PRSC says others should take about half the Haitians into their countries

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That would be a start, but is as likely as the UN doing anything useful:

 
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I vote for France and Canada taking them all. Leave my homeland out of this

As reported by El Dia newspaper, the president of the PRSC, Federico Antún Batlle (Quique), warned those great powers, including France, Canada, and the United States, that the Dominican Republic can no longer bear more Haitian migration, “and therefore, that proposal from international organizations is flatly rejected by Dominican society.”

“Right now it is estimated that there are more than two million Haitians living in our territory, the vast majority of them irregularly, so we cannot admit a single Haitian more,” he added.
 

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I suggested before. Pay Some African countries good money to receive them and help them. Benin, Camerún, Congo, Gabon, Ivory Coast etc. All French speaking countries.
 
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Even better, send all Haitis to Africa then let DR takeover and become one country island.
No need for that. The biggest issue facing Haiti and that retards very much whatever attempts of progress it makes is the overpopulation. The most ideal part if for wealthy countries to take in say half the Haitian population (not half to one country.) Then see the remittances grow and how it impacts Haiti. How this remittance is used (much of it will be consumption which is great for Haitian products -current ones and new ones to be created- with everything that means regarding things such as industrial jobs particularly in Port-au-Prince, but wome will also be used for investments/creating new Haitian companies/products) can help in further developing Haiti.

The elimination of Haiti as a country isn’t desirable for lots of reasons including the Haitian people themselves. Despite everything, you will find that Haitians are proud of their country and particularly its history even if they don’t like the current situation. This too, as hard as it may be to inagibe for some, is only temporary and eventually will pass. The hope is that it happens ASAP.

What Haiti needs is stability. The trouble makers are a small group of people to be dealt with, they aren’t most Haitians or even represent most. Haiti is a place of good people that has been hijacked by a small group of wackos that needs to be put in their place.

Every time I see the likes of Barbecue, all I can think of “what a ridiculous guy.” I definitely don’t like him and the others similar to him one bit.
 

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NALs, for once you greatly oversimplified the situation there and implied there is a solution where there isn't.
 

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NALs, for once you greatly oversimplified the situation there and implied there is a solution where there isn't.
There is a solution to every problem. What they all don’t have is the same simple solution. Some are very complicated and this is one of them, but the heads lesding the chaos all need to go and the new ones that rise up in their place need to go too asap and repeat it as often as is necessary. Even the most hardheaded of types will get the message that this will not be tolerated.
 

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There is a solution to every problem. What they all don’t have is the same simple solution. Some are very complicated and this is one of them, but the heads lesding the chaos all need to go and the new ones that rise up in their place need to go too asap and repeat it as often as is necessary. Even the most hardheaded of types will get the message that this will not be tolerated.
No. Not true. There are some problems that have no solution.

You obviously don't understand this like some others that think Haiti has some fix possible.

Haiti is one of those problems with no solution. Eventually things will change there, but the issues that exist today won't be solved.
 

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No. Not true. There are some problems that have no solution.

You obviously don't understand this like some others that think Haiti has some fix possible.

Haiti is one of those problems with no solution. Eventually things will change there, but the issues that exist today won't be solved.
Haiti spent a long time several times in its history with political and social stability. It can be acheived again. What was not done in those times of stability that should had been done was put in place the bases for developing and expanding the local manufacturing, free trade zones, commerce, tourism, mining, etc. Including recuperating the forest cover and creating new nature preserves/national parks of areaz still prestine and regenerated in other areas currently affected. Those times of stability from an economic point of view were wasted. This time do what it takes to achieve stability again and don’t waste time.

Find what works (forget ideologies except what works for this place given its history, culture and idiosincracies; if it’s a mixture of things not eeen anywhere else in the world, then so be it as long that it works.) The goal should be making a place livable and the most confortable possible with the most freedom possible for the most amount of people and keep going at it until that is achieved. The naysayers can fall on deaf ears.
 
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Haiti spent a long time several times in its history with political and social stability. It can be acheived again. What was not done in those times of stability that should had been done was put in place the bases for developing and expanding the local manufacturing, free trade zones, commerce, tourism, mining, etc. Including recuperating the forest cover and creating new nature preserves/national parks of areaz still prestine and regenerated in other areas currently affected. Those times of stability from an economic point of view were wasted. This time do what it takes to achieve stability again and don’t waste time.

Find what works (forget ideologies except what works for this place given its history, culture and idiosincracies; if it’s a mixture of things not eeen anywhere else in the world, then so be it as long that it works.) The goal should be making a place livable and the most confortable possible with the most freedom possible for the most amount of people and keep going at it until that is achieved. The naysayers can fall on deaf ears.
It can be achieved again in your dreams. Not in the reality of today.
 

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It can be achieved again in your dreams. Not in the reality of today.
Nothing was done and now is real didn’t first start as an idea.

Singapore was even poorer than Haiti in the 1960’s. Imagine someone saying then it will soon be one of the richest places on earth. Same (though with a different process) with Dubai. Japan right after the war with, among other places, a destroyed Hiroshima; someone standing with all the rubble saying this will be a nice place to live. Imagine China, which when I was a kid it was common to see on TV Chinese cities full of bicycles and not a single car, and someone saying soon there will be lots of traffic jams.
 

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Nothing was done and now is real didn’t first start as an idea.

Singapore was even poorer than Haiti in the 1960’s. Imagine someone saying then it will soon be one of the richest places on earth. Same (though with a different process) with Dubai. Japan right after the war with, among other places, a destroyed Hiroshima; someone standing with all the rubble saying this will be a nice place to live. Imagine China, which when I was a kid it was common to see on TV Chinese cities full of bicycles, and someone saying soon there will be lots of traffic jams.
The "it happened elsewhere" approach does not apply to Haiti.

Nothing was done and now is real didn’t first start as an idea.
What the hell does that mean?
 

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What the hell does that mean?
Everything made by man starts as an intangible idea, not before. Example, you decided to move to the DR. That first was an idea that only existed in your mind.
 

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Everything made by man starts as an intangible idea, not before. Example, you decided to move to the DR. That first was an idea that only existed in your mind.
Some things have no hope to be fixed.

Haiti is one of those things.

The best that can be done is to keep Haiti from damaging the DR. Let us work on that tangible idea, shall we?