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The Cardinal is at it again
According to Listin Diario, the government is now apologizing to Mr. Salomón.
Chiri, a few days ago, the Cardinal talked about how much the church has grown since he became el mero-mero. Then I started wondering if there are born-again Catholics. Seriously.
Could he be a closet case?
Why is the Cardinal so anti-gays? what causes him to be so sensitive about the issue of gays or gay-related questions?...hmmm, this is very puzzling.
And who or what gives him the authority to circumvent the law of freedom of expression?...Freedom of the press?
Is one direct question to him, however crude or out of place, (Not disrespectful) merits causing the firing of a reporter with eight years' experience to his credit? Eh?
What's up with this man's cozy association with the military? Only Muslim mullahs have a closer affiliation with the military! Does he imagine/consider himself to be Ayatollah-like? And why does the military regards him as if he were one?
And what's with this honorary or very real designation as a Major General of the armed forces? Is this for real? If it is, what ever happened to "separation of church and state"????.......This all very bewildering! It ....does not make sense! Aaarrghhh!
Help! my mind is going, H.A.L. !!
Why is the Cardinal so anti-gays? what causes him to be so sensitive about the issue of gays or gay-related questions?...hmmm, this is very puzzling.
And who or what gives him the authority to circumvent the law of freedom of expression?...Freedom of the press?
Is one direct question to him, however crude or out of place, (Not disrespectful) merits causing the firing of a reporter with eight years' experience to his credit? Eh?
What's up with this man's cozy association with the military? Only Muslim mullahs have a closer affiliation with the military! Does he imagine/consider himself to be Ayatollah-like? And why does the military regards him as if he were one?
And what's with this honorary or very real designation as a Major General of the armed forces? Is this for real? If it is, what ever happened to "separation of church and state"????.......This all very bewildering! It ....does not make sense! Aaarrghhh!
Help! my mind is going, H.A.L. !!Everyone has rights. Gay or not.
The Bible, the Koran, the Torah et al, are all books that condemn ALL that does not conform to a moralist idea of morality. If you were to live your life "by the book", even sex with your wife or husband, for a purpose other than procreation, can be a sin.
My morality prohibits me from judging, harming or condemning anyone based on race or sexual preference. I will condemn, however, the evangelicals, catholics and others that live the hypocritical, two-faced, phony, deceitful, insincere existence.
I've seen way too many televangelists expound righteousness and eventually be found doing exactly what they've denounced.
I've read too many stories about catholic priests engaging in homosexuality and pedophilia.
I think it's time to keep our morality to ourselves.... In essence: Live and let live.....Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone. John: 8/7
The Bible, the Koran, the Torah et al, are all books that condemn ALL that does not conform to a moralist idea of morality. If you were to live your life "by the book", even sex with your wife or husband, for a purpose other than procreation, can be a sin.
My morality prohibits me from judging, harming or condemning anyone based on race or sexual preference. I will condemn, however, the evangelicals, catholics and others that live the hypocritical, two-faced, phony, deceitful, insincere existence.
I've seen way too many televangelists expound righteousness and eventually be found doing exactly what they've denounced.
I've read too many stories about catholic priests engaging in homosexuality and pedophilia.
I think it's time to keep our morality to ourselves.... In essence: Live and let live.....Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone. John: 8/7
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I am not a religious person at least for the last 25 years or so but as far as I know in the new testament there is not one passage or teaching by Jesus Christ that deals with homosexuality, not one. The above stuff is really scary.
Well score one for the DR free press against the Dark Age. The days of the Inquisition are long gone. Now General Aquino is saying he was ill advised by someone.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=20280
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=20280
Was Jesus a liberal?
Rumor has it that El Cardinal is not so popular amongst his own flock and peers! And not all catholics are so bad....... I for one do not lose sleep over what people do in their bedrooms. If God really had an issue with sexuality, why did he give us the gadgets? Just keep the priests away from the alter boys
Rumor has it that El Cardinal is not so popular amongst his own flock and peers! And not all catholics are so bad....... I for one do not lose sleep over what people do in their bedrooms. If God really had an issue with sexuality, why did he give us the gadgets? Just keep the priests away from the alter boys
More follow up info on the congressional delegation from the US.
As usual Dominican Today leaves much to be desired with their reporting , but you get the idea.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=20349
As usual Dominican Today leaves much to be desired with their reporting , but you get the idea.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=20349
The article from Dominican Today about the case about the 2 girls born in the DR whose parents are Haitian.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=5659
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=5659
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This time I will throw up my hands, rather than even begin to address the countless times posters imply or explicitly state that priests are pedophiles, that an inordinate number of priests are gay, or that the Cardinal is both.
I will refrain from any long posts pointing out that, for many Catholics, Cardinals occupy of place of honor. For many Catholics, the reverence they give this position inspires a certain amount of charity directed towards its occupant.
The Americanization (Lutherization?) of the world frowns on all heirarchies, I know, and is eager to cut down anything that hints of authority.
Sexual accusations are the easiest way to defame, I guess.
What can I do?
Last time I posted in response to this, admittedly in anger and with a few strong words, someone blamed me for closing the thread, just before it *was* closed, and someone else looked up my profession, in order to tell me I'm no good at it.
I will refrain from any long posts pointing out that, for many Catholics, Cardinals occupy of place of honor. For many Catholics, the reverence they give this position inspires a certain amount of charity directed towards its occupant.
The Americanization (Lutherization?) of the world frowns on all heirarchies, I know, and is eager to cut down anything that hints of authority.
Sexual accusations are the easiest way to defame, I guess.
What can I do?
Last time I posted in response to this, admittedly in anger and with a few strong words, someone blamed me for closing the thread, just before it *was* closed, and someone else looked up my profession, in order to tell me I'm no good at it.
Maybe we would be more reverent if he was more tolerant.
PS I didn't 'look up' your profession - I was already aware of it without looking, seeing as we'd interacted in previous, less contentious threads, in which you mentioned you were a teacher. I have no idea what kind of teacher you are, but I restate that I prefer my children's teachers not to be homophobic, which going by your comments in the closed thread, appears to be the case.
PS I didn't 'look up' your profession - I was already aware of it without looking, seeing as we'd interacted in previous, less contentious threads, in which you mentioned you were a teacher. I have no idea what kind of teacher you are, but I restate that I prefer my children's teachers not to be homophobic, which going by your comments in the closed thread, appears to be the case.
Well said Chiri
I wonder how we are supposed to have a just society when opinion leaders (clergymen/women et al) are pushing phobias and stereotypes down our throats.I guess we are all inherently biased, but wouldn't it be nice if we left those biases at home? One can only hope.
The apology to the journalist is a positive gesture. Once we start gagging freedom of expression, then we may as well fast-forward to the dark ages.
Fightingirish, I doubt if all people think that all priests are pedophiles. They are part of society and like any one of us, will bear the strengths and weaknesses of being human. However, when a faith whether catholic or not takes a "holier than thou" moral stance, they will be judged against that very morality bar.
Cardinals, priests like any other leader will be respected if they earn it!
I wonder how we are supposed to have a just society when opinion leaders (clergymen/women et al) are pushing phobias and stereotypes down our throats.I guess we are all inherently biased, but wouldn't it be nice if we left those biases at home? One can only hope.
The apology to the journalist is a positive gesture. Once we start gagging freedom of expression, then we may as well fast-forward to the dark ages.
Fightingirish, I doubt if all people think that all priests are pedophiles. They are part of society and like any one of us, will bear the strengths and weaknesses of being human. However, when a faith whether catholic or not takes a "holier than thou" moral stance, they will be judged against that very morality bar.
Cardinals, priests like any other leader will be respected if they earn it!
I hope your kids' teachers are wonderful teachers. And I hope your profession (whatever it is) is something that fulfills you. That having been said, let's leave ALL of that out of the thread!
What makes me curious is that it be "homophobia" that jumps out at you from my posts. There were other posters calling people "fags", while I just wanted to make the point (and make it strongly) that people like the Cardinal, and probably 80% of the Dominicans with whom I interact, look at homosexuality VERY differently than do American liberals -- whose standards of what is "natural" were being used to critique the Cardinal.
My point was/is that it is a big world, with wildly different worldviews. Catholic, with a small c.
What makes me curious is that it be "homophobia" that jumps out at you from my posts. There were other posters calling people "fags", while I just wanted to make the point (and make it strongly) that people like the Cardinal, and probably 80% of the Dominicans with whom I interact, look at homosexuality VERY differently than do American liberals -- whose standards of what is "natural" were being used to critique the Cardinal.
My point was/is that it is a big world, with wildly different worldviews. Catholic, with a small c.
Maybe we would be more reverent if he was more tolerant.
PS I didn't 'look up' your profession - I was already aware of it without looking, seeing as we'd interacted in previous, less contentious threads, in which you mentioned you were a teacher. I have no idea what kind of teacher you are, but I restate that I prefer my children's teachers not to be homophobic, which going by your comments in the closed thread, appears to be the case.