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Tom F.

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The reason the chocolate who is made in DR isn t has great as the one made in Switzerland, France or Belgium is that big cacao beans are exported outside of DR and what is left for the inside market is just the left over (mini beans) as far as i know from SFM.

It is a bit more complicated than that. The big beans are not always the better flavor beans. You do want a uniform size for the roasting process. From what I have learned, about half of the Dominican production is fermented and half not. The Sanchez, or unfermented beans, are sold into the bulk market are often pressed for butter and cacoa (cake). About 12% of production is consumed within the country and is most likely Sanchez. The Hershey and Mars stuff is mostly made from this cheaper cacao and much goes into the cosmetic industry. The Hispanola, or fermented beans, are then graded and priced accordingly. Because the Europeans have been the primary market for fine tasting cacao, much of the better quality beans have been committed to long term, larger buyers. You pretty much have to purchase 20 tons to buy from any of the major or medium sized exporters. There are a few people shipping smaller amounts from their family farms and selling them in the US and the price reflects the added shipping costs.

The best beans in the DR are probably coming off the Rizek farms and Michael Cluzil has a Los Alcones bar with beans used from a specific farm. The superior bean production is small right now but is growing as some have been replacing trees on farms to produce a lighter colored, less bitter bean. SpanNVola and Cacao Prieto are probably the only Farm to Bar (and beyond) chocolate production I know about in the US. They both make a very nice chocolate on their farms in the DR and do all the processing until the final product.
 

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The stuff sold Munne sells in the stores in the DR and Washington Heights is not very good, even for drinking. They add all kinds of nonsense in it if you read the label. I went to their processing factory in SFM and from what I learned, almost all of wht they produce is not fermented Sanchez beans. I was told that they only ferment a small amount which is then processed in the capital. The chocolate sold at Xocolat is of much higher quality.

TomF shows his ability to be a diplomat by saying that the bars are not very good. a coarser kind, such as i, would characterize them as being inedible.
 

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no one suggest a good bakery, for chocolate cake or mouthwatering bakery in Santiago that has a real good recommendation what to buy there that's real yummy??
 

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Rafael Perez

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I bought a box.
No good for eating them like a chocolate bar...

My wife tells me those are small tablets to make hot chocolate from, they contain a LOT of sugar (grains).


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Eventhough I never tasted the Munne brand tablet, they do remind me of the Embajador brand tablets, and are the same as what you mentioned above. They also can't be eaten the same way as a chocolate thanks to the grains of sugar. ugh!
 

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I don't rate Xocolat that highly. More style than content. It's Ok but not really comparable to good Belgian chocolate. It has the look and presentation of a European chocolaterie but the sugar/fat ratio in the actual chocs has the be adjusted to local conditions of temperature and humidity, as explained by Diana herself several years ago when I interviewed her for DominicanCooking.com. At the time they had a branch at Plaza Andalucia, since closed.
 

Tom F.

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Eventhough I never tasted the Munne brand tablet, they do remind me of the Embajador brand tablets, and are the same as what you mentioned above. They also can't be eaten the same way as a chocolate thanks to the grains of sugar. ugh!

Munne and Embajador are drinking chocolate and not made to eat like a bar.
 

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no one suggest a good bakery, for chocolate cake or mouthwatering bakery in Santiago that has a real good recommendation what to buy there that's real yummy??

in santiago i love la campana. they are in few different places, they do breaks and baked goods and they also have a restaurant - sandwiches, salads, burgers. their breads are really good and they have a great variety. croissants are fantastic too. prices are somewhat on the high side but still decent. i make my own bread so i know that quality does not come cheap.

their main shop, i believe, is just a street away from clinica union and plaza internacional.
 

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in santiago i love la campana. they are in few different places, they do breaks and baked goods and they also have a restaurant - sandwiches, salads, burgers. their breads are really good and they have a great variety. croissants are fantastic too. prices are somewhat on the high side but still decent. i make my own bread so i know that quality does not come cheap.

their main shop, i believe, is just a street away from clinica union and plaza internacional.
La Campana is an excellent chain.

There is also one in Los Jardines, on the same corner as FedEx (I think).

FWIW, my cocoa guru acquaintances, many of whom are also coffee gurus (and buyers), say most Dominican cocoa is of lower quality.

I don't know, just what buyers say...
 

Tom F.

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Cobraboy, You are right about the general reputation of Dominican cacao overall. The financial incentives are not in place to encourage farmers to change the genetic stock on their farms and begin separation of the better quality cacao. It does happen on a small scale and is really where the country needs to move over the next 10-20 years. Proper harvesting and post harvesting practices are critical in the development of fine flavor cacao. Only about 10-12% of the world's cacao harvest is for the fine flavor markets and the DR probably can say the equal percentage of the 50,000 tons or so produced is fine flavor, maybe a little less. There are individuals who are converting small parts of the their farms to genetically superior trees. When higher price differentials exist more people will change the way they do business.
 

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On a recent trip to DR and after reading this thread- learning about Xocolat I had to try it. I am a chocolate enthusiast and like to try it everywhere I go. Truffles from Xocolat are at the same level as any Godiva.

Another mention in this thread was La Campagna - I must add it has been the best Mangu [after home-made] I have ever had. Go there and have el tipico- comes with Mangu, eggs to order, grilled cheese, and two sausages. Also, customer service was great and wachiman (security) stopped traffic for me to exit the parking lot without asking for propina.
 

Tom F.

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The less processed the chocolate, the healthier it is. If you are really looking for healthy drinking chocolate there are 5 groups of women around the country who sell gritty balls of chocolate paste which can be hand ground for hot chocolate or avena. They are located in Los Naranjos, Castillo; Loma de Jaya near San Francisco de Macoris; Palmar Grande, Alta Mira; Hato Mayor and Yamasa. I have also seen them sold in colmados near Blanco Arriba and in El Limon on Samana.