US Consulate wants access to biometric and facial ID data

[franco1111]

If you have nothing to hide... is like, I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV...totally irrelevant to the argument and the situation when these sayings are most often used.

MY info, MY data, MY DNA, MY iris scan, MY bank balance, MY retailer of choice, MY movements in a free society should remain mine. Whether I choose to share them with MY Govt. or some other Govt or entity, should be MY choice.

If entry into the USA requires the submission of MY biometric data, I can choose to go or not. If travel to the DR requires such data and I choose to submit it, this should not automatically be seen as MY tactic permission for the DR use my data for purposes other than that for which it was collected. Unless specifically notified at the time I voluntarily give MY data that it will be given to other parties, it cannot be said that I have given my informed consent to do so. I may have in the past made deliberate decisions not to travel to the USA because I do not want that country to have my biometric data. To get access to it via a back door route negates my free choice, diminishes my freedom and tramples all over my rights as the owner of the data.

If subsequently asked if I agree to MY data being used for a purpose other than what I have previously agreed to, there must be an option for me to decline such a request without penalty.

Just MY opinion on the ownership of MY face, MY fingerprints, MY eyes.

I think you have residency. I remember when I first applied for and/or got my residency here, I signed something that agrees to do, and not to do, certain things. The only one I remember is that I agreed not to participate in insurrections in the DR. I only saw that document once and I have not seen it since in two renewals. It could be that I also agreed that the JCE can share my information. It would be an interesting exercise to find out what we did agree to : ) It doesn't matter much to me, I try to tell the truth always - in regards to my coming and going to and from US and DR. Much easier.

 

[bob saunders]

Unless you have something to hide what harm will it do. We live in a different world and terrorism is part of it. Anything we can do to minimize this is a positive

I would like to believe that as well, however there are many people in government, regardless of country that are up to no good. Will this minimize terrorism , I doubt it. It might slow down illegal immigration and re-entry of some deported criminals.Hard to have faith in a government that gave citizenship to over a thousand people already on the list to deport.

 

[CristoRey]

The DR shouldn't be giving data collected about someone to anyone else unless they
have secured permission to do so.

My point exactly.
Not Alexa.. however the current time in Mongolia is 1:00am.

 

[CristoRey]

Take this for what it is worth;
My wife said that Rosario was being pressured by the US government to give birth certificates and citizenship to Haitians. Rosario told them to mind their own business and they will do what they want in the DR. So the US cancelled his visa. Just rumor, I have found nothing to substantiate that.

Sound plausable. Old Uncle Sam has been known to twist people?s arms
sometimes. He?s also been known to dole out a little punishment to all
of those who fail to comply with his demands.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

Take this for what it is worth;
My wife said that Rosario was being pressured by the US government to give birth certificates and citizenship to Haitians. Rosario told them to mind their own business and they will do what they want in the DR. So the US cancelled his visa. Just rumor, I have found nothing to substantiate that.

Is your wife Dominican?

 

[Timotero]

?............................Hard to have faith in a government that gave citizenship to over a thousand people already on the list to deport.

Ah, but the difference is, that government admitted it made a mistake (hey, we all do on occasion, right?) and then took steps to correct that mistake (admittedly a BIG one!).
Contrast that with the "no es mi culpa" mentality you occasionally (maybe 98% of the time) come across here. Lol!

 

[bob saunders]

Ah, but the difference is, that government admitted it made a mistake (hey, we all do on occasion, right?) and then took steps to correct that mistake (admittedly a BIG one!).
Contrast that with the "no es mi culpa" mentality you occasionally (maybe 98% of the time) come across here. Lol!

They aren't really any different, they deny, deny...etc, then blame on a computer problem or some lower level personnel.

 

[PICHARDO]

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-c...TCA-Agreement-DominicanRepublic-9-15-2016.pdf

 

[PICHARDO]

This is all they want
To extend the US border as much as possible in terms of identifying the native population of countries like the DR.

 

[Meemselle]

And I want "world peace."

Errmmm.....I think you want "whirrled peas."

 

[Meemselle]

Bfd? Not.

When I visited here the first time, over 30 years ago, you could do it on a drivers' license. I didn't have one. I lived in NYC. But I had a passport.

Oy. I have something so provocative to say. But I won't.

 

[bob saunders]

When I visited here the first time, over 30 years ago, you could do it on a drivers' license. I didn't have one. I lived in NYC. But I had a passport.

Oy. I have something so provocative to say. But I won't.

Much easier to give a dislike without comment.

 

[reilleyp]

Is your wife Dominican?

She is Dominican, but has no inside information. She was just telling me the rumor on the street.

I just saw this. Maybe one of those cases of the US saying "Do as I say, not as I do" They were all for letting in the Haitians until they started protesting the Clintons and their lack of progress and distribution of earthquake donations. Now it looks like the Haitians will pay for their criticisms. In the article, note how it says "much improved conditions in Haiti since the earthquake." Can anyone corroborate that?

"The U.S. Department of Homeland and Security has a warning to undocumented Haitians en route to its southwestern border with Mexico ? turn around. Otherwise, you will be deported back to Haiti.

After a six-year moratorium on deportations to the earthquake-scarred country, the Obama administration is resuming them, citing ?improved conditions in Haiti? since the devastating Jan. 12, 2010, earthquake and ?a significant increase in Haitians arriving at the Southwest border in San Diego, Calif.?



?The United States has recently witnessed a sharp increase in the number of Haitian nationals taking dangerous smuggling routes to apply for admission to our country in the San Diego, Calif., area without advance authorization,? said an official with DHS, which announced the policy shift Thursday.

In fiscal year 2015, the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol only apprehended 339 Haitians at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, the world?s busiest border crossing, officials said. But that number jumped sharply from Oct. 1, 2015, to Sept. 4, with officials processing more than 5,000 Haitians at the California entry point, overwhelming the facility, which is undergoing construction.

?Effective immediately, enforcement decisions with respect to Haitian nationals should be consistent with the practice regarding other nationalities,? Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said.




At the top of the deportation list are those apprehended at the U.S. borders or ports of entry that do not possess a credible fear of persecution or torture; convicted felons and those convicted of significant or multiple misdemeanors; and an estimated 2,000 Haitians with a final order of deportation already issued by a U.S. immigration judge.

Haitian nationals currently covered by Temporary Protected Status, an immigration benefit granted to tens of thousands a day after the earthquake, are not affected by the policy change. But the policy change will affect as many as 40,000 Haitiansin transit through other Central and South American nations from Brazil to the U.S.-Mexico border.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nat...cas/haiti/article103373227.html#storylink=cpy