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I have taken a break from coffee and experiencing some withdrawals with irritability. I am just drinking tea now and on a diet.
Actually, I'm thinking more like sell it to the visitor in advance
Person plans a 3 month trip.... 30 days comes w/ the tourist card
Traveler goes on line and buys a 90 day visa..... submits passport ID and pays
On arrival, passport scan shows 90 days and it gets stamped in the passport.
Big penalty - BIG - for overstay....such penalty clearly warned on sale of 90 day card
I'm expecting a call from Abinader soon - giving a high ranking job in Migracion
Oh, that's what they were talking about! I went through that particular horrendous process, standing in line in the baking sun crammed together with hundreds of Haitians waiting to submit documents. And after all that I found it didn't even entitle me to apply for a Dominican driving licence, which was one of the most important aspects of getting legal for me. So then I started the even more horrendous process (minus standing in the baking sun) of getting Residency. My Haitian gardener went through all the hassle and expense of applying for Regularization and still hasn't got it to this day. Sometimes, trying to "get legal" hardly seems worth it.
In my personal experience, that will not work! I had a one year visa physically inserted into my passport, but due to a death in the family, had to leave after 35 days. The Migración officials at the airport demanded that I pay the overstay fee even though my visa was still good for 330 more days. There is a mindset - over 30 days, collect money. It appeared that they were unable to see a difference between a 30 day tourist card and a one year visa.
Stories and experiences like this one are why I don't try. I don't have patience with stupidity. Again, if they want to throw me and my $ out, go ahead.
Hi Prof... hope you're well
Yes - it would call for a revamping of the system
In my Utopia, there are no overstay fees.... you are paid on entry
Overstaying your chosen allotted time would call for the overstay penalty
All recorded in your passport
and that penalty would be posted in advance - as harsh as they choose to administer
the regularization plan/process(I am also guilty for using the wrong term "naturalization, lol) never been meant to be easy or really hassle free,
it was the last offered backdoor for long term(some for DECADES long) overstayers to get legal in the country where they spent such a very long time of their life.
and disagreed, as iknow otherwise from 3 buddies of mine going through the process, they got their DR Drivers License, too.
first the temp residency, which i agree, was a lengthy and many times long lines standing ïn baking sun" process,
but at the end (a couple years later!) they got their temp residency card in hand and applied for the drivers license.
during the long waiting time they had a paper in their passpport which showed that they are legal residents at that moment, in process to get their residency card.
the driver's license then been applied for once they had the first temp residency card in hand.
because the regularization plan was for the government a "cheaper"/easier way to go than to just limit the haitian presence in the country by a which hunt on only one nationality, which anyways would have started a intl uproar against the DR for beeing so violent against the poor neighbour on the same Isle.
and the DR had at that time already such a huge number of haitians/of haitian decent people in the country, some already on the next generation and all undocumented, no DR Documents and no Haitian documents, either, they had intl pressure to find some kinda solution to get the workers from the last decades AND their illegally and indocumented in the DR born siblings documented.
it was less a in general Immigrations thingy, it was more a long overdue solution for the hundreds of thousands of haitian decent workers in the DR and their families.
where the DR, in my eyes, completely failed, is the follow up/keep it strict from there on.
what was the regularization process worth when since then still the same amounts of illegal immigrants come into the DR the same easy and under the exactly same circumstances, as they did before???
to find a "easy" solutions for the ones already here, absolutely fine with me, it was necessary, but at the same moment you have to have your regulations and handling of the situation in place, to NOT continue with the same flow.
otherwise they need to run a regularization plan every 10 years again and again, just that next time only half of the affected people will use it, because everybody will say that nothing will change anyways, so why bother with any hassles?
When the "Regularization Plan" was put in place, it was stated at the time that it would be the one and only chance for illegal aliens to have an amnesty period and become legal more easily if they took the initiative. I have no idea how many illegals it "regularized".
I also have no idea how easy or hard the next government under the PRM will make becoming a legal resident, if they will offer a snowbird visa which would be great, or other details. The PRM wrote the current immigration laws in 2004 and the new minister of the MIP starting tomorrow has stated what we don't need any new laws, just to enforce the old ones. All we can do is wait. They take over tomorrow and have quite a few plans to change various parts of the government. It will be interesting after 16 years of the PLD.
I also have no idea how easy or hard the next government under the PRM will make becoming a legal resident, if they will offer a snowbird visa which would be great, or other details. The PRM wrote the current immigration laws in 2004 and the new minister of the MIP starting tomorrow has stated what we don't need any new laws, just to enforce the old ones. All we can do is wait. They take over tomorrow and have quite a few plans to change various parts of the government. It will be interesting after 16 years of the PLD.
I am hoping the new governments starts lopping heads of those it can readily see were dipping their fingers metaphorically in the company ink, or those so incompetent they kept getting promoted.
Find out who can make the countries utilities efficient and responsible for delivery of what they are being paid for and make maintenance and repairs a priority.
Reward contractors that get things done, like whoever paved the road from Susua to Cabarete in a fraction of the time that the several different companies took from Montellano to Sosua and did a crappier job to boot.
Time to reward politicians that actually try to make real improvements to DR and not just to their personal wealth.
Find out who can make the countries utilities efficient and responsible for delivery of what they are being paid for and make maintenance and repairs a priority.
Reward contractors that get things done, like whoever paved the road from Susua to Cabarete in a fraction of the time that the several different companies took from Montellano to Sosua and did a crappier job to boot.
Time to reward politicians that actually try to make real improvements to DR and not just to their personal wealth.
I think the earliest I heard of anyone getting a residency card from the PNRE was about a year and a half later, so you would have had a long wait to apply for the drivers license, bur residency is a requirement for the drivers license. The plan only "regularized" your legal status in the country.
Make it simple, set up concentration camps.
More like a toll booth. to pass through, you need to get swabbed and have your details recorded. If the test comes back positive, public health gives you instructions to isolate or present yourself to a particular clinic for treatment and monitoring. Either way, those who are infectious carriers need to be corralled for the benefit of those who are not infected so they can go about their business without harming others. Your liberty ends at the point where your germs are cast in my direction and enter my system making me sick.