It's understood, there are a lot of folks who used, use and will use service of sex workers. I just came across a moderator's post about women tested in a clinic and most of them have had STDs. If so, there must be a lot of guys who may have had medical problems when they were back home from DR and I'd like to hear if anyone has had anything to worry about or heard about what was the real size of this problem. Inderstood that it is delicate subject and it would probably no one who could come up and say I contracted herpes or anything else much worse in DR...
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STDs in DR
When your in DR use the same precautions you would normally use where you live and you will have no problems in DR. I have been travelling to DR now for well over 12 years and have never had a problem so be careful and enjoy.
Badpiece
Badpiece
I would like to see your reference to the Moderator,
that said,"Most women who are checked at the clinicas have STDs????????????????????????CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc :nervous:
that said,"Most women who are checked at the clinicas have STDs????????????????????????CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc :nervous:
He was probably referring to
Those women in the sex trade that were tested. A huge number of them are HIV positive, this has been commented on in numberous articles and threads. As for things such as genitle herpes, syphilis aand gonorhea, these are even more widespread.
Be wise, be safe, be sure...
HB
Those women in the sex trade that were tested. A huge number of them are HIV positive, this has been commented on in numberous articles and threads. As for things such as genitle herpes, syphilis aand gonorhea, these are even more widespread.
Be wise, be safe, be sure...
HB
Any time you speak of percentages in this country I am very wary. Frankly I don't think this country has the first clue about what they say and at best everything is a guesstimate and not a fact. The more I travel around this country and see how things work in the Government Offices the more I believe what I just said.
Using condoms is a very good idea in this country and any other country and that fact I don't believe needs to be tossed back and forth like it is on this board. You would have to be deaf and dumb for your whole life not to know that fact of life when it comes to the pros.
Using condoms is a very good idea in this country and any other country and that fact I don't believe needs to be tossed back and forth like it is on this board. You would have to be deaf and dumb for your whole life not to know that fact of life when it comes to the pros.
The reason I mentioned herpes is condoms may not protect from that disease, it is incurable though of course not fatal like HIV, but nevertheless can be painful and bring some intimate problems. Considering the number of clients those sex workers have sex with I may assume it must be widespread issue for both.
Zorbabr,
Alot of sex workers in the DR have or may have had stds thoughout their lives. Some are curable, treatable, and of course life-threatening. It's the risk that you take. One simply has to decide wether or not it's worth it to them.
Honestly,I would'nt say that most pros in the RD are HIV positive, but I've heard that most of them have herpes and other incurable diseases.
All over the internet you find sex tourists,who frequent the DR giving elaborate details of their adventures with dominican women. Those are the lucky ones, who return unscathed. The ones you don't hear from though are the guys that get BURNED. I'm sure it happens, condoms do break.Not to mention that condoms don't provide complete protection for all stds out there.
Carl ericson
Alot of sex workers in the DR have or may have had stds thoughout their lives. Some are curable, treatable, and of course life-threatening. It's the risk that you take. One simply has to decide wether or not it's worth it to them.
Honestly,I would'nt say that most pros in the RD are HIV positive, but I've heard that most of them have herpes and other incurable diseases.
All over the internet you find sex tourists,who frequent the DR giving elaborate details of their adventures with dominican women. Those are the lucky ones, who return unscathed. The ones you don't hear from though are the guys that get BURNED. I'm sure it happens, condoms do break.Not to mention that condoms don't provide complete protection for all stds out there.
Carl ericson
HIV/AIDS In Dr
There are 130,000 adults between the ages of 15-45 living with AIDS in the Dominican Republic.
4,800 children under the age of 15 has the virus.
A total of 260,000 children DR have been orphaned due to the AIDS epidemic.
keep in mind these stats come from documented cases, one must consider those who have not been tested and are unaware of their HIV/AIDS status
There are 130,000 adults between the ages of 15-45 living with AIDS in the Dominican Republic.
4,800 children under the age of 15 has the virus.
A total of 260,000 children DR have been orphaned due to the AIDS epidemic.
keep in mind these stats come from documented cases, one must consider those who have not been tested and are unaware of their HIV/AIDS status
DR is not the only country that has a problem with AIDS, STD's, prostitution, tourists coming for reasons other than to visit the historic monuments, garbage collection, corrupt politicians (have you ever been to rural Louisiana?), being mean to animals, crooked lawyers, salmonella, pediphile priests, homeowner association nazis, etc., etc., etc..
There are ways to prevent or keep from having any of them affect you.
A soapbox ain't one of them. Getting on one to preach, expecting results, is like peeing in a pair of dark wool slacks: you feel all warm and fuzzy, but nobody notices.
Using ones brain and common sense is.
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There are ways to prevent or keep from having any of them affect you.
A soapbox ain't one of them. Getting on one to preach, expecting results, is like peeing in a pair of dark wool slacks: you feel all warm and fuzzy, but nobody notices.
Using ones brain and common sense is.
<sheesh...>
cobraboy said:
Damn you sound angry! anyway
Please understand the more people talk about the AIDS
epidemic (in this country or around the world) the more people will become informed and take steps toward prevention.
Its not about being on a soapbox, but if thats what it takes to save lives then I suggest to everyone keep on preaching and more preaching
:surprisedmackhard said:
Not angry at all, mackhard. I do live in realtiy, though. Some may intrepret that as angry.
I was a pioneer in the home infusion business (IV Therapy) in the late 80's to mid 90's. At one time my company has 1200 AIDS patients around Florida. It's something I know a little about.
My point that you missed was that "education" (i.e. the "soapbox" I mentioned) has been around for quite a while. Do you really expect me to believe that people-whether a sex worker in the barrio or a wealthy European tourist-don't know about AIDS, what causes it, and how to avoid it? Puh-leeeeeze....
There is a huge difference between education and action.
People have to WANT to remain safe. Preaching to the choir does little to affect human behaviors.
Life is painful. It's even more painful when you're stupid...
If you really want to be shocked just do a search for this subject in this forum and read what people have written.cobraboy said::surprised
My point that you missed was that "education" (i.e. the "soapbox" I mentioned) has been around for quite a while. Do you really expect me to believe that people-whether a sex worker in the barrio or a wealthy European tourist-don't know about AIDS, what causes it, and how to avoid it? Puh-leeeeeze....
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Nothing shocks me anymore.Anna Coniglio said:If you really want to be shocked just do a search for this subject in this forum and read what people have written.
Like I said in the last line of my last post, Life is painful; it's even more painful when you're stupid...
My point is education just doesn't translate into behavior. You can't control the other person, you can only control yourself.
Zorbabr . . if you meet, dated and sleep with a DR girl in a matter of 3 days . . .
Chances are you were in the heart of STD hell. THere are pleanty of historical comments about this on the DR board, no one has admitted to a deises yet, but do a seach and read the threads, this is a well discussed issue.
There is more than HIV there and it's woth getting tested, I've seen DR males totally convinced that they had HIV and were going to die, and had something more mild. I've also heard plenty of HIV stories. But I told them before, so just do a search.
-Lee
zorbabr said:
Chances are you were in the heart of STD hell. THere are pleanty of historical comments about this on the DR board, no one has admitted to a deises yet, but do a seach and read the threads, this is a well discussed issue.
There is more than HIV there and it's woth getting tested, I've seen DR males totally convinced that they had HIV and were going to die, and had something more mild. I've also heard plenty of HIV stories. But I told them before, so just do a search.
-Lee
HIV is not Rampant in DR
Here are some interesting sites in regards to the HIV hysteria that affect us all at one point or another
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cghysteria.htm
http://www.fumento.com/goodmyth.html
http://www.duesberg.com/subject/beeis.html
http://aidsmyth.addr.com/mythtv/aidsmythbuster_on.htm
Now I want you all to go out and enjoy your sexual relations and stop worrying yourself sick about HIV in the DR.
Badpiece
Here are some interesting sites in regards to the HIV hysteria that affect us all at one point or another
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/cghysteria.htm
http://www.fumento.com/goodmyth.html
http://www.duesberg.com/subject/beeis.html
http://aidsmyth.addr.com/mythtv/aidsmythbuster_on.htm
Now I want you all to go out and enjoy your sexual relations and stop worrying yourself sick about HIV in the DR.
Badpiece
Please pull your head out of the sand . . . .
Why do you believe that HIV is not a heterosexual desiese? Because you don't want to give up your life style period, so it does not matter what the facts are, as long as you can close your eyes and click your heels and say "I wish it weren't so" a thousand times. I guess it halps to have some people feeding you stories too.
-Lee
Why do you believe that HIV is not a heterosexual desiese? Because you don't want to give up your life style period, so it does not matter what the facts are, as long as you can close your eyes and click your heels and say "I wish it weren't so" a thousand times. I guess it halps to have some people feeding you stories too.
-Lee
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If being a man means to contract (and spread) gonorrhea then I would rather be non-human. It concerns me that there seems to be a lack of responsibility on the STD and HIV issue. It is not just about you. You SPREAD it to others when you behave irresponsibly. Wandering husbands/boyfriends are the single most reasons for high HIV contaction rates among women in developing countries.
Once shame on you, twice shame on me. Any woman worth her salt should not get within a 10 foot pole of men who think as you do.
Happy spreading of venereal/deadly diseases.
Once shame on you, twice shame on me. Any woman worth her salt should not get within a 10 foot pole of men who think as you do.
Happy spreading of venereal/deadly diseases.
zorbabr said:
Lee, I have no intention to try to persuade your opinions otherwise. As I stated in an earlier post, this particular disease is something I know something about from an "inside the industry" perspective.ltsnyder said:
AIDS exists, and it is a nasty condition.
But it is not nearly as prevalent as some would want you to believe.
AIDS is the most political disease of our time, possibly ever. There are numerous well researched books that clearly make this case. The research dollar spent per diagnosis is higher than ANY disease or condition that has ever existed on this planet.
Anecdotally, go back to the mid-90's when many "authorities" were sounding the claxons about how it would wipe out not just gay men, but heterosexuals as well. Neither happened. Most gays changed their behaviors, and not just with condoms-the use of recreational drugs, some which significantly compromise the immune system, decreased and monogamous relationships increased. Hetersexual AIDS is still, to this day, practically non-existant. IV drug users are still a problem, but most of these people are whacked anyway-you will not educate someone who shoots heroine into their vein about a healthy lifestyle.
The Great Heterosexual AIDS Scourge never happened. Singles bars and swinger clubs are still thriving, and they "sell" heterosexual sex. And condom use, while rising, is still not used by all.
Statistics lie. The African issue was manufactured by the UN. To this day, not even 5% of AIDS cases are diagnosed by testing. Diseases that have always been a problem in Africa are now considered AIDS-tuberculosis, wasting syndrome, conditions from sanitary conditions, etc. have conveniently been classified as AIDS.
Why? As one AIDS activist told me (I sat on several Board of Directors of local and national AIDS groups): "We won't get more funding until we back the ambulance up to Joe and Molly Six-Pack's home in Keokuck Iowa".
Pharmaceutical companies have a stake in fear-mongering, too. AIDS is big business, and public funding for "orphan" drug research can have spin-offs for profitable non-AIDS/retroviral drugs.
AIDS is Politically Correct. In the states, one party gets considerable campaign contributions by scare-mongering, and soliciting contributions from AIDS-centric groups.
One prominent Infectious Disease physician-who sat on a board with me-in a moment of candor over some wine at dinner, told me: "If you don't shoot drugs, if you don't do unprotected anal sex, and you don't sex someone who does, you won't be seeing me."
This is not to say I advocate promiscuous behavior. Au Contraire. Use your head. Have a monogamous heterosexual relationship. If you can't, use condoms. Say No to Drugs. Stay away from poppers. Stay away from putas. And you'll be fine.
But use logic, and no fear-mongering.