Haitian Citizenship from Birth

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The Permanent Council of the Organization of American States (OAS) yesterday considered, at the request of the Permanent Mission of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, the decision of the Constitutional Court of the Dominican Republic on September 23, on the legal status of immigrants and their descendants in the country, during a regular meeting at the OAS headquarters in Washington, DC.

The Permanent Representative of Haiti to the OAS, Duly Brutus, said his country has expressed its deepest concerns about the negative consequences of the decision of the Dominican Constitutional Court, which particularly affects his country, with a large colony of immigrants in the Dominican Republic. The Haitian diplomat described as "truly alarming" the possibility that, as a result of the ruling, many citizens who were Dominicans before the Court?s sentence, could find themselves, from one day to the next, stateless. Ambassador Brutus called on member sates to seek a solution to the problem and said "the Organization of American States has been at the forefront when it comes to defending the interests of the voiceless.?

During the discussion of the case, Haiti had the express support of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM), whose spokesperson was the Permanent Representative of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, La Celia Prince. Ambassador Prince, who had requested the inclusion of the item on the agenda, said that "this issue, a domestic issue, is of interest to us in that it directly impacts the lives of fellow human beings, citizens of our Hemisphere and more specifically members of our diaspora." The decision of the Tribunal, said the Ambassador, "strips tens of thousands of people of rights which they have enjoyed from birth and gives them no recourse to appeal." Moreover, the Caribbean representative argued that the Court's decision violated the Constitution of the Dominican Republic, and invoked the relevance of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Convention on the Rights of Children.

For his part, the legal adviser to the Executive of the Dominican Republic, Ram?n Pina Toribio, said ?our government always advocated and has developed relationships of profound respect and brotherhood with other nations, and especially with the Republic of Haiti." "We want to emphasize that the Dominican government will not allow the violation of the fundamental rights of people that are protected by our laws as a result of this judgment or any other," he said. He added that "to ensure this is so, an effective protection of these rights will be carried out, so that due process is respected at all times. Also, to achieve the best results, we are completely open to receive the support of countries and international organizations that decide to help us in this task."

Pina Toribio recalled that the Constitutional Court's judgments are, in the Dominican Republic "irrevocable and final. They constitute binding precedents for the government and all organs of the State." Pina explained that in 2005, the Supreme Court had already determined that "the children of those who can not justify their legal entry or stay in the country can not benefit from this right." The Constitutional Court now agrees, continued the Dominican representative, with the interpretation of the article of the Constitution which states that "Dominican nationality is acquired, among other ways, by birth in the territory of the Dominican Republic, with the exception of the children of foreigners residing in the country, diplomatic representation, or those in transit."

The Secretary General of the OAS, Jos? Miguel Insulza, explained that the Organization, through its Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) issued a statement on the Court's decision and recalled that the IACHR will soon visit the Dominican Republic to learn about the case on site. The OAS leader highlighted the "full disposition of the Dominican authority" to receive the Commission, and informed the Permanent Council about the conversations he held on the matter with the Foreign Minister of Haiti, the President of the Dominican Republic and the Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, among others.

The leader of the hemispheric Organization explained that two issues converge in the case. "No one can be deprived of their nationality, and therefore there is a human rights problem. But we also have an institutional problem. The Organization of American States is governed by the Inter-American Democratic Charter, which among other things, institutionalizes the rule of law and respect for the independence of the branches of government. And in this case there is no doubt that this is a statement that has been issued by a constitutional court of a state under its own domestic law. I think this is best dealt with through the human rights system, and that this issue is properly the responsibility of the Commission and the Court."

"We will continue to work on this issue with the Inter-American Commission in consultation with the Council doing everything possible, without any actions that would mean a break in dialogue," said the Secretary General, "because we have to find a solution with the maximum degree of agreement, the maximum degree of openness and the maximum degree of goodwill. That has been and remains the conduct of this Organization," said the OAS leader.

See also :
Haiti - Politic : The Dominican Republic will have to explain before the OAS - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Reaction of MHAVE to the Dominican decision... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Reaction of MHAVE to the Dominican decision... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : The Dominican Government accepts the decision of the Constitutional Court - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Towards a Dominican diplomatic cons-offensive ? - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : The Consul General of New York commends the efforts of the Haitian diplomacy - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : CARICOM deeply concerned - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Chancellor Casimir met his counterpart from Guyana - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Trinidad and Tobago, with Haiti - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - News : Some news here and there... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Dominican President Danilo Medina open to dialogue... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Diplomacy : Official Position of Haiti on the Dominican decision - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Social : Creation of a Bilateral Senate Committee - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
haiti - Social : Protest letter of the Civil Society for Dominican Ambassador - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Diplomacy : Loss of Dominican nationality, Haiti expresses its disagreement... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - News : Some news here and there... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Social : A resolution with heavy consequences... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice

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Gabriela

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As my wise German-born grandmother would say about diplomatic utterances she endured as the wife of a Israeli/German consul: blah, blah, blah, blah. Who controls the OAS these days? Surely there are other organizations who understand the fascist nature of the DR court's ruling. Organizations not controlled by the G20. Ensuring that Dominican-born Haitians are allowed to reclaim their Haitian citizenship is a sick joke.
 

centinela

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When in the USA or in any other country where they reside, all over the world Dominicans are asked what are their back ground or nationality, Dominicans never never say I am North American, or English or Puerto Rican, or Spanish, Dominicans always say they are Dominican the US citizen!!!!!
Why can the Haitian people do the same, say I?m Haitian, Dominican resident?



Someone wrote Mountainannie can help. No she can't she is part of the problem. Right now she and her peeps in the Robert Kenedy Foundation and USAID and all these other alphabet soup NGO's are making waves internationally to smear and trash DR concerning this issue.
She harps about how DR is a sovereign country but she speaks with a forked tongue kemosabe.
All Haitians know they have Haitian citizenship from birth, all of them. They just don't want it. I know this Haitian dude whose dad is Dominican, mom is Haitian. He was born in NYC, he said to me and some others "I might as well burn my Dominican passport cause they don't want me to be a citizen"
I asked him-"so are you gonna use your Haitian Passport?"
He looked at me like I was crazy.
He say's "Haitian passport? Nobody wants that, I'll use my USA one"...
Conho....
 

centinela

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They can help the Haitians by taking few hundreds thousands. Let’s see if they take them.


The Permanent Council of the Organization of American States (OAS) yesterday considered, at the request of the Permanent Mission of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, the decision of the Constitutional Court of the Dominican Republic on September 23, on the legal status of immigrants and their descendants in the country, during a regular meeting at the OAS headquarters in Washington, DC.

The Permanent Representative of Haiti to the OAS, Duly Brutus, said his country has expressed its deepest concerns about the negative consequences of the decision of the Dominican Constitutional Court, which particularly affects his country, with a large colony of immigrants in the Dominican Republic. The Haitian diplomat described as "truly alarming" the possibility that, as a result of the ruling, many citizens who were Dominicans before the Court’s sentence, could find themselves, from one day to the next, stateless. Ambassador Brutus called on member sates to seek a solution to the problem and said "the Organization of American States has been at the forefront when it comes to defending the interests of the voiceless.”

During the discussion of the case, Haiti had the express support of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM), whose spokesperson was the Permanent Representative of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, La Celia Prince. Ambassador Prince, who had requested the inclusion of the item on the agenda, said that "this issue, a domestic issue, is of interest to us in that it directly impacts the lives of fellow human beings, citizens of our Hemisphere and more specifically members of our diaspora." The decision of the Tribunal, said the Ambassador, "strips tens of thousands of people of rights which they have enjoyed from birth and gives them no recourse to appeal." Moreover, the Caribbean representative argued that the Court's decision violated the Constitution of the Dominican Republic, and invoked the relevance of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Convention on the Rights of Children.

For his part, the legal adviser to the Executive of the Dominican Republic, Ram?n Pina Toribio, said “our government always advocated and has developed relationships of profound respect and brotherhood with other nations, and especially with the Republic of Haiti." "We want to emphasize that the Dominican government will not allow the violation of the fundamental rights of people that are protected by our laws as a result of this judgment or any other," he said. He added that "to ensure this is so, an effective protection of these rights will be carried out, so that due process is respected at all times. Also, to achieve the best results, we are completely open to receive the support of countries and international organizations that decide to help us in this task."

Pina Toribio recalled that the Constitutional Court's judgments are, in the Dominican Republic "irrevocable and final. They constitute binding precedents for the government and all organs of the State." Pina explained that in 2005, the Supreme Court had already determined that "the children of those who can not justify their legal entry or stay in the country can not benefit from this right." The Constitutional Court now agrees, continued the Dominican representative, with the interpretation of the article of the Constitution which states that "Dominican nationality is acquired, among other ways, by birth in the territory of the Dominican Republic, with the exception of the children of foreigners residing in the country, diplomatic representation, or those in transit."

The Secretary General of the OAS, Jos? Miguel Insulza, explained that the Organization, through its Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) issued a statement on the Court's decision and recalled that the IACHR will soon visit the Dominican Republic to learn about the case on site. The OAS leader highlighted the "full disposition of the Dominican authority" to receive the Commission, and informed the Permanent Council about the conversations he held on the matter with the Foreign Minister of Haiti, the President of the Dominican Republic and the Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, among others.

The leader of the hemispheric Organization explained that two issues converge in the case. "No one can be deprived of their nationality, and therefore there is a human rights problem. But we also have an institutional problem. The Organization of American States is governed by the Inter-American Democratic Charter, which among other things, institutionalizes the rule of law and respect for the independence of the branches of government. And in this case there is no doubt that this is a statement that has been issued by a constitutional court of a state under its own domestic law. I think this is best dealt with through the human rights system, and that this issue is properly the responsibility of the Commission and the Court."

"We will continue to work on this issue with the Inter-American Commission in consultation with the Council doing everything possible, without any actions that would mean a break in dialogue," said the Secretary General, "because we have to find a solution with the maximum degree of agreement, the maximum degree of openness and the maximum degree of goodwill. That has been and remains the conduct of this Organization," said the OAS leader.

See also :
Haiti - Politic : The Dominican Republic will have to explain before the OAS - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Reaction of MHAVE to the Dominican decision... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Reaction of MHAVE to the Dominican decision... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : The Dominican Government accepts the decision of the Constitutional Court - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Towards a Dominican diplomatic cons-offensive ? - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : The Consul General of New York commends the efforts of the Haitian diplomacy - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : CARICOM deeply concerned - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Chancellor Casimir met his counterpart from Guyana - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Trinidad and Tobago, with Haiti - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - News : Some news here and there... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Denationalization : Dominican President Danilo Medina open to dialogue... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Diplomacy : Official Position of Haiti on the Dominican decision - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Social : Creation of a Bilateral Senate Committee - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
haiti - Social : Protest letter of the Civil Society for Dominican Ambassador - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Diplomacy : Loss of Dominican nationality, Haiti expresses its disagreement... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - News : Some news here and there... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice
Haiti - Social : A resolution with heavy consequences... - HaitiLibre.com, Haiti News, The haitian people's voice

HL/ HaitiLibre