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Verdugo
Okay, so I finally got to ask my wife. I explain: She's been tying up loose ends in Yonkers, N.Y., while I establish things here in DR. She'll be here in Sept. In the meanwhile we Skype and tely. Her response was an abusive tyrant and said that I'm a good example of a verdugo. This, of course, is not true, but now I remember who called me that before. :devious:
Exactly what suarezn said.
But Dominican spouses want to sound as if they are "above the fray" and super-duper edumacated when talking to their better halves: "That's barrio talk, honey."
Here in Higey the only meaning for which I have ever heard "verdugo" was as someone who as good at something e.g. as Aguita29 mentioned
He knowwwws...A Dominican can't insulate him/herself that much that they don't hear those words. I think Lucifer is completely right when he says that Dominicans married to foreigners want to appear to be "above the fray".
I would bet that if someone said to him "Dimelo verdugo" he would understand 100% what that person meant.
I don't know how to explain it to a foreigner, but WE Dominicans have this unwritten language that we ALL understand. Sometimes we don't even have to say anything to each other and we know what's up...I could be sitting meters away from someone whom I have never even met and and a simple mouth or eye gesture can describe a whole list of things to the other person.
I see it all the time. Even with my own kids who are American born and raised I notice that when we are in The DR most of the time they're oblivious to everything that's going on around them. I believe it stems from growing up in a place where things aren't as "safe" and "sanitized" as in a developed country. You grow up aware of your surroundings 100% of the time and you kind of develop this six sense...
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he truly does not. sometime she does not even understand what does our maid say. he lived a sheltered life. and he certainly married down to me so he does not need to pretend anything.
of course he does. he sees his workers every day. but they talk about work related things. he has little to do with them on a social level. i do not deal "normal" dominican either apart from our maids and a gardener.
Then every time those super-duper, "above the fray" and hyper-edumacated Dominicans hear the word 'verdugo', they can only assume that the speaker called them an executioner? Wow! "Yo noy soy un verdugo; yo soy el ingeniero en sistemas Don Fulano de tal."
I could almost hear it: "Ke lo ke, montro?"
"Mida bien sus palabras. Yo no soy un monstruo, y creo que ud. debiera de decir 'que es lo que es?' y no 'ke lo ke?' Aunque le advierto que la manera correcta es 'Hola, Ingeniero. Que tal?'"
not everyone in this country spends time chatting with anti-super-duper, below the fray and unedumacated dominicans.
Consider:
Typical educamated Dominican and ex-pat partner are at Iberia, and are within earshot of unedumacated Dominicans having a conversation:
Yafreisi: "Muchacho, pero dichoso los ojos! Tu te pierde!"
(Ex-pat to Dominican partner: "What did she say to him, honey?" Smart Dominican: "She called him a boy and something about eyes being lucky and accused him of getting lost often.")
Yafreisi: "Dime de tu vida. Ke lo ke, contigo?"
(Ex-pat: What, honey?)
(SmartDom: Well, she asked him about his life.)
(Ex-pat: HIS LIFE? What's wrong with his life?)
Guarionex: "Mi'ja, si te cuento no termino. Toy en olla y me toy tragando un cable."
(Honey, what did he say to her?)
(SD: That's his daughter, I think. And he told her he's inside a cooking pan or pressure cooker, and he's swallowing a cable.)
(Honey, doesn't he know this is not a pressure cooker; this is Iberia. Besides, I don't see a cable. Is he alright?)
Yafreisi: "Pero tu no 'taba trabajando en B?varo? ?Qu? pas??"
Guarionex: "Taba. Dilo duro. Pusieron gente nueva y me cancelaron... a mi y a mucho."
Yafriesi: "Eso no e' na'. Alg?n d?a ajolcan blanco y negro ser? el beldugo."
(Honey, what's going on?)
(SD: "He had a job at a hotel and was laid off. But she said that there's going to be a lynching of white folks and a black man will be the executioner.)
(Ex-pat: Oh! Honey, we're white! Could she be talking about us? Should we call 9-1-1 and inform the authorities?)
Guarionex: "Y ke de t?, Yafreisi? Te casate ya?
Yafreisi: "No, mi'jo. Para k? te digo?! Tu sabe como son los hombre: mujeriego y jabladore. Lo tube que solt? en banda."
(Honey... ?)
(SD: Well, he asked her if she was already married. But I think he's her son. Anyway, she's saying that all men are womanizers and liars and she had to let her man loose somewhere...)
Guarionex: "Eso no e' na'. No le pare bola. Ma pa'lante vive gente, y tu sabe que un clavo saca otro clavo."
(Ex-pat: Honey... ?)
(SD: He told her that's nothing and something else about a ball. Also told her that there are people living up ahead and that a nail pulls another nail out.)
(Ex-pat: These people are weird, honey. How can he be her father and then she's his mother? These people are weird!)
(SD: You're right, baby. These folks don't understand a thing about life.)
Typical educamated Dominican and ex-pat partner are at Iberia, and are within earshot of unedumacated Dominicans having a conversation:
Yafreisi: "Muchacho, pero dichoso los ojos! Tu te pierde!"
(Ex-pat to Dominican partner: "What did she say to him, honey?" Smart Dominican: "She called him a boy and something about eyes being lucky and accused him of getting lost often.")
Yafreisi: "Dime de tu vida. Ke lo ke, contigo?"
(Ex-pat: What, honey?)
(SmartDom: Well, she asked him about his life.)
(Ex-pat: HIS LIFE? What's wrong with his life?)
Guarionex: "Mi'ja, si te cuento no termino. Toy en olla y me toy tragando un cable."
(Honey, what did he say to her?)
(SD: That's his daughter, I think. And he told her he's inside a cooking pan or pressure cooker, and he's swallowing a cable.)
(Honey, doesn't he know this is not a pressure cooker; this is Iberia. Besides, I don't see a cable. Is he alright?)
Yafreisi: "Pero tu no 'taba trabajando en B?varo? ?Qu? pas??"
Guarionex: "Taba. Dilo duro. Pusieron gente nueva y me cancelaron... a mi y a mucho."
Yafriesi: "Eso no e' na'. Alg?n d?a ajolcan blanco y negro ser? el beldugo."
(Honey, what's going on?)
(SD: "He had a job at a hotel and was laid off. But she said that there's going to be a lynching of white folks and a black man will be the executioner.)
(Ex-pat: Oh! Honey, we're white! Could she be talking about us? Should we call 9-1-1 and inform the authorities?)
Guarionex: "Y ke de t?, Yafreisi? Te casate ya?
Yafreisi: "No, mi'jo. Para k? te digo?! Tu sabe como son los hombre: mujeriego y jabladore. Lo tube que solt? en banda."
(Honey... ?)
(SD: Well, he asked her if she was already married. But I think he's her son. Anyway, she's saying that all men are womanizers and liars and she had to let her man loose somewhere...)
Guarionex: "Eso no e' na'. No le pare bola. Ma pa'lante vive gente, y tu sabe que un clavo saca otro clavo."
(Ex-pat: Honey... ?)
(SD: He told her that's nothing and something else about a ball. Also told her that there are people living up ahead and that a nail pulls another nail out.)
(Ex-pat: These people are weird, honey. How can he be her father and then she's his mother? These people are weird!)
(SD: You're right, baby. These folks don't understand a thing about life.)
The word "verdugo" is kind of common, but there are certainly many words, terms and expressions asked here that are either modern young people slang, or barrio talk indeed.
Being Dominican doesn't mean you're guaranteed to know them. For example, the first time I heard the word "guiri", it was here on Dr1. I had to ask my nephew what it meant. There was also this time a neighbor's son came with loud music in his car, the son playing was "la chapa que vibra", and were like "what the hell is that???"
So if you don't know stuff like this, it doesn't mean you're not a normal Dominican.
Being Dominican doesn't mean you're guaranteed to know them. For example, the first time I heard the word "guiri", it was here on Dr1. I had to ask my nephew what it meant. There was also this time a neighbor's son came with loud music in his car, the son playing was "la chapa que vibra", and were like "what the hell is that???"
So if you don't know stuff like this, it doesn't mean you're not a normal Dominican.
Aguaita: There are definitely slang words being invented all the time and when they first come out I think it's normal that many people won't know what they mean, but things like verdugo or 'Beldugo' have been around for a long time and are not just used by 'lo tigere'...so Deja tu guiri guiri y pon a vibrar esa chapa...:cheeky:
