It's been my experience that the one who knows he's lost the argument is the one who starts tossing around silly insults. If you can't make your point reasonably, then dehumanize.
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Motoconcho killed in Cabarete
It's been my experience that the one who knows he's lost the argument is the one who starts tossing around silly insults. If you can't make your point reasonably, then dehumanize.
actually, i was making no argument, neither was i debating anyone, so i am in no position to lose anything. this is just a case of divergent viewpoints, which should not elicit a debate. if you think it is acceptable for a foreigner living in someone's country to see the citizens as worthless and disposable creatures, be my guest. i would never attempt to change your mind. this is not like counseling you against running stop signs; socialization is fundamental.
Not to disrespect the initial intent of the OP who was relating the news of a tragic event ( and it is..... When a life is cut shirt, it is always a tragedy ) and not to interrupt this thread, But I have to say that I am continuously fascinated by the spirited debates (name calling aside ), the well articulated opinions, and may I dare say the well thought out... Almost philosophical arguments that "go down" here on DR 1.
Now let's get back to the action, rattus rattus I think it's your turn......
Now let's get back to the action, rattus rattus I think it's your turn......
Don't waste your time. I agree with your position of not attempting to change anyone's mind. i am disappointed that others humans can be so callus as demonstrated by the some of the preceeding but, i know that i can only judge myself. My solution, i don't associate with others who have such different views than I have and i evaluate only my actions.
Frank , is that the man that the "watchymen" at Ocean one trusted to send for the tourists there? They vouched for him and said he was honest and trustworthy? We were there for a week and it seems to me that it is he. His name was Jean if I recall correctly as well. If it is him, he had the full trust of the security there and was right on on his service . Deepest sympathies to he and his family and my heart goes out to those children. I have 2 and its my biggest fear !
I don't know, but Johnny just came by O'shay's and told me that a good friend of Louis (the man who died)--gave Louis's family her only good sheets for the coffin so that Louis could be buried in nice sheets.
Such is the life of poor people...that someone as equally as poor--if not more poor--gives up their best sheets to line the coffin with.
Who among us can possibly relate to this way of life.
Frank
Okay I know some people there and will ask.
I Agree , I admire how so many try and many succeed in leading their lives with as much
dignity as they can muster up. I for one, have the utmost respect for most (not all) . Similar to people from every other ethnicity, country, or financial status. There are good and bad amongst all and none should be judged or pigeon holed . May he rest in peace and I only hope his children will be okay and have some support within the Haitian community there .
thank you. one needs to know which fights to pick. changing dispositions is not one of the ones you should select.
well, wierdscott might relate, but don't look to him to give any bedsheets if they cost more than 500 pesos.
Nop, i have no more to add. I let the future Darwin award candidate run around in circle chasing that evil shadow....
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no one? what good does a sheet do to a dead man? and how does it help the living? do they worry more about what to line the coffin with than the death itself?
International Funeral Customs
"• In Haiti, family members are responsible for much of the hands-on funeral planning, including preparing and dressing the body for burial. Displays of grief may be set aside until all the possessions of the deceased have been moved out of the home."
Just observing these careless drivers disregard so many of the basic rules of the road. They are a danger to themselves and innocent people on the road. I wonder what the mortality rate for these guys
the mortality rate is among the highest in the world. these guys are among the worst drivers on the planet. they are indisciplined, disorderly, and dangerous.
how does any of that translate to a conclusion that their lives are only worth 500 pesos?
Gallows humour has it's time and place. After the SAR Techs( Search and Rescue ) guys came back from having to cut a body out of a mangled aircraft, or pick up the pieces...etc they always had two de-briefs, an official one and an unofficial one where there was plenty of gallows humour. This was part of the distressing.
Anyways it tragic for the family of the poor guy that got killed.