A lot of businesses closed in Sosua

windeguy

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So Brito says he will step up the game against the world's oldest profession. He has closed some before and deported residents.

Brito has previously threatened to arrest Johns. He could close all the bars that allow hookers inside under anti-pimping laws. And he could of course just declare prostitution illegal, kind of like how Obama does things in the US.

Could be interesting.
 

ctrob

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The ultimate goal is to condo Sosua beach.....

Condos on private property adjacent to Sosua Beach. Nothing wrong with that. And it will actually bring in families - both owners and renters. Even better, yes?
And it'll bring some jobs.
 

windeguy

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On private property adjacent to Sosua Beach. Nothing wrong with that. And it will actually bring in families - both owners and renters.. Even better, yes?

And of course closing off access from land to Sosua beach to those who don't own there. Don't think that cannot happen.
 

ctrob

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And of course closing off access from land to Sosua beach to those who don't own there. Don't think that cannot happen.

I know it can. But I'm hoping that it won't. If it does, the gov't will have failed miserably once again and I'll be the first to condemn.
 

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Condos on private property adjacent to Sosua Beach. Nothing wrong with that. And it will actually bring in families - both owners and renters. Even better, yes?
And it'll bring some jobs.

Do you really think they will allow public access if condos are built on the beach? If they allowed access I would flabbergasted.
 

ctrob

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Do you really think they will allow public access if condos are built on the beach?

In the case of Sosua Beach, yes, I do. You have easy access from both ends, that access is on the public right-of-way. So those will remain open. And if I remember correctly, the middle entrance was in the artists rendition of the beach plan.

Can you imagine the first Sunday that a bus pulls up and people can't enter at playa media because it's blocked off? And more busses and beachgoers show up? You'd have a mini-riot and the public would prevail. I think it remains open.
 

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In the case of Sosua Beach, yes, I do. You have easy access from both ends, that access is on the public right-of-way. So those will remain open. And if I remember correctly, the middle entrance was in the artists rendition of the beach plan.

Can you imagine the first Sunday that a bus pulls up and people can't enter at playa media because it's blocked off? And more busses and beachgoers show up? You'd have a mini-riot and the public would prevail. I think it remains open.

As was mentioned above, big money is what rules in the DR. If condos in the 500K range and up are ever built on Sosua beach do you think that the condo owners will not do everything in their power to block all access by land to Sosua beach for those not owning condos? I would expect that to happen.

Where there any public right of ways to the beach in Punta Cana that have disappeared over the past several years? Or the same to other small beaches right in Sosua? Seems I recall hearing about both of those situations already.
 
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By now, those in Sosua and Cabarete should know that ppl in $500K condos don't spend much more than ppl in $50K condos, esp on Pedro Clisante.

Cabarete had its boom and bust in real estate. The prices in Sosua haven't attracted as much speculation, esp with a meddling mayor.
 

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If condos in the 500K range and up are ever built on Sosua beach

Everyone who has 500k to spend on a Caribbean vacation condo and then decides to do that here in Sosua, should be subjected to a mandatory a Psych eval.

500k buys you a nice condo at much better places, beaches and weather.
 
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All your information is vague and meaningless. I can also tell you that there will be a WW3, but I don't know when but it will happen at some point....just like the street closing again and cleaning up the putas.

Your WW3 analogy is weak and foolish.

When I post that PC will be closed again it's because the closing is IMMINENT, not because it is something that will PROBABLY happen far off in the future.

I was a huge advocate of having the street closed and when it reopened I was told that once all the sidewalks were redone and the street decorated to Palm Beach standards, that the street would reopen. However, it goes deeper than that with the politicians wanting it open. 7 of them voted to reopen the street after having 30 people sign a petition.

You are absolutely correct, seven of them voted to reopen the street, and this very same issue will again come before seven new town council members. And just so that we are crystal clear, here they are:

Radhames Guzman (PLD/PRD)
Lilian Ceballos (PLD/PRD)
Oscar Luis Gomez (PLD/PRD)
Juan Arismendy Medina (PRSC)
Aquilina Medina (PRSC)
Yinette Vallejo (PRSC)
Fabio Ramon Garcia (PRM)

These are the seven new town council members who will be voting on the issues now, along with Vice Mayor Gerardo Cespedes and Mayor Ilana Neumann. Being a business owner in Sos?a perhaps you should get to know them. I know most of them personally and several for many years. I'll give you a head start.

Radhames Guzman is an attorney who lives and has an office in Sos?a. He is one of Ilana Neumann's strongest supporters and close friend. His office is not far from the center of PC and would certainly welcome any input from business owners in Sos?a.

Oscar Luis Gomez or "Lupy" as he is know to his friends, is the head of the "cuerpo de bomberos" and is in charge of coordinating the demolition of "La Roca" restaurant. He lives in Los Charamicos and is more than happy to speak to anyone regarding his duties. He was the person who informed me about the planned demolition.

Arismendy Medina who works closely with the "Samaritan Foundation" constructing housing for some of Sos?a's less fortunate residents in Maranatha, Bella Vista, Villa Manuel, Villa Betania, etc. is a former mayor of Sos?a and is very approachable.

Aquilina Mediina, a former candidate for mayor herself in 2010, lives in La Union and was actively involved in the construction of the new park and basketball court at the entrance to La Union. She has advocated for several projects in La Union and VIlla Liberaci?n and can be found most days working right there.

Yinette Vallejo, the daughter of Dr. Tito Sierra who is an attorney and former regidor of Sos?a, is also an attorney focusing on immigration law. She just opened her office on the second floor of Sunset Plaza, practically on top of the old D'Latin Drink disco and less than 25 meters from your restaurant. I've know her since she was a small child and her family for many years. Perhaps you should walk over to her office and introduce yourself.

Fabio Garcia's television program "Detras del Rumor" is quite famous here on the north coast, you can communicate with him just about anytime directly through his "Detras del Rumor" website or his facebook pages.

These are the people who will be making many of the decisions here in Sos?a starting August 16. I suggest meeting at least a few of them.

Everything you are reporting has happened in the past with no real impact on Sosua. It's a cycle. Major Neuman did the same thing when she was elected the first time around. She is a "yes" person and does not stand up to her superiors in Santo Domingo.

I have no idea what you are referring to that I have "reported has happened in the past with no real impact on Sos?a". Maybe you could be more specific (less vague).

You state that "mayor Neumann did the same thing when she was elected the first time around"
She hasn't done ANYTHING yet. Her new term officially starts in about a month on August 16, give her a chance

In her first term she was not from the same political party as the government in charge in Santo Domingo, she was PRD they were PLD, her "hands were tied." Now things are different. There are also directives that come directly from Santo Domingo that she neither has any advance knowledge of or control over. Your opinion of her as a "yes person" is just that, your opinion, perhaps you could share what you base it on.

So please don't try to impress anybody by implying that you have inside information.

We are both foreigners in Sos?a and perhaps have been here for about the same amount of time. Apparently I have taken better advantage of my time here, getting to personally know most of the people involved in local politics and most of the owners of the larger and more successful foreign owned businesses as well as most of the local business owners and workers.

My many years working closely with these people and gaining their trust, respect and friendship has afforded me the opportunity to understand and participate with them on a level that most people simply cannot.

So when I post that

I have a greater knowledge and understanding of what actually goes on here than YOU can possibly fathom.

It is for one reason,

I DO.

I'm not trying to impress anyone.
 

windeguy

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By now, those in Sosua and Cabarete should know that ppl in $500K condos don't spend much more than ppl in $50K condos, esp on Pedro Clisante.

Cabarete had its boom and bust in real estate. The prices in Sosua haven't attracted as much speculation, esp with a meddling mayor.


The big money made is in the sale of the condo. The builders could then care less how much the condo owners spend after they buy the condos.
 
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Or if the condo is still standing in six months, for that matter.. only so many idiots out there with a half million to blow on a condo they're going to use for a few weeks each year and lots of condos out there.
 

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Unless they are going to educate those prostitutes over night and give them (and their chulos)
jobs that average between 10,000 to 15,000 pesos a week, they may want to think before acting...
If crime goes up people will leave or just opt for places that are much safer like the AI's around
Punta Cana. Most of the small businesses in and around Sosua (Los Charamicos, Sosua Abajo, Maranata)
depend heavily on the sex tourist dollars.

Although I tend to agree too much of anything is a bad thing (in this case prostitutes) they
can't just turn the lights out, these women, most of whom have at least two kids, are often the
only parent supporting their children. We are talking about a lot of hungry mouths to feed. I'm
neither for or against prostitution but I am against kids not having food in their stomach or
a roof over their heads so I hope they can come up with a plan b for anyone who's income
is effected by these new changes.
 
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CristoRey

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Oscar Luis Gomez or "Lupy" as he is know to his friends, is the head of the "cuerpo de bomberos" and is in charge of
coordinating the demolition of "La Roca" restaurant. He lives in Los Charamicos and is more than happy to speak to anyone
regarding his duties.

100% agreed. I have spoken with him a few times in the past, good guy.
 

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Unless they are going to educate those prostitutes over night and give them (and their chulos)
jobs that average between 10,000 to 15,000 pesos a week, they may want to think before acting...
If crime goes up people will leave or just opt for places that are much safer like the AI's around
Punta Cana. Most of the small businesses in and around Sosua (Los Charamicos, Sosua Abajo, Maranata)
depend heavily on the sex tourist dollars.

Although I tend to agree too much of anything is a bad thing (in this case prostitutes) they
can't just turn the lights out, these women, most of whom have at least two kids, are often the
only parent supporting their children. We are talking about a lot of hungry mouths to feed. I'm
neither for or against prostitution but I am against kids not having food in their stomach or
a roof over their heads so I hope they can come up with a plan b for anyone who's income
is effected by these new changes.

Why they dont realize prostitution is a result of povery and lack od education. The country has not effectively focused (cared) about either. So to just clean it up just moved the problem elsewhere and creates more crime. This will not work. They better be prepared to allocate some tax dollars to build a Whorephanage to house them!
 

windeguy

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Unless they are going to educate those prostitutes over night and give them (and their chulos)
jobs that average between 10,000 to 15,000 pesos a week, they may want to think before acting...
If crime goes up people will leave or just opt for places that are much safer like the AI's around
Punta Cana. Most of the small businesses in and around Sosua (Los Charamicos, Sosua Abajo, Maranata)
depend heavily on the sex tourist dollars.

Although I tend to agree too much of anything is a bad thing (in this case prostitutes) they
can't just turn the lights out, these women, most of whom have at least two kids, are often the
only parent supporting their children. We are talking about a lot of hungry mouths to feed. I'm
neither for or against prostitution but I am against kids not having food in their stomach or
a roof over their heads so I hope they can come up with a plan b for anyone who's income
is effected by these new changes.

The government has been talking about a crackdown on crack whores for a long time. Perhaps this will be "the time" something happens. I still suspect that arresting the Johns will go furthest in reducing that profession's chances. How many gringos will want to spend even one night in a DR jail?

As for people going to Punta Cana instead, please read the news. The single most important, and by far and away THE most important reason, for the reduction in north coast tourism is Punta Cana.
 

CristoRey

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The government has been talking about a crackdown on crack whores for a long time.

I didn't realize they were all just a bunch of crack whores, after all, what the
hell do I know? :cheeky::cheeky::cheeky: