Rick from Rocky's story.

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Cdn_Gringo

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For the life of me I can't figure out why he is going through this exercise on an anonymous forum. He was yesterday's news until he raised his head above the horizon and shouted "look at me." None of this can be very good for attracting potential guests to the business and forces family here in the DR to relive memories of that troubling time. Any decent image consultant would have advised him to avoid any public statements at all.
 

Cdn_Gringo

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Rick, good luck to you. It's going to be a train wreck but it will be your train wreck if you don't stash that keyboard in a drawer.
 

mobrouser

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Yup, of course. Just changing your life, no matter what it takes, no matter had bad it is can save your life. I am living proof of that. I lost 180 lbs and learned that there is more, much much more to life than slaving every day to pay the banks and the government. I had no idea that any of this escape from the ratrace was possible until I moved to the DR. The DR saved my life.

Good enough for you? Die or steal money. For me it was an easy choice. How about you?

Take care,

Rick

For a narcissist apparently it is an easy choice.
 

frank12

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Hey Rick,

I haven't had time to read through 41-pages of this thread, and i have never met you that i'm aware of, but let me just say this:

Even though i do not know you, I'm with you here. Except, i would have done it differently. Let me explain...

Although i have never stolen from an employer, that's factually incorrect. I have stolen. And so has nearly every single person on this planet, as well as every person you have ever met. The problem is that people define stealing in very, very subjective ways. Here are some examples..

1. You work in a restaurant, hotel, Army base, PX, grocery store, etc, and your thirsty. You drink a coke, beer, or a bottle water without paying for it.

2. You work at one of the above locations and you've just worked 8-hours and your hungry, so you eat a candy bar or cupcake, chips, or whatever without paying for it.

3. You're doing your taxes and you're not exactly being forthcoming in all of your "Earned" income--i.e--selling items in your yard or garage sale, rental income, etc. (the list almost endless here, and almost no North American i have ever met lists all of their earned income).

Believe me, there are tens of thousands of other examples of how people "Pad" or "under-declare" their income in North America, and we don't even want to get into how construction companies, plumbers, electricians, and other trades do to cheat on their taxes (my brother works in construction here in Ohio).

Recently, I just went into a small side business here in Ohio with a man named, Ron, he owns slightly over 300 houses here in Montgomery county (Mostly Section 8 housing). He recently got out of "White Collar" prison for, yep...you guessed it, tax issues. He's a good friend of a friend, and he's doing what everyone else is doing here in America--fudging numbers. He got caught. he did 1.5yrs.

But i digress...

What i really want to say here is this: If i was in your exact same position, and i was not happy with my life, and i had the unique opportunity to steal 1-million dollars from a huge parent company, i would take the money and start burying it around different cities like a squirrel!!

I would be so fu^&&king busy burying money in PVC pipes people would think i was nocturnal. And then, i would go and turn myself in. Like right away. Like right now. I would say, "yep, i stole the money. I regret it, but now i'm ready to face the music!"

I would plead guilty and go straight to prison. When asked about where the money is, i would simply say i took it to different casinos throughout Latin America and lost it all. (I would make sure i traveled to several different Latin american countries and leave a paper trail of having visited them.)

Sure, i would be imprisoned for 5, 6, 7 years. Big deal. You're in prison in North America, man! You're not Banged-up-Abroad Asia, Africa, Latin America or any 3rd world country.

Doing time in the US or Canada, for me, would be like a vacation! Free food, medical care, libraries, books, gyms, etc. What's rough about that?

6 or 7yrs later after you get out of prison, you slowly start digging up your stash. And then you take off and go live the life you would never, ever, ever had the opportunity to live. Then you write a book about it and sell the movie rights. If the book is successful, or if the movie is successful, great...now you start paying back the money. And then guess what? You sit down and write another book about how you paid back all the fukkc7ing money with interest that you had stolen!! Suddenly, you got another made for movie story.

I go to go. I got to go have another coffee and think this thing through. I need to find someone with a millions dollars that trusts me with their Bank card & Pin Number.

Frank
 
Hey Rick, You did your time, your out, you have your wife and business to come back to in DR, You got it off your chest, No need to try and convince people of your changed life or whether or not you are truly repenting what you have done. those of us who knew you before and liked you, will still be here and we still like you. Then there are many who want to impose their alleged higher morality on you, and no matter what you say, they never going to like or trust you anyway, My honest opinion is live your life and ignore those who dont want to forgive you, They are not paying your bills, so they mean nothing in the big picture. You have your health and your family, so enjoy life to the fullest, everyday above ground is a blessing, enjoy it.
 

frank12

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I got a cup of coffee and read a few pages back and saw where you brought up an important ethical/moral dilemma. It needs addressed.

Standing in your shoes, would i steal a million dollars if it meant finding the love of my life and losing 180lbs?

I had to have three sips of very strong, double espresso to properly think this through. It's not an easy question. Most people will subconsciously or unconsciously lie when they give you their answer. Why? Because everyone wants to believe that they're morally above reproach.

The problem is that few people are capable of putting themselves in other people shoes and see what living inside a living hell must be like? (...)

Also, few people have been given the opportunity to take a million dollars and it not being noticed until after they're long gone.

The opportunity is key here. And so is the fact that you were unhealthy and unhappy.

Can anyone put a price on happiness? What is happiness worth? What is unhappiness worth? How many people commit suicide every single day as a result of being miserable and unhappy...often at no fault of their own.

Can anyone put a price on love? How about people who have never experienced any sustained love or joy in their lives? Is it worth spending 3 years in jail if it meant having finally found the love of your life...your soulmate? Is it worth a million dollars to finally have found true happiness...something meaningful...worth living for?

And what price are people willing to pay to lose 180lb (that's astonishing BTW!) I'd give $100 dollars to lose just 15lbs. I might give up my daughter if it meant losing another 50lbs. The wife would go next for another 50lbs.

Put into the same situation as you--being miserable, being unhappy, yearning for love--i know exactly what i would do. It took a double shot of espresso for me to be honest with myself: I would have stolen 2-million.
 
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ohmmmm

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This is crazy logic. Stealing money leads to love and weight loss? Listen, you have the power to change your life beginning now. Want to lose weight? Go on a Keto diet. There are avenues to make your life better and enjoyable by doing things for yourself that are legal and good. This victim mentality that something out there will bring you happiness is BS. Live a good life and appreciate what you have and STFU with the BS pandering logic. We all make mistakes and do stuff we shouldn't have. Live and let live and happy we all survive another day. No need to be so fing silly dramatic. Another one for "can't make this sht up" ... hahahaha
 

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I got a cup of coffee and read a few pages back and saw where you brought up an important ethical/moral dilemma. It needs addressed.

Standing in your shoes, would i steal a million dollars if it meant finding the love of my life and losing 180lbs?

I had to have three sips of very strong, double espresso to properly think this through. It's not an easy question. Most people will subconsciously or unconsciously lie when they give you their answer. Why? Because everyone wants to believe that they're morally above reproach.

The problem is that few people are capable of putting themselves in other people shoes and see what living inside a living hell must be like? (...)

Also, few people have been given the opportunity to take a million dollars and it not being noticed until after they're long gone.

The opportunity is key here. And so is the fact that you were unhealthy and unhappy.

Can anyone put a price on happiness? What is happiness worth? What is unhappiness worth? How many people commit suicide every single day as a result of being miserable and unhappy...often at no fault of their own.

Can anyone put a price on love? How about people who have never experienced any sustained love or joy in their lives? Is it worth spending 3 years in jail if it meant having finally found the love of your life...your soulmate? Is it worth a million dollars to finally have found true happiness...something meaningful...worth living for?

And what price are people willing to pay to lose 180lb (that's astonishing BTW!) I'd give $100 dollars to lose just 15lbs. I might give up my daughter if it meant losing another 50lbs. The wife would go next for another 50lbs.

Put into the same situation as you--being miserable, being unhappy, yearning for love--i know exactly what i would do. It took a double shot of espresso for me to be honest with myself: I would have stolen 2-million.

Years back, having a conversation with the hubby of the owner ( my boss ), over a couple of drinks after we had closed up. The whole system was fukced up in that restaurant.
Subtly, i turned the convo in that direction.
I said to him, quote " I do not steal from you for your sake ( or because I like you ), I dont steal from you for my sake ."
If we are trying to put a price tag on losing weight and/or love, well a clear conscience is much, much more expensive....... in my opinion.

A couple of months later, we discovered that1 of the managers stole not far off from 200k, over 2 years.
And after that, for-mentionned hubby took off with a waitress for mexico, leaving his wife and 3 kids.......lol.
 
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I really don't care. Folks like you rarely forgive and never forget. Are you God? This question is solo for all of us to determine if you have ever done anything wrong? I don't ever expect you to answer because I know, as well as everyone reading this thread know that you have. I am here to explain myself to those in the DR who have known me for over 10 years and who can vouch for my integrity. After all, I dare you to say that I ever stole anything from you. After my meltdown in 2006 I never ever wanted to steal again. I was so full of remorse that that almost killed me.

Marco started a tradition at Rocky's to take wrapped Christmas presents to the needy of Sosua over 20 years ago. I am proud that I upheld that tradition for the 7 years I was there. Often putting much of my own money towards the effort. Many of you were there during the festivities including many high placed names of the DR1 community. I am not a bad person. I didn't kill your mother. I help people, especially the less fortunate. I have proved that, time and again. Let bygones be bygones. After all, I didn't steal from you did I?

Take care,

Rick

ROBIN HOOD IS ALIVE AND WELL
 

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i had to do a smidgen of editing and moderating here, folks. please do not play race games in this thread, oki doki? that's what the OT is for.
 

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Rick I thought I had problems until I saw your story. What are the chances that the DR lets you return? I wish you the best.
 

Don PISTOLAS

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Lets be honest here. Your Business was failing long before you got picked up. You did a great job for a long time taking care of your customers, at the begining, from what I've heard. You had a very loyal following. However, that all changed. Why, bc you started to nickle and dime everbody. Thats the Rick I got to meet!

Guest who got discount for being members of certain groups, had to remind you of the discount, Even when checking in under a handle. Your atm machine banged them for an atm fee. Then, you wouldnt give them dollars and you bang them a few more points on the exchange. You just kept raising prices and raising prices. Guys would book a room in place, and you give them a more expensive room somehwere else charge them the higher rate. Not warning them in advance. Just waiting for them to show up.

If all that wasnt enough, you misrable a lot of the time. Disrespectful, as mentioned by a previous poster, asking to sleep with his woman. A drunk with a mean streak does not fair well, as you learned in CMP. Now, many of have heard your version of events that happened that night. But, many of us know what really happened.

Do you remember screaming and yelling at a long time guest, on pedro clisante, who no longer stayed with you? You made it very well known yoir business was no longer thriving. Do not blame it on your new "thief" label.

Sometimes in life, an apology, is too little too late. You come on here saying sorry, its just self serving, and you seem to have forgot about a lot of other **** you should have been sorry for.

You mind me a lot of my father. He was a con man too. Anybody who met him after a score, loved him. But once the chips were down again, they were usually his next victims....

With that said, best of luck too you. Hopefully you stick to your sobriety, bc that will be key in rebuilding your business. I am sure with time people will forget. D'arcy is proof of that............

Oh wait on second thought.... lol
 

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Hey Rick, You did your time, your out, you have your wife and business to come back to in DR, You got it off your chest, No need to try and convince people of your changed life or whether or not you are truly repenting what you have done. those of us who knew you before and liked you, will still be here and we still like you. Then there are many who want to impose their alleged higher morality on you, and no matter what you say, they never going to like or trust you anyway, My honest opinion is live your life and ignore those who dont want to forgive you, They are not paying your bills, so they mean nothing in the big picture. You have your health and your family, so enjoy life to the fullest, everyday above ground is a blessing, enjoy it.

Does DR allow known felons in ?
I thought that was what criminal background checks were to prevent know felons from entering. Since Rick was escorted out once I assume immigration would have him on their radar screen and not allowed back in.
 

Cdn_Gringo

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... and now the tantrum begins. I suspect you'll be handing out a lot more dislikes as time goes on fishguy. Get it out of your system, it's difficult to hide the real you from others for any length of time.

May I have another?
 

Dafishguy

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... and now the tantrum begins. I suspect you'll be handing out a lot more dislikes as time goes on fishguy. Get it out of your system, it's difficult to hide the real you from others for any length of time.

May I have another?

Nope, I'll just continue on with my life loving and living with Milka and my new daughter thank you very much. I GOT it all out of my system sir by doing my time and repaying most of the money. What have you got to be remorseful for? I'm totally sure that there is something, right? Nothing I can ever say will ever change your mind about me so I won't even try. You sir are not worth the effort.

Have a fantastic life.

Take care,

Rick
 

Dafishguy

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Lets be honest here. Your Business was failing long before you got picked up. You did a great job for a long time taking care of your customers, at the begining, from what I've heard. You had a very loyal following. However, that all changed. Why, bc you started to nickle and dime everbody. Thats the Rick I got to meet!

Guest who got discount for being members of certain groups, had to remind you of the discount, Even when checking in under a handle. Your atm machine banged them for an atm fee. Then, you wouldnt give them dollars and you bang them a few more points on the exchange. You just kept raising prices and raising prices. Guys would book a room in place, and you give them a more expensive room somehwere else charge them the higher rate. Not warning them in advance. Just waiting for them to show up.

If all that wasnt enough, you misrable a lot of the time. Disrespectful, as mentioned by a previous poster, asking to sleep with his woman. A drunk with a mean streak does not fair well, as you learned in CMP. Now, many of have heard your version of events that happened that night. But, many of us know what really happened.

Do you remember screaming and yelling at a long time guest, on pedro clisante, who no longer stayed with you? You made it very well known yoir business was no longer thriving. Do not blame it on your new "thief" label.

Sometimes in life, an apology, is too little too late. You come on here saying sorry, its just self serving, and you seem to have forgot about a lot of other **** you should have been sorry for.

You mind me a lot of my father. He was a con man too. Anybody who met him after a score, loved him. But once the chips were down again, they were usually his next victims....

With that said, best of luck too you. Hopefully you stick to your sobriety, bc that will be key in rebuilding your business. I am sure with time people will forget. D'arcy is proof of that............

Oh wait on second thought.... lol

Yes, in those days I was trying to escape by drinking myself to death. I'm sure you and many others noticed. It is why I no longer partake in alcohol refreshments. Coka cola and coffee are my choice now. We as humans are never given total knowledge of who everyone is. If I didn't remember you when you checked in I'm sorry but if you did mention that you were a member of said group, I did honor the discount once I realized who you were did I not? Right?

Our cash machine was US based. One of very few in Sosua at that time and as such it did not charge you an international transaction fee. We took the liberty to split that fee with you. You would have paid more at any other bank based ATM in Sosua but splitting that fee with us actually saved you money, whether you realized it or not. It's only business sir.

I have NEVER placed anybody in more expensive accommodations and charged them more. In times, sure we are over sold but if you got an apartment over a room at Rocky's I can guarantee you that you paid the same rate you would have paid at Rocky's and got the upgrade for free. I have done that with our guests at least a 100 times and have never ever had a complaint about upgraded accommodations for the same price as quoted. When you make a reservation with us it is cast in stone and only you can change it. Free upgrades are part of the business and keeping people happy is what Milka and I do.

As for CMP, were you there? I was but I sure don't remember you being there therefore your knowledge of the incident is heresy and third party. Best not go there unless you were actually there which I know for a fact, you weren't.

Nough said.

Take care,

Rick
 

Luperon

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Having met marco and deeply miss his postings, i wish him peace in the afterlife.

Never met Rick that I recall but my advice is...any publicity is good publicity.


Play it up. Change the menu to have a few specials..

Million dollar ribs...only 800 pesos (will repay you if not satisfied)

Maybe a weekly social event. Call it Saints and Sinners. "Drinks prices are a steal."

Play the same movie every
week.....

I am telling you. Make lemonade!


If you are truly changed and remorseful i wish you will.
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