I have no doubt about that.
I'm sure he's in Google right now looking for more quotes or info he can use
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Wyclef Jean running for President in Haiti ?
I have no doubt about that.
I'm sure he's in Google right now looking for more quotes or info he can use
you can rant here also if you are looking for something to do, is called internet amusing yourself
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With 100% of your 143 posts solely about Haiti, you obviously don't have ANYTHING to say about the Dominican Republic. Will you have any input on matters concerning this country when the election is over?
Or, is your total mindset on Clef........
Or, is your total mindset on Clef........
So why did you ask the question?
As for the "what I do for Haiti that's between me and Haiti" response.
I'll take that as a cop out. I expected nothing less, so you didn't disappoint
Actually the argument isn't so much about Wyclef, it's about change.
He is offering change, which is 6 more letters than you have offered.
Unfortunately Haiti is a "disaster". It was like that before the earthquake and remains that way today. It's the midset that people like yourself peddle that has gotten it to that place and kept it their. Be proud, you have done a great job!
I understand your agenda, changing the status quo would "potentially" be a disaster for you. People fear change, the current political elite, cronies, parasites in Haiti.
Wyclef having a say would be crazy right? He has no political background, language issues etc etc.
Then again...
Doing what you have always done and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. I take it you're part of the insanity camp?
At least Wyclef has woken a few people up and put Haiti back in the spotlight, which is more than can be said for some others that sit at their keyboards spewing BS 1,000s of miles away.
Next....
Wake up
It's a shame you choose to represent yourself in the manner that you do, this thread was about Wyclef, but you have turned it into a (it's all about me ....and I'm right and your wrong thread)....your very close minded and only have 1 view...(yours).....sometimes I think you do it on purpose...other times....your just being thick headed.....and other times deceitful....(trying to draw people in).......again what a shame, going through life an angry human being....(notice I did not say Haitian)..........you do not warrant the respect.....(long gone)......and the attention you were given on DR1.........
It's a shame you choose to represent yourself in the manner that you do, this thread was about Wyclef, but you have turned it into a (it's all about me ....and I'm right and your wrong thread)....your very close minded and only have 1 view...(yours).....sometimes I think you do it on purpose...other times....your just being thick headed.....and other times deceitful....(trying to draw people in).......again what a shame, going through life an angry human being....(notice I did not say Haitian)..........you do not warrant the respect.....(long gone)......and the attention you were given on DR1.........
Self destruction has just occurred, and likely to the liking of many posters, Have a great vacation
Self destruction has just occurred, and likely to the liking of many posters, Have a great vacation
Hollywood, waytogo man.....
Hlywud, Now that we see the power that you wield.......
HOW ABOUT SOME NEW GAMES IN THE ARCADE.....
HOW ABOUT SOME NEW GAMES IN THE ARCADE.....
Self destruction has just occurred, and likely to the liking of many posters, Have a great vacation
Oh...nevermind, I see what happened!
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The final results
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Good luck AC.........because lord knows....your gonna need it.
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Good luck AC.........because lord knows....your gonna need it.
So why did you ask the question?
As for the "what I do for Haiti that's between me and Haiti" response.
I'll take that as a cop out. I expected nothing less, so you didn't disappoint
Actually the argument isn't so much about Wyclef, it's about change.
He is offering change, which is 6 more letters than you have offered.
Unfortunately Haiti is a "disaster". It was like that before the earthquake and remains that way today. It's the midset that people like yourself peddle that has gotten it to that place and kept it their. Be proud, you have done a great job!
I understand your agenda, changing the status quo would "potentially" be a disaster for you. People fear change, the current political elite, cronies, parasites in Haiti.
Wyclef having a say would be crazy right? He has no political background, language issues etc etc.
Then again...
Doing what you have always done and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity. I take it you're part of the insanity camp?
At least Wyclef has woken a few people up and put Haiti back in the spotlight, which is more than can be said for some others that sit at their keyboards spewing BS 1,000s of miles away.
Next....
Too many pages and my head hurts. Anyway, the rejection of his attempt to run is all shaded by the autocratic elites who fear a populist president who not only has the voice of the people AND will attempt to do well BUT also he will have the eye of the world involved in the affairs of Haiti. Troublesome for an egocentric ruling class that wants the privilege of running a country and ruining a country. We all know this...
But there is another issue and it is the expropriation of power by the expatriate community. Clearly Wyclef wouldnt come alone were he to be elected. He d come with Haitian Americans people who made good in Miami, NY, NJ, Mass., and they would also have the eye, ear, attention and connections with worldwide organizations and the constructive know how to establish a government that works for the people and also is functional and beneficial to the people.
Sounds like DR would love that...in theory, but since the elites arent constrained by boundaries drawn on a piece of paper the election of Wyclef and his "Cabinet of advisors" also would bring ruin to Eastern side of the island with the exploitacion of labor and resources that exist here. Just like a fresh wind would come into PAP from US it could happen the same way into SDQ and then party bosses and patron would find themselves without minions and underlings to impose their power.
Sincerely doubt this due to the fact that, if those expatiate Haitians in NJ, FL, NY, Canada really had a thought of going back and helping the country that they LEFT they would have done it without needing a celebrity for president. I really doubt if he would have made any difference at all, but merely extended the status quo
As far as the thought of that putting pressure on the east side of the island why would that happen. please be detailed with your reasons.
With all due respect to the major conspiracy theories out there, ie that there are a group of elitists out there secretly controlling the world (skull and bones, etc.) those who control the political situation in Haiti have nothing to do with the political situation here in the DR. Anyone with an understanding of Dominican history and politics would know that.
As far as what goes on in Haiti, anything positive will only reflect positively on this side of the island too.
One thing I read in the news -
The good things that the D.R. has done for Haiti over the last 7 months could backfire.
There has been a very lax implementation of immigration controls.
The problem for the D.R. might be that as son as they try to implement more sensible policies (ie not letting everyone in without question) the international community will be all over them for being anti Haitian.
Whoever gets to president should work on this.
If and when the money arrives for reconstruction then I beleive a fair chunk of it should go to Dominican companies.
It is all very well being best buddies politically but it is more important to have solid economic relations if this relationship is to continue.
The good things that the D.R. has done for Haiti over the last 7 months could backfire.
There has been a very lax implementation of immigration controls.
The problem for the D.R. might be that as son as they try to implement more sensible policies (ie not letting everyone in without question) the international community will be all over them for being anti Haitian.
Whoever gets to president should work on this.
If and when the money arrives for reconstruction then I beleive a fair chunk of it should go to Dominican companies.
It is all very well being best buddies politically but it is more important to have solid economic relations if this relationship is to continue.
From what I've heard and seen out there anything coming from solely American sources(USAID) will need to have partnered with a Haitian firm. I found this out the hard way as I had teamed up with one of the largest and respected engineering/contracting firms here in the DR and we were rejected mostly because of that. Does it matter that there is hardly any construction industry in Haiti much less professionals with adequate experience? No. What matters is the people who did the Environmental Assessment Report were thinking in their abode far away in the States and for the contracting officer in charge of awarding the contract that is more than enough credibility.
As far as what is coming from the "Clinton Commission" word is that they will be working with exclusively American companies for whatever reason. Don't hold me on this one.
All this being said, Dominican companies are and will continue to win projects if not as the prime at least as subcontractors.
I believe when all this work starts up and more when homes are constructed that many Haitians will be returning home. Funny is I expect many Dominicans to make the move too.
From what I've heard and seen out there anything coming from solely American sources(USAID) will need to have partnered with a Haitian firm. I found this out the hard way as I had teamed up with one of the largest and respected engineering/contracting firms here in the DR and we were rejected mostly because of that. Does it matter that there is hardly any construction industry in Haiti much less professionals with adequate experience? No. What matters is the people who did the Environmental Assessment Report were thinking in their abode far away in the States and for the contracting officer in charge of awarding the contract that is more than enough credibility.
As far as what is coming from the "Clinton Commission" word is that they will be working with exclusively American companies for whatever reason. Don't hold me on this one.
All this being said, Dominican companies are and will continue to win projects if not as the prime at least as subcontractors.
I believe when all this work starts up and more when homes are constructed that many Haitians will be returning home. Funny is I expect many Dominicans to make the move too.
And with reason, this is a tremendous opportunity for contracts to rebuild Haiti's infrastructure. The DR contractors will definitely gain a lot of benefits out of this tragedy (earthquake).
This isnt about aligning yourself with a celebrity president. This is about fiscal, social and moral responsibility to the people of Haiti. It s about starting with a clean slate and attention from the world to see how much will be done and to what extent things are done. Those expats you deride could have gone back to Haiti and been frustrated because everything they wanted to do was thwarted by maquinations of the people in power. "We want to LOOK like we re helping but not actually BE helping."
And I ll add that in addition to Haitian Americans, there would be other professionals and skilled tradesman from other black communities throughout America, Canada and other places that would make the effort at improving the country and making it sustainable.
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Your true objection should be to that of "Would it even matter if there were a celebrity president in charge of the failed state?" Bill Clinton as overseer of economic aid hasnt done much in the 6 months he has been in charge. Major obstacle against the clean up? Land acquisition. Wyclef would have to implement some sort of actions at land reform, most probably eminent domain. Sounds like something the aristocrats may have to compromise on or lose out to. And unlike decades in the past where they could just make the decisions that they wanted to make it becomes harder to do when there is a BBC reporter and a UNICEF investigator and in the age we live in the most contemptuous, the online internet freelance journalist(not to even mention the Wiki-Leaks, Huffington Post, Slate.com, Lespayneblog, Caldwell Chronicles, kind of organizations).
And solely by being famous doesnt mean you are inept at running civil governments. Schwarzenegger didnt do too bad as Governor of Cali. Neither did Jesse Ventura, nor the Love Boat dude. Nor Lech Walesa, or Nelson Mandela. Ruben Blades made an attempt at Panama.
And Chip, Dominican history is a cartoon. You can read any Dominican libro de escolar and it sounds like a UPS Popeye cartoon from the 40s.
And the political structure with respect to Haiti has nothing to do with the elites. It has to do with the darkening of the populace and more compelling African influences over the European ones. The political structure does its best to be Eurocentric, now and then. Go to Museo Leon Jimenez and check out that wall with the dolls on it. And on the adjacent wall there is a song posted "Negro atras la oreja". THE most succinct description of Dominican history and politics are in the lyrics to that song.
I heard that there is eminent domain legislation in Haiti - but that it would be political suicide to use it.
i didn't feel like shifting through all the bickering in this threat, so excuse me is the news has been posted before:
Wyclef Jean Exposes Haiti Electoral Officials, "They Violated The Constitution To Benefit Their Families & Friends" | SOHH.COM
he is accusing the cep of being corrupt and violating the constitution in order to be able to continue to live of the peoples money.
Wyclef Jean Exposes Haiti Electoral Officials, "They Violated The Constitution To Benefit Their Families & Friends" | SOHH.COM
he is accusing the cep of being corrupt and violating the constitution in order to be able to continue to live of the peoples money.