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A lot of businesses closed in Sosua
You know, the mayor might be a genius after all; you get rid of the prositities, that takes care of the thugs/white and black coming from ny, Chicago, Miami. The rest will take care of itself.
I agree - an owner should have the right to do what he wants with his property and, if TPTB will allow condos there, then he should be allowed to buid them if that's what he wants. Also, it will provide some temporary construction jobs, but I think "hundreds of permanent jobs" is a stretch. It really depends on just how many condos could be put there(?), but any number of permanent jobs is welcome.
My point was, I don't see how that will help tourism in Sosua as suggested. In fact, quite the opposite. If that beach is covered with condos, just what will Sosua than have to offer to tourists? And if fewer tourists come, what will happen to all the hotels, restaurants, clubs, tour operators, etc. that are struggling now and depend on tourist dollars?
I just think if that beach goes, Sosua is finished as a tourist town.
I think it all depends on just how many mongers are dissuaded from coming down due to the early closing hours(?).
Beaches are public.... access must be granted.... the gov't watches that carefully
A beach closure shouldn't be in the cards.
A beach closure shouldn't be in the cards.
If someone owns all of the land around a particular beach, there is no law in the DR forcing the land owner to allow people access to the beach. We have discussed this point a lot in other threads where the public can no longer access certain beaches.
He who controls access controls the beach. Maybe it will be 200 pesos each for access to the Beach ?
Yeah build the condos which will ruin the beach and Sosua will dry up faster than an paint on a cement block wall.
I have seen it go hand in hand with bldg approvals....
Bigger beaches like this surely have contiguous properties that provide access.
I sincerely doubt this beach will be allowed to go private...... just my thinking
I hope it does not become private, but I have no idea who actually owns all of the as yet undeveloped land behind and at both ends of Sosua beach. Someone certainly knows the answer to this.
I was just as dismayed as you with the changes they made to Playa Grande beach. Haven't been back since. The difference is, at least the beach is still there. If they build condos on the beach in Sosua, the beach will effectively be lost to the public - unless maybe they just build a group of condos at one end(?).
Yes I do agree - I used to love Playa Grande - It was quaint, not an asphalt drive and parking lot. You used to park under the palms not in the blazing sun.
There were vendors who were service minded not like the arrogant vendors now.
And you sat among the palms there was even some grass and I didn't have to look into the hotel on the beach and the waiters in white uniforms like some antebellum experience .
It was natural and felt like you had a Paradise undiscovered.
The rough waves are still there and the sand but the charm left years ago and it's not worth the long drive now.
Maybe it's time to look for the last unspoiled area outside of DR.
Money corrupts everything eventually.
Actually there are rules regarding beach access that are supposed to be applied when a developer of a sizable project along the beach applies for a permit. But we had in case in Cabarete with Punta Goleta where they apparently managed to close a public beach access that had been there for years by breaking the property into smaller units to stay under the size over which a public beach access must be provided through the private property. Just a couple of months ago a Senator proposed legislation to strengthen the requirements for public beach access. Of course the powerful National Association of Hotels and Restaurants (ASONAHORES) lobbied hard against it and it looks like the initiative died.
I agree with Rustxko
“As for Sosua beach, if it turns into Condos, then Sosua will never see me again. I know I'm just one tourist, but I like the lawless disorganized chaos. It feels like a foreign experience.”
My solution....
The City of Sosua passes a by-law to protect the Beach Vendors in a “World Heritage” kind of way.
They protect the Beach and a 100meters (150m?) back, from any building that would take away from the unique “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture”.
The City would allow the land behind the Protected Zone and up to the Hwy to be built in Multi-Story Residential, and make the developer extend their new Water-Sewer-Evectrical upgrades to the Vendors in front of them.
If needed, the City buys a single Beach Vendor, tears it down to create a single Public (Condo) Entrances to the Beach.
There is room for all of us.
It would be Tourist Suicide to wipe out the vendors and replace them with just Condos.
The south end of the Beach has buffs behind it. They could start building the Condos up there. They would have a great view and be close to Sousa's best attraction..... The Sosua Beach Vendors.
Just to be sure, the developer must complete the Water-Sewer-Electrical upgrades before starting his new building.
“As for Sosua beach, if it turns into Condos, then Sosua will never see me again. I know I'm just one tourist, but I like the lawless disorganized chaos. It feels like a foreign experience.”
My solution....
The City of Sosua passes a by-law to protect the Beach Vendors in a “World Heritage” kind of way.
They protect the Beach and a 100meters (150m?) back, from any building that would take away from the unique “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture”.
The City would allow the land behind the Protected Zone and up to the Hwy to be built in Multi-Story Residential, and make the developer extend their new Water-Sewer-Evectrical upgrades to the Vendors in front of them.
If needed, the City buys a single Beach Vendor, tears it down to create a single Public (Condo) Entrances to the Beach.
There is room for all of us.
It would be Tourist Suicide to wipe out the vendors and replace them with just Condos.
The south end of the Beach has buffs behind it. They could start building the Condos up there. They would have a great view and be close to Sousa's best attraction..... The Sosua Beach Vendors.
Just to be sure, the developer must complete the Water-Sewer-Electrical upgrades before starting his new building.
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That might work. The developers won't be able to get the big bucks if the condos are behind the kiosks, but..........
A web translation of an earlier post in relation to media story:
Representatives of the Asociaci?n de Desarrollo de Cabarete (ADECA), Association of hotels and restaurants Sosua-Cabarete (Ashoresoca) and the Association for the sustainable development of Sos?a (ADSS) listed in a document delivered last May 24 President Danilo Medina the five priority projects for the development of both communities.
Among these works are cited the construction of the project of vendors on the beach of this village square; the construction of the public hospital to Sosua and Cabarete. the renovation of the Centre of the tourist district of Cabarete, and the completion of the plant of treatment of residual waters to both poles.
That reads that something better is planned for beach vendors rather than eliminate them.....with proper sanitation
I remember that discussion.
My problem with that proposal was that they would build a new building (at the worst end of the beach) and wreck all the “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture”.
The Condos would get the rest of the (prime) Beach for them selves (surprise-surprise).
Let's compromise.
Please.... leave the “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture” intact. It looks best when it is a little run down and like a “like a foreign experience”.
My problem with that proposal was that they would build a new building (at the worst end of the beach) and wreck all the “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture”.
The Condos would get the rest of the (prime) Beach for them selves (surprise-surprise).
Let's compromise.
Please.... leave the “Sosua Beach Vendor Culture” intact. It looks best when it is a little run down and like a “like a foreign experience”.
There has already been a plan to remove the beach vendors. Well before the current set of discussions on Sosua.
I think you misread what it 'reads', and I believe that's the intent...
A bit late on my post here, as aname4me and windeguy has stated:
One of the 'plans' as I recall, is to remove all the vendors and have a small mall at the entrance. I've also heard about cutting down the trees there and adding palms, like they did on Pedro Clisante. :bored:
My opinion? Leave the beach the way it is.
1. I like the vendors.
2. I like the trees.
3. I like the quiet days.
4. I like the busy days.
5. I like the sunny days.
6. I like the rainy days.
Bring back some trash bins as there used to be, and have demonstration videos on how to use them is about my only request.
Yes there are a lot of 'I's in the above list, but I don't think I'm alone.
If I wanted Miami, I would go to Miami.
I like Puerto Plata, for Puerto Plata.
I like Cabarete, for Cabarete.
I like Sos?a... as it is.