And your solution to providing 24/7 electrical power is ????????????
People have been paying $10 in and $20 out for years. Those that want to come still do.
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And your solution to providing 24/7 electrical power is ????????????
People have been paying $10 in and $20 out for years. Those that want to come still do.
its not the $10 or $20 BB,how about $130 in taxes from NY,plus the entry fee.I know its a different world and anti-terrorism fees and all that,but on a large scale,a family can go to PR much cheaper.I'm not fighting with you,but think of all the money tourism brings in..its not hard to kill the goose.NYC did it in the 70's&80's.as for me,i can afford it,so it doesnt hurt so much,,now back to the electricity problem.something that is keeping me from moving there.
PS.I dont know what the answer is,but I do know what it isnt..
Again I don't know the full details as I don't work in that industry, but I'm sure they got all of that covered. Remember they implemented this in the worst neighborhoods of South Africa which had the same issues as The DR or worse.
Not true that you need wireless communication to monitor electricity. In case you didn't know electric cables can and are used as computer networks with each end having it's own IP address, etc. so it can be easily monitored with the right equipment.
As a matter of fact a few years back companies in The US were heavily looking into offering internet through the electric infrastructure, which would actually be much faster that cable internet, but for commercial and other reasons this never came to fruition.
I have only been visiting the DR for five years. Five years ago I read about the electricity problem. Today I read about the electricity problem. Five years from now I believe I will still be reading about the electricity problem. It seems to me the electricity problem is not a major concern for the DR government. They can build a Metro with the latest technology so I am sure if electricity was a big concern it would be resolved.
We can go back and forth on this forum until hell frezzes over and nothing said will mean squat to the DR government.
If by "give the poor people a break" you are referring to those that actually pay their bills and live in a 24/7 area and yet STILL have irradict light, brown outs, black out, grey outs... Then yes, give us a break.
Now if by poor people you are actually referring to nothing but criminals then, no. Come live down here for a while and see if your views change. Most of these poor, poor souls are nothing more than thieves, they steal electricity AND the copper wire. Every barrio has their special committee of expert thieves that just so happen to know how to get you electricity for free.
So you want the people here who are already having to pay large electrical bills with spotty service more?
No, bigbird, absolutely not. I do not condone their thievery just because you feel like "it's the right thing to do." Or because you want a break. If you want a break get yourself a kit-kat not me higher tariffs .
By the way there is no need to put steal in commas. Just because they live in a poorer country than you and don't have brand new orginal Levi's jeans makes them no less human. They should still be upheld, as ALL humans have the right to, to the law and morals of our/this country.
It is stealing, pure and simple. Not "stealing". They are not little children or dogs that don't know what they are doing.
If the commas make you feel better about condoning it and advocating it... What can I say?
Bueno ya, este thread es como llover sobre tierra mojada.
The situation will never change, like winde said. To change it would spell disaster, better just to give out free salami from a helicopter.
Because the important people in this country can afford to buy and run a generator so it's no biggie... Screw anyone else, right? hehe
i THINK ITS FAIR THAT THEY DONT PAY ELECTRICITY, MAYBE WE SHOULD START HAVING THE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE START PAYING TAXES FOR BRING IN fERRARI'S rOLLS rOYCE, lAMBORGINI.... ITS A FAIR TRADE OFF
get what you can get, because counting on the government to do the right thing is NOT going to happen
get what you can get, because counting on the government to do the right thing is NOT going to happen
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can not pay then do not need it!
Then they do not need it, electricity is a privilege, it is not a necessity, mankind had survived for many many years without electricity.
I feel for poor people here of course but taxes here are extremely high and so is the electrical rates already, and I do not need to be paying more and subsidizing every tin shack in the DR.
It is a real screwed up mentality that electricity is a right, it is not, just like my mangos on my tree are mine and not Gods for the whole world to partake of.............if they steal it, they steal but do not give it to them and expect me to pay for their electricity, willingly!.
damn bleeding heart socialist!
Then they do not need it, electricity is a privilege, it is not a necessity, mankind had survived for many many years without electricity.
I feel for poor people here of course but taxes here are extremely high and so is the electrical rates already, and I do not need to be paying more and subsidizing every tin shack in the DR.
It is a real screwed up mentality that electricity is a right, it is not, just like my mangos on my tree are mine and not Gods for the whole world to partake of.............if they steal it, they steal but do not give it to them and expect me to pay for their electricity, willingly!.
damn bleeding heart socialist!
Instead of jumping down the barrio stealing electricity folks why don't you do something about your government to make a change? Do you honestly think the electricity thieves are the reason for lack of 24/7 electricity?
The dilemma is politicians, while openly tout that they are loved by the people, secretly know that they are in a precarious position and know they are living on thin ice anytime they want to hypocritically raise taxes or otherwise that would cause the people to revolt. As the people only respect politicians in direct proportion to how much they are being paid most feel it is their "right" to get something seeing how their leaders have put forward, and continue to do so, such a "good" example.
You will only see sweeping changes in this country when we have young conscientious patriotic adults entering the political scene.
You will only see sweeping changes in this country when we have young conscientious patriotic adults entering the political scene.
Patriotism seems to be nearly a lost trait now a days, I can not say that I have witnessed nor heard of any great actual patriotic movements here in this country.
So your sweeping changes may just never come...........unfortunately.
I agree that politicalism & cronyism are the new age patriotism's aligned and sympathetic to ones own aspirations.
Yes, I do.
I mean of course SOMETIMES the lack of power is caused by a bad transformer, a crash or some other unfortunate act. But the majority of the time they are scheduled power outs to regain some kind of cost.
Are this scheduled power outs due to barrios only? No, not entirely. It is also because of the government not paying THEIR tabs. The barrios and the government are the thieves here. I want to support neither.
Do something about the government? Haha, let's try to keep this realistic
. As I said, the rich can buy generators and the diesel to run them. They are not affected. Why should they bother then?There are many ways to solve this issue as we all know. Trust me if the government is able to enforce the alcohol ban in a drinking country like The DR, they could enforce the payment of electricity if they wanted to. The issue is that just like The US and the "war on drugs" there are tons of people benefiting from keeping the status quo and as such nothing will change any time soon...so people keep your batteries charged and keep some "battery viagra" handy, because we're in for a long haul.
A thief out of need and a thief out of greed.............
It seems everyone is so quick to point the finger at the barrio thieves but in reality they are NOT the primary cause for lack of electricity. Your government won't do a thing about the electricity problem probably because a majority of their votes came from people getting free electricity. I guess it is just human nature to pick on the little guy who can't defend himself.
If an attempt to police it is made then some difference may be made. At the moment entire areas are free of charge, it is known and left to carry on. For example, the entirity of Coleta on LA has free electricity, that is a massive place with many homes, no one is expected to pay electricity. All the way out on the LA road people are living bill free, it is accepted and just lived with. I looked at a new build, I asked the owner about electricity costs out there, he told me if I pay the first 2 months he would then hack me in on free electricity so I needn't pay anything. We agreed on he would pay the first month, I would pay the second and then he would connect me up for free. Obviously I haven't gone through with this, but it seems absolutely acceptable, this guy isn't Dominican, he is Spanish and reasonably wealthy, so it isn't only the natives.