Coronavirus - In the DR

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El Rey de Mangu said:
It's already working from what I hear
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No doubt such actions make a tremendous difference.

And in another situation which makes just as much sense:
Even after officials tell people (not in the health care field) not to wear gloves because wearing gloves can make the spread of the virus worse,
I am still seeing police handing out gloves to people in barrios and government officials wearing them when on TV. And I assume some businesses still require gloves to enter their establishments. It appears this is a difficult message to make clear.
 
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In my NY Times daily email today:

3. The riddle of virus not-spots
A reminder of just how little we understand about the coronavirus: It devastates some countries but largely spares their neighbors — Iran, but not Iraq; the Dominican Republic but not Haiti; Indonesia but not Malaysia. The reasons remain murky.
The most troubling possibility: The virus just hasn’t gotten to the unaffected countries yet. One researcher said that if the pandemic was a baseball game, “it would be the second inning.”
A team of Times journalists based around the world — Hannah Beech, Alissa Rubin, Anatoly Kurmanaev and Ruth Maclean — has much more detail in their story.
 
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windeguy said:
In my NY Times daily email today:

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3. The riddle of virus not-spots

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A reminder of just how little we understand about the coronavirus: It devastates some countries but largely spares their neighbors — Iran, but not Iraq; the Dominican Republic but not Haiti; Indonesia but not Malaysia. The reasons remain murky.

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The most troubling possibility: The virus just hasn’t gotten to the unaffected countries yet. One researcher said that if the pandemic was a baseball game, “it would be the second inning.”

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A team of Times journalists based around the world — Hannah Beech, Alissa Rubin, Anatoly Kurmanaev and Ruth Maclean — has much more detail in their story.
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Interesting. Could it be the lack of major tourism in Haiti and Iraq? I know Haiti shut airports early, maybe the only ones bringing it in are Haitians coming home from DR?
 
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windeguy said:
No doubt such actions make a tremendous difference.

And in another situation which makes just as much sense:
Even after officials tell people (not in the health care field) not to wear gloves because wearing gloves can make the spread of the virus worse,
I am still seeing police handing out gloves to people in barrios and government officials wearing them when on TV. And I assume some businesses still require gloves to enter their establishments. It appears this is a difficult message to make clear.
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My motoconcho was wearing the same gloves everyday. I said you realize that is 1000 times worse than bare hands. I got him to not use them. The Conchos have it tough because they are in the streets all day except for lunch, very few places to wash their hands. Tons of money transacting in their hands too.
 
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AlterEgo said:
Interesting. Could it be the lack of major tourism in Haiti and Iraq? I know Haiti shut airports early, maybe the only ones bringing it in are Haitians coming home from DR?
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Probably, a combination of factors. I would also guess that the fact that Dominicans are much more mobile than Haitians (I know many Haitian from the diaspora who never visit back for fear and kidnapping etc...). Also, the fact that the largest Dominican community overseas is in the most infected spot in the world doesn't help i.e NYC.
But, it is interesting to compare. Jamaica while much smaller has only 3 deaths per million while DR has around 30. Both are touristy, with Jamaican diaspora visiting their island regularly.I think Jamaica closed a little earlier and has more severe lock down in Parish which has more cases.
 
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Costa Rica is one Latin American success story - quick translation of an excerpt from the article in Spanish:

The EBAIS [Comprehensive Basic Health Care Teams] system has been the first line of response to the pandemic in Costa Rica and one of the key factors that have enabled the country to have the lowest case fatality rate for COVID-19 in Latin America, experts say.

Almost two months after the first case was detected in the country, only six patients have died and as of this Wednesday, only 16 people were in hospital out of some 400 active cases.

More than 320 people have recovered from the disease.

"Our best vaccine against COVID-19 is to have a disciplined and educated population and a fairly consolidated health system," Dr. Luis Villalobos, Costa Rica's public health expert, told BBC Mundo.

"We don't spend on an army, but we do spend a lot on health, social security, and education, and that has been very important," adds the also former dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Costa Rica.
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Cuál es la efectiva fórmula contra el coronavirus de Costa Rica, el país de América Latina donde mueren menos pacientes de covid-19 - BBC News Mundo

Casi dos meses después de registrar su primer caso, en Costa Rica solo han fallecido seis pacientes de covid-19. ¿Qué está haciendo bien el país con menor tasa de mortalidad de la región?
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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32 comments on this post and not one questions the curve. No observations on the curve
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windeguy said:
In my NY Times daily email today:

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3. The riddle of virus not-spots

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A reminder of just how little we understand about the coronavirus: It devastates some countries but largely spares their neighbors — Iran, but not Iraq; the Dominican Republic but not Haiti; Indonesia but not Malaysia. The reasons remain murky.

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The most troubling possibility: The virus just hasn’t gotten to the unaffected countries yet. One researcher said that if the pandemic was a baseball game, “it would be the second inning.”

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A team of Times journalists based around the world — Hannah Beech, Alissa Rubin, Anatoly Kurmanaev and Ruth Maclean — has much more detail in their story.
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Those countries may not be properly reporting it.
 
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Chirimoya said:
Costa Rica is one Latin American success story - quick translation of an excerpt from the article in Spanish:



www.bbc.com

Cuál es la efectiva fórmula contra el coronavirus de Costa Rica, el país de América Latina donde mueren menos pacientes de covid-19 - BBC News Mundo

Casi dos meses después de registrar su primer caso, en Costa Rica solo han fallecido seis pacientes de covid-19. ¿Qué está haciendo bien el país con menor tasa de mortalidad de la región?
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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How can there be an ultimate success if there is no herd immunity?
 
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There will only be herd immunity once there is an effective vaccine and mass vaccination.
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Why?
To my understanding of herd immunity it can also be reached if enough people get the virus and get immune to it... Like a kind of the swedish way (where the numbers go also down without killing the hole economy...)
Vaccine could acelerate it but if and when one be available is still not sure....

Intersting also that for example in Germany the Heinsberg study showed a mortality rate of 0.37 % in a town where they had a severe outbreak of Covid-19 do to a caneval party..... No vacccine there, just Starkbier... :cool:
 
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The Catholic Church held a blessing of Santo Domingo from the air to end soon the Covid-19 epidemic. The blessing took place with a priest from Santo Domingo riding an Armed Forces helicopter (aka, owned by the government) over the city. It must be said that the Catholic Church is the official religion of the DR and the Dominican government.

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An excellent use of scarce government resources!;)
 
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