.
 
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John

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Not True!

It seems that you havent been in PC for loooong time. there are at least 10 huge discos where most of the crowd are singles or youngs couples.
how can you recommend Boca chica to college students? that place is just for cheap tourists looking for sex with kids.
Tiger, dont pay attention to JH. The disco at flamenco is a blast. lots of singles womens from everywhere.
Barcel? bavaro beach and Iberostar are also better choices for young students because drinks at their clubs are included in the price.
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Nope. BC is better than Punta Cana for singles *PIC*

The discos are not new. The vast majority of people in the discos in the Punta Cana area are couples that are staying at the all-inclusives. Not only that, about 98% of the guests in Punta Cana stay at an all-inclusive resort, such that people not staying at the resort cannot enter. And most of those people in the individual resorts will never leave them, because there is very little to do outside of the resorts. That makes for very little mingling between guests of the various hotel complexes in Punta Cana, which translates to a lousy spring break destination for men seeking chicas.

Boca Chica on the other hand is perfect. Plenty of night life, plenty of chicas (over 18).

Sex with kids (under 18) is illegal in the Dominican Republic. If you know of anything like that going on, in Boca Chica or elsewhere, I suggest you report it to the police. It would be very difficult to do such a thing in Boca Chica anyway because none of the bars, discos, or hotels will permit guests under 18 and they must have an ID to prove it.

See www.BocaChicaBeach.net for more info or click on the link below.
 
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John

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Jim Hinsh you must been in europe last weeks.

I dont know if you hear that the new minister od tourism closed many hotels, bars and clubs because they were involved into child prostitution.
did you hear that they were advertizing boca chica as the paradise for gays and putas.
Sorry, but BC is not any more what you want it to be. wake up.
 
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ricktoronto

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Terrible choice for Spring Break

Unless you are travelling as couples and maybe with kids. It isn't really even a town just a pile of AI's resorts which may be your bag ( lots of drinks for free etc.) but a fancy prison, IMHO. I agfree with Jim Hinsch on this one. Even the capital if you have OK Spanish woul dbe better or as an alternative go to Puerto Plata.
 
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Karl Weber

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Re: Terrible choice for Spring Break

i have heard from some people that Boca Chica has been like a ghost town lately...can someone please tell me if this is true or not....i read that hotel's rented hardly any rooms in the last couple months but that it is starting to pick back up...any info would help...
 
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Doug

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John don't know

John has no idea what he is talking about, I've met plenty of kids whom have went to Boca Chica for holidays and had a fantastic time.....and Jim is right Punta Cana would be my last choice......south and north coast being first!!!!!!
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Terrible choice for Spring Break

I was just there a couple weeks ago. It wasn't crowded but it wasn't empty either. Setp 1 - Dec 20 is the slowest season of the year. Things were rather normal for this time of year. Dec 21 thorugh about April 15 is the high season.
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Jim Hinsch - just back from Boca Chica

Don't believe the papers. I was there and just got back. There were no hotel or bar closings. Various child protection organizations routinely report such nonsense to the media, from what I can tell, in order to maintain their funding.

Prostitution promotions in Europe are quite common, and this particular one happened years ago. But it was news to some DR Govt. official as though it happened yesterday. Thailand, Russia, Switzerland, Germany, Las Vegas, Cambodia, Brazil, Mexico, etc. are also promoted as prostitution paradises. If that is the circle in which you travel, have at it.
 
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DR1

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It's funny....

Many Dominicans I speak to have no idea what goes on in Boca Chica, changes, police etc. They read the papers and assume it's all 100% true. It makes for good news and fund raising ammunition. The power of the press!

Rob.
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Sensationalism and Fabrication - from where?

My investigation shows that much of the "fake" press is the result of Denisse Pichardo, a Catholic nun who oversees the fight against child prostitution in the Dominican Republic, Director of the educative projecto Caminante, along with investigators Nancy Alvarez and Carlos Lugo. Her project gets its money from Church World Service, a sister program of the Project of Integral Development and Fundacion Mario Santo Domingo.

Recent statements by Pichardo and/or her investigators that appeared in the press: "Boca Chica se ha elevado el deterioro del medio ambiental, a la vez que se ha convertido en un para?so sexual de menores. En la playa de Boca Chica los traficantes sexuales ofrecen ni?as a los pederastas como parte del ``men?'' a distintos precios." Loosely translated, "Boca Chica has elevated itself to a damaged place since the time it became a paradise for sex with minors". They also claim the same marked presence of child prostitution in Puerto Plata. Alvarez claims she witnessed kids between the ages of 10 and 12 being "caressed" by tourists in front of the police.
El Nuevo Mundo. Jan 16, 2001.

In one report, Lizardo Jorje, Director of the Tourist Police, said that minors arrive by the busload, daily, in order to be sold to have sex with tourists. Hoy. Dec 7, 2001. What a joke. Sensationalism at its best.

This organization is a frequent source of exaggerations and misrepresentations appearing in the media. It is my opinion, these untrue meia reports are responsible for many of the human rights violations perpetuated against local Dominicans by the police in the form of random arrests and detention without any formal charges.

On top of that, the media sources quote each other as MORE evidence that all this is true. For an example, one only needs to read the editorial that appeared in the Listen Diario on Dec 17, 2001. Loosely translated: The frequency with which the sexual exploitation of minors is denounced in Boca Chica is reliable proof of the gravity of the phenomenon (http://www.listindiario.com.do/antes/171201/cuerpos/opinion/opinion.htm). This same article claims there are 25,000 child prostitutes in the Dominican Republic.

These stories just make me laugh. While I don't doubt there exists child prostitution, most any tourist visiting Boca Chica would not witness it even if they were looking for it, yet the media continues to present the picture of Rampant Child Prostitution, not only in Boca Chica, but elsewhere in the country. These stories reek of sensationalism and fabrication.
 
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mobrouser

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Re: Sensationalism and Fabrication - from where?

jim, it is not just the dominican press reporting this.

Toronto Star
Sunday July 29, 2001

IF IT'S SEX YOU WANT, PLEASE STAY AWAY
Prostitution flourishes as tourists exploit
the poor women, girls and boys of the
Dominican Republic

By Ed Butts

...."The unfortunate image of the D.R. as a sleazy "sex vacation paradise" really hit me when a BBC producer came to school to tape a feature on education in this country.

It turned out the education story was only a side trip. His main purpose was to investigate why the D.R. was getting such bad press in Britain.

He said that if you punched up the Dominican Republic on the Internet, you got information on cheap and available ses. I checked it out and, sure enough, there was a bulletin board on which men from North America and Europe exchange stories and tips on picking up prostitutes in Sosua and the capital, Santo Domingo."....

the author is (i believe) a Canadian teaching in Sosua who has written several articles on DR for the newspaper.

and it has been mentioned here before in relation to child prostitution, that on the internet DR is high on the list of "hot spots".
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Sensationalism and Fabrication - from where?

Yes, I'm aware of all the press. Mostly the press repeating the press, or some individual's sex tourist site. I just don't know why they make it out to be so much bigger than it is. It is maybe 1% of the level compared to any of the following countries (take your pick): Brazil, Mexico, Thailand, Cambodia, Germany, United States, Sweden, Holland, Colombia, .... Yet you don't see these countries being portrayed in this light. Obviously there is prostitution in all these places.

So why try to make the DR look like it is swarming with prostitutes, let alone child prostitutes, when it isn't? Actually I do know why. See previous post.
 
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ricktoronto

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I Haven't seen Anything Even Close to That in BC

I go to BC 5 or 6 times a year and I have not heard of, or seen child anything ( other than a lot of shoe shine boys) in the town and I doubt it is anything at all like described.

The site mentioned if it is the one I think it is not only eschews anything under age but is pretty sour on Boca Chica anyway, so it does not promote anything of the sort.
 
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Diana

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Re: Terrible choice for Spring Break

I have been to Punta Cana 2x and Boca Chica 2x. I loved both of them, but the resort in Punta Cana was full of couples and families, the discos were fun but there weren't that many people. Also since there are many resorts there it's hard to mingle with people at other resorts (however the resorts are paradise). Whereas in Boca Chica even if you stay at the resort you can walk out into town and mingle with plenty of people and hop over to different bars and cafes. The beach was alot more happening and fun. I've never been to Puerto Plata but I heard that's a fun place with alot of single people.
 
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Smoak

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QUESTION

Guys,
I am not going to pay for prostitution, I am not worried about that. I was just wondering if there would be females my age around the resort. From the other message boards I have posted on, they say that there will be. Have any of you been around PC during the college spring break time? I called our travel agent and they promised that PC was the next big thing for Spring Break. Just let me know what you all think.
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: QUESTION

I have been to Punta Cana during spring break. It is as I and others have described it. You will find plenty of singles at the resorts in BC.

Ask yourself something. How old is tour travel agent? Has your travel agent been to Punta Cana for spring break? Enough said.

I don't care what time of the year it is. Punta Cana has no town. It is just not set up for a spring break type atmosphere. There is very little in the way of public businesses. Almost everything is in the individual resorts. For a good spring break, there has to be a possibility to mingle. If you are OK with mingling with only the other folks at your hotel, who are mostly couples and families, fine.
 
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mobrouser

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Re: I Haven't seen Anything Even Close to That in

rick and jim, i have no personal knowledge of the website and i am certainly not an expert on prostitution in BC or anywhere else for that matter.

my point was simply to show any one reading these messages that it is not only DR press reporting on the phenomenom and that among others the BBC had picked up on this story. my impression of the BBC is that it is one of the most reputable organizations as far as creditable journalism goes-this is certainly true in the past and i am unaware of any changes. for them to undertake a story that jim refers to as "fake" press is puzzling.

mob
 
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Diana

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Re: QUESTION

I was in BC in Feb. and in April, much more busier and fun in February. I was not in PC around spring break time, I was there in Nov. and April and Nov. was more fun than April. I went down with a few single girlfriends and of all the times I was there, the best time was Feb. 2001 in BC. Hope that helps.