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Barcelo dumping garbage in Cortecito near schools
Have they cleaned the trash? If not, go viral, this will be a good lesson for them and other hotels. Take a video or a few pictures of the garbage pile and post them on Tripadvisor and other sites. Give us the links and we will spread them across the globe.
If you don't do this, they will find another empty spot.
btw, it is absolutely ilegal to fire all that trash.
it is absolutely unacceptable when all condos here at el cortecito get surrounded with big smoke everywhere.
how the hell those "animals" dare to make a big fire with the trash just some meters away from our homes???? where we live!!! where there are people trying to enjoy holidays!!!
More than once I have felt the need to go downstair, catch the animal who made the fire and make some justice ...
it is absolutely unacceptable when all condos here at el cortecito get surrounded with big smoke everywhere.
how the hell those "animals" dare to make a big fire with the trash just some meters away from our homes???? where we live!!! where there are people trying to enjoy holidays!!!
More than once I have felt the need to go downstair, catch the animal who made the fire and make some justice ...
Great job!! These "maintenance" workers for Barcelo probably thought they came up with a great solution to rid themselves and the hotel of this garbage. Environment! Please, that is the last of their minds. Environmental issues are hard to solve in the DR. You have to re-train people's habits and mindset. Throw garbage on the ground, throw it out of your car, throw it in the ocean and forget it. This what happens a lot in the DR. Littering is one of those things that people think does not have an impact on anyone else. Wrong.
It will take a couple generations before you see any real impact on garbage and litter on the streets and this is only if the DR Gov does a better job in making this a priority and educating the public to this fact.
LTSteve
It will take a couple generations before you see any real impact on garbage and litter on the streets and this is only if the DR Gov does a better job in making this a priority and educating the public to this fact.
LTSteve
yes, Steve, but there is the matter of agency here. the hotel has a duty to be aware of what their employees are doing. if they commit them to the duty of rubbish disposal, it is their responsibility to know exactly where the dump site is.
it's the one right in the center of Cortecito. Between where el Pulpo Cojo was and the Playa Turquesa complex is. It's a little smaller and older than many of the others in the area, but when I stayed there a couple of years ago, it was O.K.
Thanks.................Is it the old H10?
The management is probably totally unaware of what this employee is doing......
It is true that it isn't always easy to get someone in management to stop, look, listen and act...
But don't give them an inch, they will want a mile.
Is the manager Dominican?
The management is probably totally unaware of what this employee is doing......
It is true that it isn't always easy to get someone in management to stop, look, listen and act...
But don't give them an inch, they will want a mile.
Is the manager Dominican?
Haha... I'm not quite that much of an activist. If I was there, I would have helped out for a while; but to be honest, while I don't think it's a fool's errand, or even a waste of time, I do think it's a remedy for a symptom, not the disease. The trash will be back soon, if not already. Hopefully the effort might have some small lasting effect as an example ... but in reality, for any meaningful change to happen, it will take time, time, and more time.
On another note: while I'm not a fan of trash, the bigger picture of the whole "let's make it better" mentality does give me pause. The trash issue is probably not the best example of what I mean, but it's an indicator of an overriding trend I frequently see. No, I don't like trash, (and I don't litter). Yes, cleaning up trash is a good thing. BUT the well meaning intentions have a flip side to them. Mostly it's the whole "OUR way is better" mentality, (which can boil down to WE are better). Of course the gringos would never say they mean it like this ... and probably don't on the surface, but it's the basis of the thoughts and actions. Many people I've talked to have purchased their slice of "paradise" but are bothered, irritated or even horrified by any of the thousands of things which are indicative of a "third world" nation... trash being just one of them. SO, they want to "fix" it ... in short, make it like "back home". As for me??? I chose the D.R. for ALL of it's qualities, and did so with eyes wide open. I like things a "little rough around the edges". I might be a bit of a hypocrite, since I DO like 24 hr electricity, I DO like working plumbing, I DO like my nicely appointed modern apartment in the well maintained gated complex ... but I'm not out to make the D.R. another Miami Beach either.
i do not believe that you can add a single sentence to what you just said that will make it any more profound.
UPDATE
Here is the response I got from writing Barcelo head office:
Thanks for contacting us regarding this important topic. We would like to communicate with you by phone in order to give you the proper explanation to this Matter. Any way we confirm you this procedure was stopped a few weeks ago.
Please be so kind to send us your number and we will be pleased to call you.
Best Regards,
Radhames Martinez Ruiz
Direccion General
Director
Ave. Alemania | A-B 108 | B?varo, Punta Cana | Rep?blica Dominicana
Tel. 809. 221. 0714 Ext. 1629 | Fax. 809.221.6991
I replied back with my phone number and explained I had taken photos of his staff doing this on Friday (still no phone call). I realize he probably has no idea his staff are still doing this but in the end he is responsible for his management staff and employees. What disappoints me more is that even after he thought they had stopped, and was aware of the situation, they have never made an attempt to clean it up.
I am now going to go to the media with this.
Cortecito is a small community with few streets. I dont think it will take that much effort to stop something like this from continuing. In time people will get the message. Yesterday I chased a truck out just by following him around. He knew he was doing something wrong so after circling around the blocks with me behind him he left the area. Im sure he dumped in someone else's backyard but its not in mine anymore and not beside my daughters school!!!
Here is the response I got from writing Barcelo head office:
Thanks for contacting us regarding this important topic. We would like to communicate with you by phone in order to give you the proper explanation to this Matter. Any way we confirm you this procedure was stopped a few weeks ago.
Please be so kind to send us your number and we will be pleased to call you.
Best Regards,
Radhames Martinez Ruiz
Direccion General
Director
Ave. Alemania | A-B 108 | B?varo, Punta Cana | Rep?blica Dominicana
Tel. 809. 221. 0714 Ext. 1629 | Fax. 809.221.6991
I replied back with my phone number and explained I had taken photos of his staff doing this on Friday (still no phone call). I realize he probably has no idea his staff are still doing this but in the end he is responsible for his management staff and employees. What disappoints me more is that even after he thought they had stopped, and was aware of the situation, they have never made an attempt to clean it up.
I am now going to go to the media with this.
Cortecito is a small community with few streets. I dont think it will take that much effort to stop something like this from continuing. In time people will get the message. Yesterday I chased a truck out just by following him around. He knew he was doing something wrong so after circling around the blocks with me behind him he left the area. Im sure he dumped in someone else's backyard but its not in mine anymore and not beside my daughters school!!!
to capngenn, I quote it only takes good men to do nothing for the evil to triumph... or some thing like that cos I m bit burracho at the moment....
I try to set an example for the young ones even if I dont have thesecret of life..... I dont know if I mbetter than them but I listen to my heart, and common sense( no one wants to live on or beside a pile of ****). if no one says or does anytthing....
I try to set an example for the young ones even if I dont have thesecret of life..... I dont know if I mbetter than them but I listen to my heart, and common sense( no one wants to live on or beside a pile of ****). if no one says or does anytthing....
we should strongly make a boicot to this hotel in many different ways, make them regret what they did ...
one great thing would be showing on the beach to their clients on their hamacas some pics of what this hotel is doing with the environment ...
one great thing would be showing on the beach to their clients on their hamacas some pics of what this hotel is doing with the environment ...
Contact Bavaro News, as I have suggested. If you have pictures-in-action, great. Attach your communication with the hotel and explanation that it still continues.
Contact Mrs. Marcelle Flores, editor-in-chief, Bavaro News
email: "marcelle @ editorabavaro .com" and copy to "redaccion@ editorabavaro .com" (remove the spaces)
Address: Boulevard 1ro de Noviembre #303, Edif. Las Arenas, Local 4-A, PUNTACANA village.
Tel. 809-959-9021
Contact Mrs. Marcelle Flores, editor-in-chief, Bavaro News
email: "marcelle @ editorabavaro .com" and copy to "redaccion@ editorabavaro .com" (remove the spaces)
Address: Boulevard 1ro de Noviembre #303, Edif. Las Arenas, Local 4-A, PUNTACANA village.
Tel. 809-959-9021
David 1 - Goliath 0
Today the hotel went to the empty lot and cleaned up the garbage. There is still piles of algae and some some piles of cement and broken tile. The Algae was sifted through to clean out the garbage within it. The manager of the hotel commented that the owner of the lot had given them permission to dispose of algae from the beach and Im sure he probably also gave permission for the cement and tile to use as fill for future construction. Although it still looks like crap it was a good first step and there is no more unsightly and smelly trash!
Thanks to everyone for your support. I hope we can maintain this and continue to keep trash off our streets. I think the next step would be to get the property owners of these empty lots to be more conscientious of what gets put on their lots but that might be too much too ask!
Today the hotel went to the empty lot and cleaned up the garbage. There is still piles of algae and some some piles of cement and broken tile. The Algae was sifted through to clean out the garbage within it. The manager of the hotel commented that the owner of the lot had given them permission to dispose of algae from the beach and Im sure he probably also gave permission for the cement and tile to use as fill for future construction. Although it still looks like crap it was a good first step and there is no more unsightly and smelly trash!
Thanks to everyone for your support. I hope we can maintain this and continue to keep trash off our streets. I think the next step would be to get the property owners of these empty lots to be more conscientious of what gets put on their lots but that might be too much too ask!
Congratulations on a job well done.
It must feel good to have met with a certain level of success.
Did you finally get a chance to speak with the manager of the hotel? If so, that should help with any future follow-up.
Any chance you could be a bit more specific about which property was involved?
Is the school that you referred to, the public school across from the Palladium property on the way into el Cortecito?
It must feel good to have met with a certain level of success.
Did you finally get a chance to speak with the manager of the hotel? If so, that should help with any future follow-up.
Any chance you could be a bit more specific about which property was involved?
Is the school that you referred to, the public school across from the Palladium property on the way into el Cortecito?
The School is Arca de Noe, its about 3 blocks from Barcelo Dominican Beach, there is some sort of water treatment plant back there and the residence Arenas del Caribe. I spoke with the manager Simone last Friday. He has been very understanding and open to communication throughout. I also received emails from Barcelo head offices.
I don't blame the hotel as I understand they were unaware of the issue. Nonetheless I caught them red handed with pictures which made them an easy target to put pressure on to clean it up. I hope that since the incident was resolved amicably that a better relationship can unfold from this and the hotels can get more involved with helping the community in all aspects. Wishful thinking but positive energy and thinking usually is more productive then negativity and pessimism.
I don't blame the hotel as I understand they were unaware of the issue. Nonetheless I caught them red handed with pictures which made them an easy target to put pressure on to clean it up. I hope that since the incident was resolved amicably that a better relationship can unfold from this and the hotels can get more involved with helping the community in all aspects. Wishful thinking but positive energy and thinking usually is more productive then negativity and pessimism.
Drdirectional - I commend you for a job well done. Most people would look the other way.
Community involvement and education would make this place so much better.
Community involvement and education would make this place so much better.