So you're saying a government agency is lying and perjuring themselves about an international bank, even taking into account the international repercussions such a move could entail?
You're way smarter than that CB...
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So you're saying a government agency is lying and perjuring themselves about an international bank, even taking into account the international repercussions such a move could entail?
You're way smarter than that CB...
Lying comes easily when seeking political power.
I don't know if it's lies or not. I just have no faith in gubmint credibility. I believe none of them.
Ivanhoe Ng Corti?as, Bank Superintendent, who came forward with the defense of the First Lady, is not without blemish, having been jailed at the end of Hipolito Mej?a's first administration, for the misuse of over 1400 million pesos. He was sprung from Najayo jail during Leonel Fern?ndez' second term of office in 2004, when his PLD party associate Jos? Manuel Peguero bacame District Attorney.
Lying and not telling the entire truth are not the same thing.
Maybe she doesn't have a direct relationship with the bank. Maybe it's through intermediaries or through companies that she indirectly owns accounts at the bank. Maybe it's not at that sucersale?
But common mate, a bank responding to a question via a facebook account? what did they say?
"Status Update: LOL, OMG, just got shakira tickets. ps - margarita is innocent, ROTFL copter!".
Maybe she doesn't have a direct relationship with the bank. Maybe it's through intermediaries or through companies that she indirectly owns accounts at the bank. Maybe it's not at that sucersale?
But common mate, a bank responding to a question via a facebook account? what did they say?
"Status Update: LOL, OMG, just got shakira tickets. ps - margarita is innocent, ROTFL copter!".
Maybe in your world. If I find you intentionally withheld info from me you KNEW I was after, you're a liar!
Embajador de EE.UU niega filtraran datos de visas a funcionarios - DiarioLibre.com
I guess he is lying too...
I guess he is lying too...
The rule of politics is to believe nothing at all, all else take with extreme doubts and what's left at the end to be totally half truths...
Banks lie when they need to lie in order to protect themselves. They do so everywhere in the world, the more restricted and lawful the country the better they are at hiding it.
I just want to see some mud that sticks for once!
If things are as we believed they are in the DR with corruption and all, why do they need to fabricate stuff when there should be loads to pick from by the shovel...
Now we hear from Marcos about pesos CDs of 3 million for Mama, but what's that supposed to be? I think I can flip my sofa's cojines and spot old CD's worth three times as much without looking too hard...
One million pesos is hardly much to even speak about, let alone in the media.
Dig deeper and give us some stuff with handles to grab our attention!!!!
Banks lie when they need to lie in order to protect themselves. They do so everywhere in the world, the more restricted and lawful the country the better they are at hiding it.
I just want to see some mud that sticks for once!
If things are as we believed they are in the DR with corruption and all, why do they need to fabricate stuff when there should be loads to pick from by the shovel...
Now we hear from Marcos about pesos CDs of 3 million for Mama, but what's that supposed to be? I think I can flip my sofa's cojines and spot old CD's worth three times as much without looking too hard...
One million pesos is hardly much to even speak about, let alone in the media.
Dig deeper and give us some stuff with handles to grab our attention!!!!
Lets see then,by Dominian "standards" you are only a thief if you steal large amounts of money?
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Camo and all! LOL!!!!!
Accuser adds a RD$17.0M check to row with First Lady
Santo Domingo.- The lawyer and TV journalist Marcos Martinez again accused ruling PLD party vice presidential candidate and First lady Margarita Cede?o, this time showing documents that her Office allegedly wrote a RD$17.0 million check to an employee without justification.
Martinez, who faces forgery charges in the two week long row, said if convicted, doesn’t fear going to jail. His original accusation was that the First lady has 67 million euros in a Danish bank.
He told reporters that what newspaper El Caribe published Saturday forms part of a campaign to try to “soften” him and try to incriminate opposition PRD party presidential candidate Hip?lito Mej?a.
In the press conference held in a park in Santiago, dozens of mid lever PRD leaders voiced support for Martinez and against Cede?o, although that organization has denied any personal of political links.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2012/3/8/42914/Accuseradds-a-RD170M-check-to-row-with-First-Lady
Marcos Martinez appointed defense lawyers
LAUNCHES NEW ATTACKS ON THE FIRST LADY
Leoncio Peralta
Santiago
The journalist and lawyer Marcos Martinez announced today that it has a "large amount" of lawyers who will assist HIM in court, led by Francisco Hernandez and Jesus Mendez, citing that it violated the grievance procedure to deposit against the judiciary Santiago.
In another order, he provided the media a document with the names of thirteen officers and employees of the Office of the First Lady, who have received checks which together account for 40 million 668 thousand pesos.
Martinez submitted copies of checks, and cards of the beneficiaries of the alleged delivery of the funds, according to the communicator, they would have been issued without justification.
Among the names that showed Martinez are Licett Gomez, director of events and protocol, with a salary of RD $ 51 000 700, and issued him a check in his favor by one million 700 pesos, Ramon Theophilus Ferrer, financial manager, who earns 31 thousand pesos, to whom he issued several checks in your name for 17 million, Hector Bienvenido Medina, deputy project coordinator, who makes 80 thousand dollars, and figure with additional checks for 6 million 300 thousand pesos.
Joel also Hector Lopez, supervisor of works, who makes 49 thousand dollars, and would have issued checks for three million 900 thousand pesos Miguelina Natalie Almonte, monitoring assistant, who makes 16 thousand dollars, and figure with additional check your salary for two million 200 thousand pesos; Elizabeth Rosario, who makes 15 thousand dollars, and issued checks for three million pesos.
Also shown Balaguer Winston, head of radio stations and networks, with a salary of 33 thousand dollars and issued checks for 738 thousand pesos; Amanda Altagracia de la Cruz, technical sustainability, with a salary of 28 thousand 600 dollars and was given a check for 704 thousand pesos.
Martinez asked the first lady, Margarita Cede?o, that transparent management of funds of the firm he leads.
He said that as a citizen asks Cede?o the country explaining the reason for disburse those funds that are the heritage of the Dominican people and warned that it will continue forward without fear of consequences.
The lawyers submitted Cedeno Martinez on Tuesday who the first lady and vice presidential candidate of the LDP, accused of defamation. Martinez had said the wife of President Leonel Fernandez had a score of millions of euros at a bank in Denmark.
Marcos Mart?nez nombra a sus abogados defensores - listindiario.com
LAUNCHES NEW ATTACKS ON THE FIRST LADY
Leoncio Peralta
Santiago
The journalist and lawyer Marcos Martinez announced today that it has a "large amount" of lawyers who will assist HIM in court, led by Francisco Hernandez and Jesus Mendez, citing that it violated the grievance procedure to deposit against the judiciary Santiago.
In another order, he provided the media a document with the names of thirteen officers and employees of the Office of the First Lady, who have received checks which together account for 40 million 668 thousand pesos.
Martinez submitted copies of checks, and cards of the beneficiaries of the alleged delivery of the funds, according to the communicator, they would have been issued without justification.
Among the names that showed Martinez are Licett Gomez, director of events and protocol, with a salary of RD $ 51 000 700, and issued him a check in his favor by one million 700 pesos, Ramon Theophilus Ferrer, financial manager, who earns 31 thousand pesos, to whom he issued several checks in your name for 17 million, Hector Bienvenido Medina, deputy project coordinator, who makes 80 thousand dollars, and figure with additional checks for 6 million 300 thousand pesos.
Joel also Hector Lopez, supervisor of works, who makes 49 thousand dollars, and would have issued checks for three million 900 thousand pesos Miguelina Natalie Almonte, monitoring assistant, who makes 16 thousand dollars, and figure with additional check your salary for two million 200 thousand pesos; Elizabeth Rosario, who makes 15 thousand dollars, and issued checks for three million pesos.
Also shown Balaguer Winston, head of radio stations and networks, with a salary of 33 thousand dollars and issued checks for 738 thousand pesos; Amanda Altagracia de la Cruz, technical sustainability, with a salary of 28 thousand 600 dollars and was given a check for 704 thousand pesos.
Martinez asked the first lady, Margarita Cede?o, that transparent management of funds of the firm he leads.
He said that as a citizen asks Cede?o the country explaining the reason for disburse those funds that are the heritage of the Dominican people and warned that it will continue forward without fear of consequences.
The lawyers submitted Cedeno Martinez on Tuesday who the first lady and vice presidential candidate of the LDP, accused of defamation. Martinez had said the wife of President Leonel Fernandez had a score of millions of euros at a bank in Denmark.
Marcos Mart?nez nombra a sus abogados defensores - listindiario.com
REACTION
Officials and employees of the Office of the First Lady clarify use of resources
SAID WITH A SIMPLE READING ALL THESE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED WITH INSTITUTIONAL PURPOSES, CAN BE AND HAVE BEEN AUDITED
Santo Domingo
Regarding the request for clarification made by the commentator Marcos Martinez, on a number of expenditures that were made from the Office of the First Lady (DPD) to officers and employees of the institution, representatives of that entity clarified that all DPD information is available at Portal Transparencia - Portal Transparencia transparency which has a rating of 96 points for its information content, as certified by the institutions that monitor and assess these pages.
The DPD officers and employees explained that the information provided by Mr. Martinez does not refer to a lump sum, but outlays for seven years and through management of this institution and that each of these outlays, each check is properly supported with its number, payee, date of issue, concept, as well as invoices and receipts to support the use these resources.
Emphasize that, as shown, a simple reading all these payments have been issued strictly for institutional expenses, counting each audited with due support.
They reported that the Office of the First Lady works around the country and is required to invest resources in a number of activities in remote areas of the country, to cover expenses and operations of 84 Community Technology Centers, 28 training centers for 200,000 families in extreme poverty and Volunteers with 6,000 links that bind to more than 2 million beneficiaries.
As an example the case said Mr. Ramon Ferrer, who has been in charge of 500 pesos monthly pay to the 6,000 volunteers who are in the Family Links Program Progressing for transportation and food, which means only one month more than 3 million pesos.
Another example offered is that of Mr. Hector Medina, Assistant Director of Social Programs, one of whose functions is to organize health care operations, among which are Happy and Smile Happy Mirada, which require expenditure by its quantity and variety must be disaggregated.
They stated that this and all other expenses of the institution are available to any Dominican wishing information as they have done in the seven and a half years that the First Lady has been at the forefront of this institution.
Officials and employees of the DPD reported that that entity is audited annually by the international firm KPMG and the results of these reports can also be found on the website of transparency.
They explained that as employees and officials of the Office of the First Lady are proud to have been internationally certified quality management by ISO 9001 2008 and say they are more than willing to answer any request for information on using resources they have received.
"Each of the officers and employees of the Office of the First Lady are aware when we are experiencing and we feel a duty to make clear that no one tarnish our work, and again invite all citizens to visit our transparency , which was conceived more than the requirements of the Law 200-04, for all citizens to find answers to all your questions and because the Office of the First Lady, under the management of Dr. Margarita Cede?o de Fern?ndez working with open doors. "
Funcionarios y empleados del Despacho de la Primera Dama aclaran uso de recursos de la instituci?n - listindiario.com
AUDITS: http://www.transparenciaprimeradama.gob.do/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=56
Our little PRD friend Marcos keeps sinking...
Officials and employees of the Office of the First Lady clarify use of resources
SAID WITH A SIMPLE READING ALL THESE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED WITH INSTITUTIONAL PURPOSES, CAN BE AND HAVE BEEN AUDITED
Santo Domingo
Regarding the request for clarification made by the commentator Marcos Martinez, on a number of expenditures that were made from the Office of the First Lady (DPD) to officers and employees of the institution, representatives of that entity clarified that all DPD information is available at Portal Transparencia - Portal Transparencia transparency which has a rating of 96 points for its information content, as certified by the institutions that monitor and assess these pages.
The DPD officers and employees explained that the information provided by Mr. Martinez does not refer to a lump sum, but outlays for seven years and through management of this institution and that each of these outlays, each check is properly supported with its number, payee, date of issue, concept, as well as invoices and receipts to support the use these resources.
Emphasize that, as shown, a simple reading all these payments have been issued strictly for institutional expenses, counting each audited with due support.
They reported that the Office of the First Lady works around the country and is required to invest resources in a number of activities in remote areas of the country, to cover expenses and operations of 84 Community Technology Centers, 28 training centers for 200,000 families in extreme poverty and Volunteers with 6,000 links that bind to more than 2 million beneficiaries.
As an example the case said Mr. Ramon Ferrer, who has been in charge of 500 pesos monthly pay to the 6,000 volunteers who are in the Family Links Program Progressing for transportation and food, which means only one month more than 3 million pesos.
Another example offered is that of Mr. Hector Medina, Assistant Director of Social Programs, one of whose functions is to organize health care operations, among which are Happy and Smile Happy Mirada, which require expenditure by its quantity and variety must be disaggregated.
They stated that this and all other expenses of the institution are available to any Dominican wishing information as they have done in the seven and a half years that the First Lady has been at the forefront of this institution.
Officials and employees of the DPD reported that that entity is audited annually by the international firm KPMG and the results of these reports can also be found on the website of transparency.
They explained that as employees and officials of the Office of the First Lady are proud to have been internationally certified quality management by ISO 9001 2008 and say they are more than willing to answer any request for information on using resources they have received.
"Each of the officers and employees of the Office of the First Lady are aware when we are experiencing and we feel a duty to make clear that no one tarnish our work, and again invite all citizens to visit our transparency , which was conceived more than the requirements of the Law 200-04, for all citizens to find answers to all your questions and because the Office of the First Lady, under the management of Dr. Margarita Cede?o de Fern?ndez working with open doors. "
Funcionarios y empleados del Despacho de la Primera Dama aclaran uso de recursos de la instituci?n - listindiario.com
AUDITS: http://www.transparenciaprimeradama.gob.do/index.php?option=com_rokdownloads&view=folder&Itemid=56
Our little PRD friend Marcos keeps sinking...
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I hope the first lady goes all the way in prosecuting this barbarazo and sets the standars so that the next time our so called journalists and TV commentators come out with vague accusations, they better have legal documents and base to make it stand in court!
Fulanito is stealing from the public funds! Prove it in court! Then lets send them to jail!
Fulanito is stealing from the public funds! Can't prove it court? Then let's send you to jail for libel and defamation!
Time to clean this free for all mud parties...
Fulanito is stealing from the public funds! Prove it in court! Then lets send them to jail!
Fulanito is stealing from the public funds! Can't prove it court? Then let's send you to jail for libel and defamation!
Time to clean this free for all mud parties...
What this country needs is 10 or more Marcos Martinez, to help keep on their toes these lying and theiving government officials!
Yes, if they were actual investigative reporters...etc instead of PRD operatives.