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    Default In trouble!!!! Urgent!!!!!

    Hello all, and good evening. I am a tourist in DR who entered a hotel's casino last night and was "roped into" a scam whereas I lost $6500 US on a game called "caribbean keno". This game requires the bettor to continually double their bets (from $5 to $10 to $20 and so on) in order to have any chance whatsoever to recover the initial investment. Part of the money lost was on a credit card charge agreement that I signed. However, the credit card company declines to approve the transaction of $5900. My questions are the following:

    1) Are the casinos of DR regulated in any way to enforce the assumption that each ball in a keno game has an equal likelihood of being chosen?

    2) Are the casinos allowed to mislead the customer as to the odds of drawing balls that give them a chance to win?

    3) Are the casinos required to pay the advertised jackpot, no matter how high it is (ie if it were $10 Million US dollars, could they evade all or part of the payout)?

    4) Now that I have signed this agreement with them to pay up by monday, am I legally required to uphold it as a citizen of the US? If so, would I have any legal right to dispute the credit card charge as fraudulent to my US based credit card company, if I could indeed prove to that bank's satisfaction that the game I played is crooked or misleading?

    Please help ASAP!!!! I must do something by Monday at noon Atlantic time..

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    I’m sure this issue was covered here on DR1 before. I know someone that was taken for much MUCH more then you’ve been and he’s still paying off the credit card bill 5 years later.

    As far as I know casinos in the DR are not regulated (I could be wrong) and that particular game is fixed and as such they are not concerned with paying out the jackpot as it is an impossibility to win anyways.

    But that is of no importance either way because once you’ve played, lost and signed a promissory note or what not, you’ve sealed you fate. From what I understand, they’ll (the casino) have the right to keep you from getting on your flight home if the debt is not paid.

    You should hope that the resident DR1 lawyer, Mr. Fabio Guzman is online today and can provide some solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarity
    Please help ASAP!!!! I must do something by Monday at noon Atlantic time..
    If I were you, I would contact my credit card company and ask them to put the charge through, or have someone wire the money.

    It would probably be difficult and expensive for them to collect from you in the US or affect your credit but it would probably be quite easy for them to prevent you from leaving the country and who knows what would happen to you then.

    I too got taken by the Prograssive Roulette for around $2k US.
    I was just doing the door girl a favour by checking out the game.
    I believe the scam part is that most people count on them to add up the balls.
    They add them up such that you quickly get very close to 100 and winning.
    Then people tend to pay attention to the addition of the balls but it is too late.
    There is no way the balls would always randomly get all players so quickly so close to 100 and then they all get stuck there without getting the few remaining points they need to win.
    That's why the area is blocked so that people can't watch and count the balls.

    I noticed the Paradise has removed the PR and put in the Keno game.
    I never saw anyone play the week I was there.

    Chalk it up to Learning expense and move on.

    Good luck.

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    Try the Ferry to Puerto Rico!
    Maybe the goons from the casino won't be blocking your exit at this port.

    http://www.ferriesdelcaribe.com/index.htm
    Last edited by Lechero; 11-07-2004 at 10:36 PM.

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    I have another long shot that may help. Which Casino is it? Do that have any minimun contacts in the state in which you live? If so, sue them in your home state for fraud. They will probably not show up and you can get a deafult against them. Then you will have to see if you can execute on the judgment in the Dominican Republic. I did this with a car rental company located in Santiago, and was able to get them to refund an excess charge. Its a long shot, but take a look into it. Either way, you are going to have to pay and try to recoup later. Another tactic is to have your credit car issuer pay them, then disputre the charge. You may have a cause of action against you card issuer if they do not handle it properly and in accordance with the terms of your credit card agreement. Again, either way, pay it and get the hell out of there. Let me know how it works out.

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    in real terms you is F---ked! The quickest and cheapest way is to contact cc company and stop all charges. then, cancel the cc account. Meanwhile, and pronto end your holiday, get out of the country. And then you can argue from within your own country.
    Remember you did sign those notes and thought you could win. So to does every one who trys to pick the ace at a three card monty game on a street corner.
    Your cc company will not not pay the charges if submitted by the casino and the acct is active.
    I know this from personal experience.
    Stop thinking about what to do and do it. You can always go on another holiday. Let us know how it turns out.
    Good luck,John

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    A friend lost $25,000 on the same game so I guess you did pretty good!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarity
    Please help ASAP!!!! I must do something by Monday at noon Atlantic time..
    As the game is rigged, therefore a con, you should feel justified to do anything and everything possible to not pay them.
    When someone robs you, you are within your rights to defend yourself anyway you see fit, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky
    As the game is rigged, therefore a con, you should feel justified to do anything and everything possible to not pay them.
    When someone robs you, you are within your rights to defend yourself anyway you see fit, IMHO.
    Well if you dont intend to return to D.R. Have your Credit Card company refuse the charge, AA flight if not already on your way to USA. probable savings 5000.00. U.S.... Beheading not fashionable here as yet I understand. Funny how most troubles start with a girl. Cheers. M.

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